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America: The Real History

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posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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One thing that needs to be pointed out is that in a free society we get to see warts and all.

For the most part that is.

Our friends blush at some of the history and our enemies smear us with some of our history.

The history of the not so free world is not up for grabs in the same way.

Now I will finish reading the thread.


(PS)

Above said in a London Banker Accent....

[edit on 8-4-2010 by whiteraven]



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by whiteraven
One thing that needs to be pointed out is that in a free society we get to see warts and all.

For the most part that is.

Our friends blush at some of the history and our enemies smear us with some of our history.

The history of the not so free world is not up for grabs in the same way.

Now I will finish reading the thread.


(PS)

Above said in a London Banker Accent....

[edit on 8-4-2010 by whiteraven]


Well, the point of the thread is to show that we're not as free as we think we are. The system is based on debt slavery as opposed to chattel slavery, which was abolished after the Civil War. The old method of chattel slavery became too expensive, dangerous, and impossible to maintain. It takes a lot to feed, house, keep happy and healthy, defend yourself against uprisings,etc., when dealing with chattel. The new system, based on debt slavery is much more sinister by being secret system that the slaves aren't even fully aware of. You can even make your debt slaves believe they are free, while happily working off their debts. You don't have to take care of them, and you don't have to fear their uprising.




"Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless... the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is [now] while our rulers are honest, and ourselves united. From the conclusion of this war we shall be going downhill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion."-- Thomas Jefferson

"...And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, and give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have not time to think, no means of calling the mismanager's to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers..." (Thomas Jefferson) THE MAKING OF AMERICA, p. 395



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 10:40 PM
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How many wars has America been dragged kicking and screaming into since the Civil War? WWI was a completely European confilct that Americans had no business getting involved in, but not only did we get involved (after the staged sinking of the Lusatania), but ended up paying for most of the tab.

WWII? Another European/Asian conflct that really didn't involve us, until the staged Pearl Harbor event. FDR tried everything to bring us into the war, while pretending to be against it in public. The famed aviator Charles Lindberg was made public enemy number one by FDR for his very public stance against American involvement in the war. That's one reason Lindberg decided to leave the US was because he saw it for what it really was.

You can go right down the line and every major conflict that America involved themselves in was for the interests and preservation of the Crown jewels.

Korea: set up the whole Cold War ficade.

Vietnam: secured the Golden Triangle drug trade for the Crown (the surgar, opium, cocain, slave trades, etc., have all been major operations for the Crown.)

Several small conflicts in the 80's, securing resources and the Panama Canal in Central and South America for the Crown.

Iraq: securing Middle East oil resources.... not for Americans obviously, but for the Crown, which then proceeded to jack up the price.

Afghanistan: securing the opium trade.

Can anyone, when you give it some REAL thought, think of any major conflict that we've been involved in over the past hundred years, that was actually fought for American interests? Having trouble? That's because we were fighting them for our foreign credit masters.



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posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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A most astounding revelation has unearthed itself, documenting everything that I discuss here. A report (dated 1919) that claims to be written by Col. Edward Mendel House, then British banking handler and confidante of President Woodrow Wilson who was instrumental in getting the Federal Reserve Act passed, details the true reasons for WWI and the push for a League of Nations under President Wilson. This chilling document purports to be a progress report written to our financial masters in Great Britain, thus detailing their "thought control" efforts against the American dullards that are so easily manipulated. According to this report, America is being prepared for "the peaceful return of the American Colonies to the dominion of the Crown." Without the slightest reservation, it is laid out clearly how agents of the "Crown" have been placed in positions of authority throughout the country with the express purpose of hoodwinking the American people into complying as serfs to their "Crown" masters. Of course, this process, as I have outlined on this site, has been going on since the Declaration of Independence, but its culmination came under Wilson, the Federal Reserve Act, WWI, and WWII.

Amazingly, this report identifies the key components of "Crown" control in this country, which are financial, educational, governmental, and resource-based oil. J.P. Morgan and Company are identified as key financial officers for the "Crown." It details how the oil industry is conrolled by them, and how the League of Nations (what later became the United Nations) was devised in order to extend "Imperial" control over the world, and how the United States' admission would bring them, unwittingly into the "empire."

This report, or letter, was presented to the House of Representatives by Congressman Thorkelson of Montana, and is published in the Congressional Record of October 13, 1919, p. 598-604 inclusive. Its authenticity was discussed by members of the House and an effort was made to strike it from the Record, which failed. See Congressional Record, October 11, 1939, p.714 et seq.; also of September 9, 1940, p.17835; and September 11, 1940, p.18311.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 09:00 AM
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A point that I missed earlier... There is another zone in this world that is much like Washington D.C., and "The City" the financial center and legal arm of the Crown that is located within the city of London. Both of these place are not a part of the countries from which they originate, but are seperate domeciles and corporate entities within a country. The other zone is called the Vatican, which is a city state within the country of Italy. Are you seeing a pattern here. Note that all three of these places have many of the same occult symbols scattered throughout, each has an obelisk (a phalic symbol) prominently placed. Each has shrines for the worship of Virgo (the goddess Isis, virgin Mary, etc.)

This thread is an excellent resource on this subject.

It is explained very well, the nature of these three prime locations of power in the world. The Vatican is the religious center, "The City" is the Financial and legal center, while Washington D.C. is the military arm of worldwide power racket. This is why America has been made to fight the wars for Crown all over the world.

Also note that these places are the most surveiled places on the planet. There si more security and more cameras per capita in these three locations than anywhere else in the world. You cann't viisit one of these places without Big Brother knowing everything that you do.

[edit on 13-4-2010 by HothSnake]



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Very good post HothSnake star & flag. I have been researching this a lot as well to and was going to post a thread but never got the time to type it all out but you did better than I would in any case. But your absolutely right on all this and that is why I think everyone living in USA needs to claimSovereignty because in my opinion that is the way to beat them. The government is already far to corrupt and people need to realize that it cant be changed by simply "electing the right people" because it will never happen. An armed revolution isn't even necessary if you could get 25% of the population to become sovereigns could you imagine what that would do to their little game of fraud. I think this is something that needs to be much more heavily researched here on ats. Good job on spreading the word.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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I agree, the word needs to be spread, and Americans need to become more aware of their serfdom. Essentially, they have no property rights, and their God-given Rights under the Constition are a pretended fiction. Unfortunately, we are brain washed from a very early age, from government schools, the ignorance of our parents, official culture, media etc., to buy into the "freedom and liberty" fiction, and we don't realize how much of a fraud it is until we have to go to traffic court or find ourselves trapped in the "legal" system. This secret system of equity chancery contracts is designed in such a way that most of us never realize it until it is too late, and even when we do realize it, we often refuse to believe it.

There is a way out that requires taking back one's individual sovereignty, but in order to do this, one has to educate themselves as to the nature of the system. This requires waking up first, but far too many are trapped and don't realize it.



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