IODINE why you need it, and why you have been lied to.

CALM DOWN

Unless you have direct and extensive experience with iodine, trying both small and large amounts extensively, then I must assume you know NOTHING.

Also, it's good to make sure everyone is cautious to take internet advice, but stop spamming "what are your credentials!?" like a conventional doctor who prescribes placebo medicine is really going to do better than the average enthusiast. Credentials mean nothing in the long run.

Do your research, cite your sources, make a discussion. But deflate your ego's and stop pointing fingers; some people here want to sift through all the "right & wrongs," and make an educated theory without all the emotional infused arguing and self righteousness.

I'm seriously irritated.

[edit on 9-4-2010 by Scarcer]

Iodine takes the fluoride and metals out of your system. That's why iodine is used to protect from radioactivity. But it's hard to get because the medical ptb have made it illegal.

Err... No. Iodine is used to displace radioactive Iodine-131 NOT to remove metals or fluoride. Perhaps there is an Iodine deficiency, but I hope people don't go out and take too much. Be careful...

edit: sorry I'm talking about why Iodine supplements given out specifically in the event of radiological releases.

[edit on 9/4/2010 by C0bzz]

If you live by a coastal area local grass fed dairy products and bee pollen are great sources of iodine

reply to post by Nightflower


Here is a link to a reliable source about the benefits of Iodine, I am a strong believer in natural remedies and holistic approach, the big pharma actually kill more people that natural medicine does a year and laws hold then unaccountable.

You you are not by any means forcing anybody in this forum to use anything they don't want those bashing you will bash anything that is posted just for the hell of it.

Something I have learn in my years in this public forum.

www.nutritional-supplement-educational-centre.com...

Iodine been a trace mineral needed by the body is becoming a problem along with all trace minerals that in our diet 30 years ago was not problem at all todays diet is full off preservatives additives and over processed food, our soils are depleted of minerals our crops are tampered with and most of our vegetables and fruits no longer provide for our bodies the necessary nutrients we need.

Blame it on our manufactures and producers.

Body needs Minerals more than anything else if we have to arrest the natural aging process and stay young for a very long time. Minerals act as catalysts for metabolic reactions and biological functions within the body cells and are required for the assimilation of all vitamins. The aging process involves the action of highly reactive free radicals which interact with other cellular compounds and produce oxidative damages. This eventually kills cells, shrinks tissues and impairs the immune function of the organism.

In America we are living longer but not necessarily healthy and our quality of life has declined, big pharma is making possible that we stay longer hook to pharmaceutical drugs to survive, but is not many people that can say that in their old age they are healthy and living free of any manufactured medications, if you find one is somebody that should be cherished.

How deficient are Americans in minerals?

www.drpernell.com...

I have done panels to find out the deficiencies in minerals I have and the results has been incredible, any doctor office can do the blood panel as a routine check up.

From potassium to creatin to anything I came deficient in more than one mineral.

Symptoms that make me do the panel, were muscle cramps, fatigue and foggy mind



[edit on 9-4-2010 by marg6043]

Hmmm....

Iodine and Fluorine are both halogens.

It is known for 100 years that Fluorine is an antagonist to Iodine.

During a period of time, fluorine was used in Europe to treat hyperthyroidism.

In some conditions, fluorine enhances iodine, but in the vast majority of times, fluorine acts as an inhibitor of iodine.

Here is an old study from 1958 where fluorine is used to treat hyperthyroidism.

From 15 patients, 6 were successfully treated. 33% of effectiveness.

EFFECT OF FLUORINE ON THYROIDAL IODINE METABOLISM IN HYPERTHYROIDISM
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism Vol. 18, No. 10 1102-1110

Here is an almost full list of studies on this, beginning from 1854.

Don't be put off by the source though, it cites peer reviewed journals... "Parents of Fluoride Poisoned Children".

Including German studies between 1920 and 1940, published in peer reviewed journals from the European "Thieme Verlag", publisher of medical textbooks and Atlases.

I have been able to obtain the full text of some studies not available there.

If someone is curious to read some of them I can upload the pdf.

History of the Fluoride/Iodine Antagonism

[edit on 9-4-2010 by jjjtir]

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by Nightflower

 

Thanks for the thread Nightflower.

Have you noticed any significant health gains from using this stuff?

Isn't Lugol solution, the stuff you give to aquarium fish?

Is the stuff marketed at fish owners, the same stuff sold in health food shops (at 3-4 times the price)?

Cheers.

Yes, my appetite has increased and i stay warm longer. I have more energy. My mind is more clear. I had acne since my teens and nothing ever really worked, now it's pretty much gone. My skin is overall softer and some scars are less visible. My skin seems to hold moisture better, i used to have flaky spots, now none anywhere. That's about all i can think right now.

I did read that some use lugol's for their fish, but im not sure if it's the same. It should be listed on the bottle what's in it. Usual formula for Lugol's is 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) mixed with 85 ml distilled water.

It's possible that some sell it overpriced in health food shops.

Geez, what have i started here .

If anyone is unsure about taking iodine, ask your doctor to monitor you.

And educate yourself, i put the links in there for a reason.

Have a nice day/night everyone.

Originally posted by Nightflower
Geez, what have i started here

.

Its ok..... the old saying "your not taking flak if your not over target" seems to ring true. Great post Nightflower.

BTW I'm taking 8mg potassium iodide per day. I had my thyroid checked prior to this. I have also noticed an increase in energy.

I would still recommend people work with their physician, and have their thyroid functions tested prior to taking this as previously pointed out.

Further reading:

Guy Abraham M.D. has offered a $10,000 reward for any doctor who can demonstrate that excess Iodine causes the thyroid to fail in any patient with normal thyroid function.

findarticles.com...

Iodine Supplementation Markedly Increases Urinary Excretion of Fluoride and Bromide (letter), Townsend Letter for Doctors & Patients issue #238, p.105-6



[edit on 9-4-2010 by zzombie]

reply to post by Nightflower


Actually a simple blood panel done at the doctors office will do the job and falls under the routine check.

reply to post by Nightflower


Thanks for that.

Having looked at the 'health food shops' and the aquarium supplies shops, they are both exactly the same thing, except the health food shops, sell it for about 400% more money!

Stick the word 'health' in front of anything, and it at least doubles in price.

I'll have a look around for a bargain.

I could do with more energy, that's for sure.

Cheers.

reply to post by spikey


Yes, there are scammers in the natural sector, no different than some MD's in conventional medicine.

This doesn't invalidate the genuine ones.

These inflated prices by shady characters need to be watched, and other sources sought after.

This is a very interesting read Nightflower, thanks!

I admit I haven't done a lot of research on iodine and its benefits, though the OP and related posts do bring a very interesting cover-up to light.

I have heard some studies done on the health benefits of iodine in a diet. I've talked to my doctor about this and although he isn't too enthusiastic, he admitted not knowing this subject very well. He agreed to monitor me during my intake.

One question I did have is where can you obtain Lugol's solution in the US? (If you don't want to advertise a certain site, a U2U would be nice)

Thanks again Nightflower! S+F!

I only read a few pages so forgive me if this was already posted, and it seems many people have said to be careful as it so I'm probably being a bit redudant anyway, but I just wanted to throw some more information in here (hoping it hasn't already been posted). Iodine is important and necessary, but it is entirely possible to have excess iodine (although very unlikely if you're not supplementing it). Iodine poisoning can be pretty nasty.

So, as some have already said, educate yourself, talk to your doctor. Don't just start talking extra iodine, it can and has caused problems. Here is another excellent source on iodine: Iodine: What is Iodine - Why Iodine?

There is good information there and its pretty long. I would suggest anyone who is planning on adding new iodine supplements to their regimen read that page.

Three grains of crystal or drug iodine can produce iodine poisoning in some individuals; iodine poisoning is characterized by edema of the tongue, mucous membrane collapse, respiratory inflictions, brain intoxication, excessive saliva, throat constriction, albuminuria, anuria and, in extreme cases, death.

As with any supplement, research is key and I definitely would not just all of a sudden start taking 50 mg of iodine without knowing how a smaller amount, like say 300 grams, would affect me.

edit to fix typo in quote.

[edit on 9-4-2010 by Pimpish]

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Nightflower

 

Nightflower.....

Prescriptive medical advice should not be issued flippantly.

May I please ask you to explain your qualifications & experience pertaining to this topic of iodine ingestion?

Many thanks
Maybe...maybe not

I already asked and I don't seem to be getting much in the way of a proper answer.

Originally posted by Nightflower
Geez, what have i started here

.

If anyone is unsure about taking iodine, ask your doctor to monitor you.

And educate yourself, i put the links in there for a reason.

Have a nice day/night everyone.

That's it?!
You give improperly researched medical advice then sum it up with "ask your doctor to monitor you"?!?
You're a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I'm sorry guys, as someone who has hypothyroidism, gets blood panels done every six months and is recovering from an injury that might be helped by certain non-traditional treatments such as iodine I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I know nothing more after reading the sixth page of this thread than I did on the first.

This whole thread is a bit aggravating. I was genuinely curious to see if it's something I might want to consider, but after reading posts claiming that the possible side effects could range from an increased quality of life to a somewhat agonizing death, I think I'm going to ask my doctor (which everyone should do anyway before doing something like this) and stop reading threads on ATS about non-traditional treatments altogether.

No offense, I'm sure everyone's heart is in the right place, but between researching everyone's links and trying to figure out who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't, it seems an exercise in futility.

reply to post by victorprice


I never really thought about a cover-up before. The team of antagonists posting within this thread have now convinced me that there is.

Ad hominem and hegelian thinking are not purposeful techniques utilized by skeptics who argue the point from a minimum level of consciousness. I'm not a cook...no formal training, yet I make incredible meals as I enjoy it. I discuss recipes with other cooks and offer my opinions based on my experiences. But, according to those people, I should be silenced for my lack of credentials.

I'm hoping that everyone sorts this thread out for themselves...for me, there is a team that's been formed to discredit...nothing more nothing less.

reply to post by Legion2112


Your opinion has been given by other people. What is your agenda? There is significant evidence that hypothyroidism is a genetic disease that is more complex than just the iodine levels. It's related to the fact that people with hypothroidism maintain a certain level of iodine and do not flush it away. This is a current area of research, and will point it out, and comment no further. I'm making no claims about this emerging viewpoint, just pointing it out.

You and your fellow cohart posts are much more damaging than what you fear. Please raise your consciousness and stop this.

[edit on 9-4-2010 by ibiubu]

reply to post by ibiubu


Dude what the hell are you talking about? Agenda? I didn't know what iodine did for your body before I read the OP. Not everyone who reads threads on ATS has a degree in whatever field they happen to be centered around. I was reading out of curiosity because I didn't know whether or not it could help - my point was (and still is) that after six pages, I still don't know if it could help me or hurt me; just because I have hypothroidism doesn't mean I know everything about it. I get my blood checked, I take my synthroid and go about my day...

As far as your assertion that I'm somehow in "cahoots" with the others who're suggesting it might not be the best idea in the world, all I can really say is get over yourself - first, trashing your "expertise" isn't that high on my priority list and second, I don't think saying you should ask your doctor before taking a supplement that has six pages behind it of people either claiming it'll improve your life or KILL YOU is exactly disinfo material. Jesus...

reply to post by Matthew Dark


The links in the OP are fine, and its exremely important as we are being deliberately lied to about everything there is that is of any importance. Also, even though its sold over the counter, I can't get any in Canada, they keep telling me its been sold out and not replaced with no time given to when it will appear again, and googling this even adding the words retail and sale, is getting me nothing, except overpriced formulas, and kelp pills. I do take kelp but its not what I want, I'd rather forgo the mercury and deplete uranium only to get small amounts.

This, along with vitamin D, vitamin , and MMS, is pretty good stuff for your health.

There isn't anything "they" sell that shouldnt be banned already due to health hazards including aspirin.

[edit on 9-4-2010 by Unity_99]