New Evidence Emerges On Obama's Background!!!

Edited, sorry worng thread.

[edit on 6-4-2010 by rhines]

Didnt Barry S claim there were 57 states in our great nation?


Obama is a tool and a fraud. Bush stole elections, and Obama is an illegal president too. Why would you think he was a legit pres? Bush wasnt. Unless they overturn EVERYTHING he did, we dont get a truly elected pres.



'UMM UMM UMM
BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA
UMM UMM UMM'

Originally posted by skunknuts
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

 

More like this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2cc1d6f1a769.jpg[/atsimg]

vs.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c8250226535e.jpg[/atsimg]

Am I the only one who sees a problem with this comparison? The top certificate shows a raised seal from the state stamped into the paper, (which I have on my birth certificate), and looks like an authentic document. The bottom one on the other hand, looks computer generated and has no raised seal. Not sure if that means anything, but thought I'd mention it.

Originally posted by treemanx

Maybe there are some things about the Constitution that could be changed to reflect our modern Nation, but the fact is, there has been no change! Every President is required to live up to a certain set of standards, and if Obama was born in a different country, then he DOES NOT QUALIFY TO BE PRESIDENT. Period.

Just a question, did you vote for McCain, and you can answer im not going to McCain Bash. I just want to know your answer before i give some enlightening information in regards to this statement.

[edit on 6-4-2010 by joel.ohman]

sorry double post

[edit on 6-4-2010 by joel.ohman]

Originally posted by treemanx
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this comparison? The top certificate shows a raised seal from the state stamped into the paper,

Here you go, the raised seal:
www.factcheck.org...

The certificate as a whole:
www.factcheck.org...

and heres the signature:
www.factcheck.org...

Heres a comment from Janice Okubo from the Hawaiian health department after reviewing the birth certificate:

"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,"

www.politifact.com...

Another statement from her:

"I guess the big issue that's being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature," Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. "Because they scanned the front … you wouldn't see those things."

www.politifact.com...

Heres another statement on the matter again:

"They're just words," said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. "That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."

www.politifact.com...

and looks like an authentic document.

And you made this analysis just by the way it 'looks' yet you refuse to accept the above, verified by state officials, further verified by the individuals who have the database over Obama's birth. Here is another statement Dr Fukino herself that I will show you again:
hawaii.gov...
www.politifact.com...

If you could have easily assumed the birth certificate of another Hawaiian born citizen was authentic based merely on how it looks, it makes no sense for you to dismiss the facts above regarding the presidents. But yes continue on.

[edit on 6-4-2010 by Southern Guardian]

here is something i have wanted to know for a long time if the so called president id from another country how is he president? and if he did slip through the cracks then why now is nothing being done to remove him from office and if he is removed from office will he vice president be removed too? and if they both are removed then who is in charge and is that person going to be any better than obama? i dont think so but please correct me if im wrong what diffrence is it going to make if we remove obama from office? isn't the next person in line just going to pick up where he left off?

I perused all the links and as much as I hate to say it this seems like a load of garbage. I'm not a fan of the President, but I don't see any solid proof in the provided links. I'm glad you brought it up and I'm going to keep digging but I don't think I will get very far. I also have trouble buying that string pullers would advance Obama to the Presidency if he were not legitimate. Too many loose ends with that route.

Originally posted by killer4281
here is something i have wanted to know for a long time if the so called president id from another country how is he president? and if he did slip through the cracks then why now is nothing being done to remove him from office and if he is removed from office will he vice president be removed too? and if they both are removed then who is in charge and is that person going to be any better than obama? i dont think so but please correct me if im wrong what diffrence is it going to make if we remove obama from office? isn't the next person in line just going to pick up where he left off?

Duh! It is soooo simple. When he was born in Kenya, TPTB knew he would grow up to be president so they planted fake birth announcements in the Hawaii newspaper. Then he went off to college to become a coke dealer because while they had the foresight to plant the news of his birth, the just kind of let him go for a few decades and attempt to ruin all of that. Then, the Republicans as well as the Clintons wasted millions of dollars pretending to run against him, digging up anything and everything they could to look like they really wanted to defeat him but they skillfully ignored this huge conspiracy decades in the making. Now McCain is an irrelevant old joke and Mrs. Clinton has a far less prestigious and well paying job. Barry's past has been covered up because, after planting fake birth announcements in preparation for his presidency and then letting him joke around for years and years, they had to then cover that all up after he was fairly elected by the American people. Now his nefarious plan to extend healthcare benefits is well under way. Muah hah hah hah hah hah. It is so simple!

One of the pro Obama trolls may like to publish the documentation showing a legal name change from the documented and indisputable 'Barry Soetoro' to 'Barak Hussein Obama'.
Many folk have tried to locate this necessary documentaion - none have found it other than those busy trying to maintain the myth of his legitimacy. Please stop publishing useless and proven faked birth certificates and show us the important document.
Proof of actual name change.
Until such papers come to light it is reasonable to assume the man in the White House is in fact Barry Soetoro and has never been actually elected U S President.
What a constitutional nightmare.
America is increasingly seen not only as a rogue state but as a rogue administration right to the top. Its only credibility pushed on the planet with the bombs it drops on defenceless and innocent people.
A process started incidently by the last Democratic President of infamous memory Bill Clinton and continued by the evil one George W Bush.

I would be more inclined to believe you if you guys were not jumping on every little thing since the election to discredit this guy. You didn't even give it 6 months before going bat sh&t over his election. So anything republicans have to say needs to be taken not with a grain of salt, but with the whole shaker. You're all starting to show desperation and your approach to "problem solving" is very flawed. The investigation of criminal activity should not be biased to either side, the R & D next to a name should disappear, instead it is the sole deciding factor in your hate.

The real conspiracy: "Controversial election leads major republican leaders to sweep up support and divide a broad line between 'us and them' using talking points, blog posts, chain e-mails, a once dignified tea party,sensationalist tactics, mis-information, propaganda, and scaremongering."

There seems to be an awful strong tendency by the Obama defenders to treat him like he is member of their own family. The problem with that sort of approach to politicians is that there will be a tendency to overlook the faults of an elected official and create double standards, without fully realizing it, between the supported politician and the unsupported one.

In order to have a true democracy whereby the elected officials are representing the will of the people, a emotional disconnect may be necessary between the populace and the officials they elect. When the electorate become emotionally disconnected from elected officials then a more rational approach will ensue in scrutinizing the official's (including a president's) work to make sure she or he is acting according to the orders of the people that elected him or her.

Things on this thread have gone very quiet.
Let me reiterate.
Barack Hussein Obama has a much substance and integrity in reality as the dollars being printed by your Fed or Barbara Olsen's infamous phonecall.
You have a man named Barry Soetoro sitting in the White House. Unelected or sworn to office.
No wonder increasing numbers of your intelligent! military are challenging his legitimacy as Commander in Chief.
If he is Barry Soetoro your military will be facing the greatest war crimes tribunals since Nuremberg. All the mass killings carried out since Soetoro's occupation of the White House have no legal sanction under international law.

Greetings, Light of Night,

Originally posted by Light of Night
I think ATS has been infiltrated by primarily left-wing astro-turfers. I've read a lot of comments by a lot of people in many different forums, and all the people defending Obama all sound the same on all of them. The same ad-hominem attacks, the same sources of information to try to backup their position. Everything scripted and sounds the same all across the internet.

Careful, now, we're not supposed to disrespect the radical left. Yes, Light of Night, and it's rather amazing they didn't try to rebut what I previously posted; guess I did my job.

A few specifics reinforce your observations above.

-- They (the far left) naively argue that anyone who "questions" their "messiah" supports Bush. hell, Bush served liberalism quite well, albeit not enough for the radical socialists and Marxists.

-- They (the radical left) naively assume that anyone opposed to Barry Hussein Soetoro (alias Roman Obama) is a solid supporter of John, "Mr. Amnesty," McCain. McCain is one of them! duh!

-- They love the flaunt farces, like the laser printed Internet "Certification of Live Birth," which is obviously not the REAL Birth Certificate. Liberal Republican Linda Lingle supports the radical left on this. Why don't they flaunt the real birth certificate? Rahm Emmanuel and Cass Sunstein have the power to get it. If the real document supports the laser printed C.O.L.B, then these Acorn employees could embarrass and shut down conservatives for years to come. Why don't they publish the real piece of paper, and humiliate conservatives into oblivion? Is it so hard to raise the $12 fee for the real piece of paper? Well, they could get the Mexican drug dealers to print em up a convincing counterfeit "real" birth certificate to flaunt. There's an idea they haven't thought of.

-- They naively expect the public to believe obama's own factcheck organization; it's obama's organization, every one of their employees is beholden to obamamenijad. factcheck.org is NOT God yet!

-- Are these people Acorn employees? If so, then it's our hard-earned tax dollars paying their salaries.

-- Look at their writing style, are they doing a Saul Alinsky job on Kozmo?

-- There must be a lot of truth in what Kozmo posted, and in what many staff and faculty members stated, otherwise the radical left wouldn't be reacting so impetuously.

This looks way more genuine to me!....(But there will be a post coming up to say "PUNKED",if the Obama fan club is up to their usual stunts!)



www.wnd.com...

It seems incredible that you people are going to all this trouble attacking the president.
Even if it is all true, you are never going to get him out of office arguing over some pieces of paper.

The most likely way that Obama will be removed are if his policies are proved to be disasterous after a reasonable period in office.

Originally posted by kozmo
Well, we knew the guy was a liar! Pretty much everything he promised while campaigning turned out to be lies. Now it looks like a HUGE part of his background has been fabricated as well!

Investigation Reveals Bogus Claims On Obama Resume

This is some pretty serious stuff, folks! In the private sector, making these claims and then an employer finding out that the claims were false - would get you FIRED!

No wonder he has spent nearly $2Million dollars to seal any and every imaginable record. It really makes you wonder what else he is hiding. I think he is a manchurian candidate, folks! I also wonder when all o fhis adoring supporters are going to yank their heads from their keisters and join the rest of us in demanding the truth from this poser!

It's too bad that America has a two term limit, having ol Bushy in office til the day he died would have been magical.... Oh wait, you know what, your world is full of sh*t too!!!!

reply to post by kozmo


We didn't hear Bush had dodged the Army and went on a coc aine binge till his 2nd term. You actually think misinformation wouldn't be previlent in the presidency??

No. It sounds like you're (OP) taking fabricated information seriously, and becoming offended when people question the source. The OP was well made upon a serious topic. Your reaction to those willing to question the information in the OP, on the other hand, is far from professional. Valid questions require valid responses. Repeating hogwash isn't going to help us solve anything. Let's try and come up with answers to the questions without getting angry and citing more nonsense.

Flagged.


Cheers,
Strype

Originally posted by Imightknow
It's too bad that America has a two term limit, having ol Bushy in office til the day he died would have been magical.... Oh wait, you know what, your world is full of sh*t too!!!!

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc! Many, if not MOST, of us did NOT support Bush either. But hey, why deal with the present and the emerging data when we can live in the past and obfuscate our way through this current disaster, eh?