New Evidence Emerges On Obama's Background!!!

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry

Originally posted by treemanx

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry

Originally posted by OldDragger

What "evidence"?
A right wing blog? The "Blogging Professor"?
Please. Yawn.

Pretty much.

It seems these morons will go out of their way to find flaws (or make up some) about their president.

You know what really proves their lack of intelligence? They're McCain supporters

You know what really pisses me off? Whenever anyone questions Obama, his brainwashed supporters resort to personal attacks rather than addressing the issue. Its called AD HOM. Pick up a book and read about it some time. You are no credit to your party with posts like this. Get the HE!! over yourself.

First off sweetie, I'm not a Democrat and I don't represent their party. Thanks for the compliment though.

Second, did you just not resort to a personal attack? Instead of derailing, you can feel free to PM me and we can discuss this further.

Thank you.

As for someone else who said "oh but Democrats bashed Bush when he was president!"

Yes, it was Bush. How could you not bash a man who lead this country to TWO wars? The man who collapsed this country economically and now Obama has his mess to pick up.

There's a fine difference between Obama and a moronic redneck mass murdering homophobic creep.

Thanks for continuing to prove my point there sport!

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Interestingly enough, dozens of people HAVE taken it to court and they have either found them to have no standing or they rescind orders so the grounds for the case no longer apply - that in an of itself is fishy! Next, how can one compile any evidence for fact when the man has taken every step to lock down his entire life - the first time in the history of the presidency that this has been done.

The few FACTS that we have been able to substantiate have to come from sources that you folks don't like but seem to connect alot of dots that any sane person wouldn't like!

Let's just look at the pattern here... A complaint was lodged against him in IL with the IL Bar Association and rather than answer the complaint and address the charges, he decided to "Retire" and surrender his Law License. Is that something that innocent people, with nothing to hide - is that what they do?

People who walk around and swear that they will have the most transparent administration ever and then go and lock down every single record about themself - is that something open, honest, transparent people do? Or would that be something that someone who is hiding something would do?

When the members of the military challenged his legitimacy in court, the Pentgaon magically saw fit to simply rescind the orders so that there could not be a court-mandated discovery process that would subpoena his records - the records of the MILITARY Commander-In-Chief. Nothing fishy there at all.

reply to post by endisnighe


It is important to expose Obama, as it was important to expose Bush. They are cut from the same cloth. However it badly damages the argument against the real powers when there are silly arguments about Obama not being a citizen, being a Muslim (as if that is a crime)...

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by VintageEnvy

 

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

Sorry, I watch people back this guy

I watch people like you flag and cheer on OP's like this with no credible source to them. Why dont you stop buying to the lies and actually do the research yourself. Im not asking you to not dislike Obama anylonger, Im asking you to do the research yourself and back up your claims with solid evidence. A lie is a lie regardless of how bad you think the other person is.

when he does the exact opposite of what you guys stand

Obama is far from perfect, I have my disagreements but I have been satisfied far more. The claim that his doing the exact opposite is false, the claim that his not doing exactly what the left wants him to do is more accurate and should be more of a good thing in my opinion.

Now all the above aside you spent your whole time contributing to this thread ignoring the core accusation at hand and the unreliable source behind it. It says alot about what you are prepared to believe and not believe endisnighe.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by Southern Guardian]

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Beautifully said, you just said what I wish I had. Why would TPTB put an illegitimate candidate forward? Would it not make far more sense for them to field a candidate whose candidacy is solid (as they did)?

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by kozmo

 

Kozmo...you are funny. You believe the most ridiculous things because you hate Obama so much.


Good job...you have been easily manipulated by the GOP.

And you believe the most ridiculous things because you love Obama so much.


Good job, you have been easily manipulated by the progressive far-left.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Easy there! Quite the rush to judgement. You are so certain who I am voting for??? I haven't seen the candidates yet. I don't vote for parties - unlike many of you - I vote for people. Moreover, I vote for people I can trust to have the country's best interest at heart!

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
So here is your big argument...Obama said he was a Professor...when really his offical title was "Senior Lecturer"...in which the school he taught at they call "Senior Lecturers"...."Professors". So that makes him...a 100% liar.

You know what...I used to work at a place and my offical title was "Senior Software Engineer"...but when people asked me what I did...I said I was a "programmer"...but I in fact never held a position of "programmer"...EVER. OH poop...I guess I am a liar and my WHOLE background is now false.

HOW DARE YOU! How dare you describe yourself as a programmer when you were a software engineer! I will be talking to the relative authorities immediately, no doubt the tac people will be interested. I am also sure any future employer would be interested as well!

I was a hardware engineer, i dealt with installing servers, switches and other such things but i prefer to think of myself as a hardware implementation specialist. No doubt i'll be in trouble soon

You liar, disgraceful!

Originally posted by kozmo
Apparently a number of you think I am speaking as a Republican. Probably many of you see me as some right-wing extremist - you know, the ones the media are all propagandizing about!

Has anyone in this thread called you a Republican? Has anyone even made a parallel between you and the recently infamous Hutaree group?

Stop trying to shift focus and create a victim out of yourself.

Also a great many of you apparently see only in black and white, no shades of grey. And finally, a great many of you have scoffed at the "Sources", not because the sources are wrong, but because it flies in the face of your political ideology. OK, cool... whatever.

I believe the vast majority of people participating in this thread are pointing out the sources, not because they are (obviously) rabidly right-wing, but aren't even valid sources. They are simply unsourced, unverified opinions from random people with a predetermined ideological goal. A "blog" is not a source when it is unsupported.

And it's already been shown on page 1 that the term "Professor" and "Senior Lecturer" are not mutually exclusive, i.e. a Senior Lecturer is a Professor! This is coming from the school itself!

The rest of the argument put fourth by your OP is 100% based upon this logical fallacy of the beginning premise!

For the record, I am an Independent. I lean Libertarian. I condemned Bush and the Republicans when they had the con. I condemn the Democrats and Obama because right now, they have the con, and they're fracking it all up!!! Obama, a political rookie by any and every stretch, was elected to enact some fundamental changes in government - just NOT the ones he's chosen to enact!

Just because you disavow a party doesn't mean they can't conveniently manipulate you to further their own agenda. If you were truly interested in being an independent, you would have at least checked your own sources before you posted this silly blog article.

Now, any intellectually honest person would have to admit that when there is smoke, there is likely fire. There is smoke around Obama - a TON of it! And when I see reports like these, some dots start getting connected. So I apologize if it offends a great many of you who are too busy idolizing the man instead of employing the good sense that God gave you!

He is a politician. Anyone with an IQ of 80 and above should know beyond a shadow of a doubt his past is checkered with at least some stuff he'd rather hide. There isn't a single politician out there who can say differently.

If this report is honestly connecting dots for you, then you were never interested in the truth in the first place.

Obama will end up being a 2 term president because all these threads are doing nothing but proving to his supporters who know that he is making good changes, that we'll need to be out in force to make sure that the process can continue during elections. I know your scared of things changing even if it's for the better but, our country needs to change and Im so relieved it is finally happening, its long overdue.

Originally posted by Anthony1138
who cares? really think about it, hes a human being that is trying to fix america of her probelms. Kenya is just another country who cares where he was born, it doesn't change who he is.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by Anthony1138]

I CARE because the Constitution clearly states that one must be a natural born citizen to hold the office of President. Obama was born in Kenya, a fact that was stated many times in the past and totally ignored.

Obama is a lair, a thief and an impostor. He has his past locked up like NO previous President. The only good thing about him is that he will ultimately destroy the Democratic party and those who illegally put him where he is.

reply to post by expat2368


McCain was born in Panama; would you rail against him?

Originally posted by VintageEnvy
Obama will end up being a 2 term president because all these threads are doing nothing but proving to his supporters who know that he is making good changes, that we'll need to be out in force to make sure that the process can continue during elections. I know your scared of things changing even if it's for the better but, our country needs to change and Im so relieved it is finally happening, its long overdue.

You better hope he's 2 term, casue the majority in D.C. will likely soon be his opponents in upcoming elections.

Originally posted by kozmo
It keeps getting better. I just came across this info that indicates that Barack Obama has a complaint lodged against him through the IL Bar Association. See Comnplaint Data Here.

It looks like he may have voluntarily surrendered his Law License to avoid having to plead against the charges levied against him, including: "a) making a statement of material fact in
connection with a bar application that the applicant knows to be
false; b) committing a criminal act that reflects adversely on the
lawyer’s fitness to practice law; c) engaging in conduct involving
dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation; d) engaging in conduct
prejudicial to the administration of justice; and e) engaging in
conduct which brings the courts or the legal profession into
disrepute.”

WOW! I am floored that NONE of this was reported by the MSM prior to his election!

Sounds like the perfect politician.

Legitimacy?
Of course Obama has no legitimacy.
It is so ridiculous to me, that among so-called "intelligent" people, this is even a question.
I have not been on ATS all that long, but I have seen and read enough credible (YEAH, credible to ME) testimony and data on this website alone to be able to put the WHOLE picture together.
1, Your presidents, recent past, present, and foreseeable future are employees of whatever "cash group" is successful at putting their employee into the "front office".
2. This "cash group" can be WHOMEVER has the money and ability to get this deed done. Tickets are available, but the ticket is incredibly expensive.
3. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. This goes without saying, but Americans don't seem to get it. The presidency is a GIFT to Obama, and he WILL NOT let them that bestowed this gift upon him down.
4. We might as well be screaming at the television, for all of the good we are doing talking about the obvious.

I know there is a ton of money spent monitoring the internet, lists are being compiled, you better watch what you say/post because big brother is watching.
Big brother is not the only one that can compile lists. Watch what you post.

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by expat2368

 

McCain was born in Panama; would you rail against him?

Damn right I would. If he hid his birth certificate after being questioned as to where he was born. Damn right I would.

Originally posted by VintageEnvy
Obama will end up being a 2 term president because all these threads are doing nothing but proving to his supporters who know that he is making good changes, that we'll need to be out in force to make sure that the process can continue during elections. I know your scared of things changing even if it's for the better but, our country needs to change and Im so relieved it is finally happening, its long overdue.

It is impossible to respond to this because... well, because it is perhaps the single most ignorant thing that I have been exposed to this day!

Yeah, things are "Changing" but remarkably, things are staying EXACTLY the same!

To all the rest of you pouring your adoraction on the annointed one... I already addressed the fact that you don't like the source. How come no ones wants to tackle the issue of him surrendering his law license???

Originally posted by kozmo
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

 

Interestingly enough, dozens of people HAVE taken it to court and they have either found them to have no standing

Exactly, and your OP is a pure example of that. You hype up an accusation about Obama, insist it be true then link us to a source that links us to a blog that then links us to another blog and right back to the examiner. If you were in court against the president for this do you think your sources will hold up? Lets be serious here, do you think the courts will take your blog sources as evidence? This is exactly why so many lawsuits from the fringe right have been dismissed. They do not have credible sources.

Merely telling everybody that Obama spends millions of dollars to cover up documents does not make it true, you need to put the evidence where you mouth is. Telling people Obama lied and then use a blog as your source does not make it true as well. Infact it is rather hypocritical for you to base your entire thread over Obama lying where you use lies yourself to supply this claim. Its hypocritical.

The few FACTS that we have been able to substantiate have to come from sources that you folks don't like

Like a biased source that references from a blog that in turn references back to the biased source? You are prepared to take this as true over the official statement from the University itself? Why dont you think about what your claiming to here.

People who walk around and swear that they will have the most transparent administration ever

Bush claimed in his campaign that he'd be transparent, as did Reagan and Nixon previously. They are politicians, Obama is a politician, and while he may have appealed to my political views I never forget that he is a politician in the end. You all people should know this but you single out this president as in every other before him was sparkling clean.

When the members of the military challenged his legitimacy

What? Military service men and women dont hold their own views like average american citizens? Where'd you get that idea? I know of plenty of men and women serving who support Obama, I know of plenty of men and women who did not like Bush, who did not support the Iraq war. This doesnt mean their views represent the entire military. They are americans just like the rest of us, they hold opinions. Although running away from service over your personal issues with the president does no good.


[edit on 5-4-2010 by Southern Guardian]

reply to post by treemanx

And you believe the most ridiculous things because you love Obama so much.


Good job, you have been easily manipulated by the progressive far-left.

Really?

What ridiculous things do I believe? Tell me...what statements have I made that are sourced from a far-left blog and have stated them as fact???

reply to post by treemanx


I saw his birth certificate and I am not even American. You can see it too, just look it up.