Breaking: Earthquake Sumatra, Indonesia Mag 7.8

Amen. Waiting on Jesus to come back. So many, no, too many signs and prophecies about the world. People hold on to your seats! Back to bed.

reply to post by Terapin

Yes, and the Thera eruption (Santorini) in 1628 BC was probably even larger than Krakatoa.

Check out my thread What Happened 3600 Years Ago?

A lot more than most people think.

This is the beginning of the end..

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Risen

 

The change from the Richter to the MMS scale does not result in an across the board downgrading of magnitude. As often as not, the MMS value is higher than the Richter value.

Yeah, i said i was aware of all that, i just think it's a load of BS. What we've been seeing recently is much more damage from 8's and even 7's than we used to in the past.

Slightly off-topic, but can someone please answer me why Baja / California has been registering seismic activity every 5 minutes or so for 2-3 days now?

I understand after shocks, but it seems relentless.

hisz.rsoe.hu...


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Haarp is looks active....see for yourself.

137.229.36.30...
maestro.haarp.alaska.edu...

www.haarp.alaska.edu...

Originally posted by Skellon
Slightly off-topic, but can someone please answer me why Baja / California has been registering seismic activity every 5 minutes or so for 2-3 days now?

I understand after shocks, but it seems relentless.

hisz.rsoe.hu...


[edit on 6-4-2010 by Skellon]

Indeed, 650+ aftershocks in 48 hours is a bit.. much

That's a loose count, but it's not far off. Gratned.. they've been small. But the rapidity of them is just... wow

reply to post by Terapin


Huge difference between preaching and talking, and I'm just talking nothing more nothing less. And if you where offended in any way by my post I do apologize.

Originally posted by Skellon
Slightly off-topic, but can someone please answer me why Baja / California has been registering seismic activity every 5 minutes or so for 2-3 days now?

Which is a good thing if you look at it. All those little ones are releasing pressure that could otherwise build up and then release a large one.
I for one welcome all those as the Easter day quake really shook us good.

Originally posted by Brainiac
reply to post by projectvxn

 

If you want to do a simple experiment, take a glass of water, fill it up then add ice cubes right until almost to the top of the glass, come baack in an hour, and see if the glass overflowed... The water has to go somewhere right?
In solid form "ice" water is compacted, when melted it expands...

As a matter of fact, exactly the opposite is true. Water is denser than ice, which is why ice floats on water. When water freezes, it expands. Try your experiment.

The 4.1 in the Baja /California area at 17:31:18 does coincide to the peak in HAARP activity at the same time, but it is not conclusive as the 4.1 an hour before it does not seem to register the same level of activity.

I've seen several scientist relating solar activity to these earthquakes. Today April 5 and 6, 2010 a sharp gust of solar wind hit earth's magnetosphere. Which was also perfect timing for the Baja Cali quake as well. I've also seen some other tie in's with other quakes from around the world this year in conjunction with solar activity reacting with earths magnetic field. Of course I'm no professional. I check out the spaceweather.com and the Stereo satellites directly sent to my phone and a few other sites. Some say it's CERN which could be possible but who knows! I'd rather go with the solar activity because you can prove the science and the quake timing. We don't know what the hell their doing up at CERN.

Originally posted by SMR

Originally posted by Skellon
Slightly off-topic, but can someone please answer me why Baja / California has been registering seismic activity every 5 minutes or so for 2-3 days now?

Which is a good thing if you look at it. All those little ones are releasing pressure that could otherwise build up and then release a large one.
I for one welcome all those as the Easter day quake really shook us good.

Ah, good to know, thanks for educating me on that.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Common Good
I been wondering, since we been seeming to get all these earthquakes lately, do you think its global warming?

Another line.

How is it possible that slight differences in atmospheric temperature could have any bearing on the geological activity of the inner Earth?

I just do not see any connections there.

Care to share what you felt connected the two?

I would like to reply to this, because I don't think the question is as far-fetched as it seems:

IF you believe that global warming (climate change) has nothing to do with man, but is instead a part of the sun's natural cycle...

And IF you are like many of us here on ATS who have noticed that there seems to be a major earthquake after each major solar flare or solar storm (see previous threads this year)..

THEN, the question has some merit. And I think it does.

I am one of those people who believes that climate change is part of a greater solar or galactic cycle, and has nothing to do with man. And I have also noticed that many of the LARGE earthquakes have been preceeded by LARGE solar flares, or solar activities.

So, therefore, if we are in a cycle of unusually large solar flares, and also, if the magnetic pulses of the sun storms come up and interfere with the magnetic field of the earth, which creates a brief change in the earth's gravitational field (see Cliff High's explanation on halfpasthuman.com....he made a great diagram that explains it better than I can), and this creates stress on the earth's plates and fault lines.....then yes, this question makes sense.

So, here's my question:

If many of us here on ATS have noticed a correlation between solar activities preceeding major earthquakes....are the people at NASA (or anywhere else) studying this phenomenon? If so, where can we find the data? And if not....why not?

EDIT TO ADD:

I googled my question, and got a lot of hits. Here is one abstract that appeared in the journal of the Chinese Academy of Science. Still looking for info from NASA, but this is what the Chinese found:

Gui-Qing Zhang1

(1) Beijing Astronomical Observatory, Chinese Academy of Science, 100101 Beijing, China
Received: 4 July 1997 Revised: 25 November 1997 Accepted: 25 November 1997

Abstract The relations between sunspot numbers and earthquakes (M≧6), solar 10.7 cm radio flux and earthquakes, solar proton events and earthquakes have been analyzed in this paper. It has been found that: (1) Earthquakes occur frequently around the minimum years of solar activity. Generally, the earthquake activities are relatively less during the peak value years of solar activity, some say, around the period when magnetic polarity in the solar polar regions is reversed. (2) the earthquake frequency in the minimum period of solar activity is closely related to the maximum annual means of sunspot numbers, the maximum annual means of solar 10.7 cm radio flux and solar proton events of a whole solar cycle, and the relation between earthquake and solar proton events is closer than others. (3) As judged by above interrelationship, the period from 1995 to 1997 will be the years while earthquake activities are frequent. In the paper, the simple physical discussion has been carried out.
Key words solar activity - sunspot numbers - solar radio flux - solar proton events

These results supported the exploration and studies of some researchers to a certain extent.

Source: www.springerlink.com...

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the earthquakes are weekly. kind of bothers the nerves a bit doesn't it?

whether its natural or HAARP it doesn't seem good.

reply to post by muzzleflash

Oh, my wife's friend informed us that he believes Baja is on the direct other side of the earth. The word he used was Antipodal.

I had to see for myself...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6760f117f78e.jpg[/atsimg]

www.antipodemap.com...

I found another abstract linking earthquakes with the solar minimum, this time it was by the Russians:

Solar activity and global seismicity of the earth
Journal Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics
Publisher Allerton Press, Inc. distributed exclusively by Springer Science+Business Media LLC
ISSN 1062-8738 (Print) 1934-9432 (Online)
Issue Volume 71, Number 4 / April, 2007
Category Proceedings of the XXIX All-Russia Conference on Cosmic Rays
DOI 10.3103/S1062873807040466
Pages 593-595
Subject Collection Physics and Astronomy

S. D. Odintsov1, G. S. Ivanov-Kholodnyi1 and K. Georgieva2

(1) Pushkov Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere, and Radiowave Propagation, Russian Academy of Sciences, Troitsk, Moscow oblast, 142190, Russia
(2) Laboratory of Solar—Terrestrial Coupling, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, Sophia, Bulgaria
Abstract Results of studying the character and possible succession of cause-effect relations (in going from a disturbance source on the Sun to a response in the lithosphere in the range of periods from several days to the 11-year solar cycle) have been presented. It has been indicated that the maximum of seismic energy, released from earthquake sources in the 11-yr cycle of sunspots, is observed during the phase of cycle decline and lags 2 yr behind the solar cycle maximum. It has been established that the maximum in the number of earthquakes directly correlates with the instant of a sudden increase in the solar wind velocity.
Original Russian Text © S.D. Odintsov, G.S. Ivanov-Kholodnyi, K. Georgieva, 2007, published in Izvestiya Rossiiskoi Akademii Nauk. Seriya Fizicheskaya, 2007, Vol. 71, No. 4, pp. 608–610.

Source: www.springerlink.com...

The last sentence of the abstract really sparked my interest: "It has been established that the maximum in the number of earthquakes directly correlates with the instant of a sudden increase in the solar wind velocity."

So, there appears to be a connection with the sun and the earthquakes.

So, therefore, if climate change is also related to natural cycles of the sun, then CommonGood's question is not that far-off....they could all be related to the sun's natural cycles.




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www.cnn.com...#/video/world/2010/04/06/tsr.myers.indonesia.earthquake.cnn?hpt=T2

Not my channel of choice, but thought you might find this guy's response interesting.

And finally, I found something from NASA, that dates back to 1967:

The Smithsonian/NASA Astrophysics Data System

Solar activity as a triggering mechanism for earthquakes

Simpson, John F.
Earth and Planetary Science Letters, Volume 3, p. 417-425.
Solar activity, as indicated by sunspots, radio noise and geomagnetic indices, plays a significant but by no means exclusive role in the triggering of earthquakes. Maximum quake frequency occurs at times of moderately high and fluctuating solar activity. Terrestrial solar flare effects which are the actual coupling mechanisms which trigger quakes appear to be either abrupt accelerations in the earth's angular velocity or surges of telluric currents in the earth's crust. The graphs presented in this paper permit probabilistic forecasting of earthquakes, and when used in conjunction with local indicators may provide a significant tool for specific earthquake prediction.

Source: adsabs.harvard.edu...&PSL...3..417S


So, yes, even NASA said that: terrestrial solar flare effects trigger quakes, and may provide a significant tool for specific earthquake prediction!

EDIT TO ADD:

EDIT TO ADD:

So, it appears that the following agencies have done scientific studies that showed a definite link between solar activity and earthquakes:

1. NASA
2. The Russian Academy of Sciences
3. The Chinese Academy of Sciences


If any of the skeptics who continue to scoff at the idea of linking solar activity and earthquakes can show me studies that contradict these studies, I'd be happy to look at them. But, it appears to me, and to the scientists that did these studies, there is indeed a link between solar activity and earthquakes.





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Originally posted by evilod

Originally posted by Brainiac
reply to post by projectvxn

 

If you want to do a simple experiment, take a glass of water, fill it up then add ice cubes right until almost to the top of the glass, come baack in an hour, and see if the glass overflowed... The water has to go somewhere right?
In solid form "ice" water is compacted, when melted it expands...

As a matter of fact, exactly the opposite is true. Water is denser than ice, which is why ice floats on water. When water freezes, it expands. Try your experiment.

Bad news, the experiment failed!!!
The Ice had already been displaced as it was put into the water, so the Volume of water didn't change!
Something else is wrong with the Earth...


Oh and yup your right, i had a Soda explode in the freezer...

So i guess if we had "Global Freezing" then we'd be in trouble...

So something else is wrong, maybe "we" weigh too much? Could we be putting the earth at a crux? The population keeps rising, i.e. a sperm cell grows and becomes a full human complete with weight getting heavier and heavier, and we keep building denser buildings etc...

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