White supremacist Eugene Terre'Blanche is hacked to death after row with farmworkers

reply to post by jinx880101


Fair point. What part of South Africa do you live in? Do you agree with the reports coming out of the country that racial tensions are rising? Or has it just never gone away?

It's called Karma.


The guy was a complete and utter racist bastard... and a nasty piece of work to boot.

I also remember the Louis Theroux thing... and also not long after he went to prison for assault and Attempted murder.


He was truly despicable.

I just wonder was he and his group may of been an embaressment to south africa during the world cup, if they protested or something.

Do any of you know if they planned to make a big noise at the world cup, who ever his group where?

He was an absolute asshole on that documentary i remember.

it just stun me that the Guardian would title it with "White supremacist“ as the two first words of the headline. It is almost that they imply that this victim of a terrible crime deserved to be killed. Talking about racism....

reply to post by Peruvianmonk


the news story claims that he had not paid them their wages
so maybe it can be said that this was industrial action , since it would be pointless going on strike if your not being paid anyway

reply to post by Peruvianmonk

Fair point. What part of South Africa do you live in? Do you agree with the reports coming out of the country that racial tensions are rising? Or has it just never gone away?

I live near Cape Town- Hermanus to be more specific. It's in the Western Cape.

I do agree that racial tensions are rising- Mainly after the last presidential elections when Jabob Zuma was elected, people wonder why because of his level of education. But it all went down hill mostly with this whole Julius Malema business. It's making headlines every night. I think a major reason for this upheaval is that the ANC is backing his actions every step of the way.

I think what plays a big part is that whites are losing their jobs to lessor educated black people due to BEE. And therefore, there are a whole new set of problems to deal with here.

I personally feel tensions growing within myself because I feel that Julius Malema is undoing years of progress between our two races. My generation and younger generations who are not a directly part of apartheid need not be constantly reminded of what what happened in the past. We do not need to be a part of the struggles of our ancestors, we are past that.

How can we ever move forward if our generation of whites (who are not guilty of anything) are made to feel guilty. And our generation of blacks are incited to feel hate towards us for actions we did not commit?

How can we then be unprejudiced towards each other? It's time to let bygones be bygones and look to the future, but it seems some bitter people will not grant us this luxury or true freedom.

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Originally posted by jinx880101
How can we ever move forward if our generation of whites (who are not guilty of anything) are made to feel guilty. And our generation of blacks are incited to feel hate towards us for actions we did not commit?

How can we then be unprejudiced towards each other? It's time to let bygones be bygones and look to the future, but it seems some bitter people will not grant us this luxury or true freedom.

Very well said. Nobody is suggesting we sweep past injustices under the rug and forget they happened. It is more about acknowledging that true peace can only be achieved if both sides are willing to move forward and form new bonds with people of another race. Continually being reminded about past injustice only creates distrust and reluctance to form peace.

I still find it breathtaking that people can say the most insulting and hateful remarks against whites because of what "they" have done to others in the past. But I guess it is just a sign of the times we live in.

reply to post by Dark Ghost


Thank you-

I am directly referring to what Jacob Zuma said in defense of Julius Malema's actions over the last few weeks. I will quote from memory from a news broadcast. Jacob Zuma- " We will not stop singing these songs- so that many future generations will know were we are coming from."

I agree that we should not forget the history of our country. I just don't see how this kind of reinforcing/indoctrination of hatred is necessary, and how it's going to help us in the long run.

reply to post by jinx880101


Starred. Very eloquently put.

I just looked up this Julius Malema, who i had no knowledge of. He does seem quite the stirrer. Using any oppertunity to blame whitey.

I found his comments about the economy interesting. Claiming that there is a white control over the economy. Do you know if there is there any basis in fact on that point?

Following the appointment of Gil Marcus, a white woman, as Governor of the South African Reserve Bank, Malema complained that "minorities" (whites, Coloureds and Indians) ran what he defined as the "economic cluster" in the South African cabinet, in reference to finance minister Pravin Gordhan, economic development minister Ebrahim Patel, planning minister Trevor Manuel and Barbara Hogan, Minister of Public Enterprises. These comments were controversial, as they contradicted the ANC's long-running policy of non-racialism.

The ANC's alliance partner, the SACP, referring to the statement warned against a "narrow African chauvinism" . President Jacob Zuma's office also defended the appointments .

en.wikipedia.org...

Couldn't find any other reference to it so Wiki will have to do.

It is important to remember that Mandela went to the IMF and institutionalised all the same old failed polices for a developing country and sold out the ppeople who elected him.

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reply to post by Peruvianmonk


Thank you.

Your find on Malema's comments on our economy is news to me. But I am not surprised, and even less surprised that the ANC are backing his complaints.

I just checked, can't find much on that either... but I'm sure it will make the news headlines, as he does every night.

Found this article on iafrica. The Decoy Theory

Might be useful for those who want to understand the greater political environment in South Africa over the last 5 years.

The theory itself could also hold merit.

Wonder why this guys warrants the title of "White Supremacist" by the media.
Making reference to his White supremacist views seems to imply his ideology had some sort of legitimacy??

Last time I looked; if you had a minority ideology or cause and used bombs to kill people in pursuit of this you were a Terrorist..plain and simple.

Guess he looked too much like "Santa" to be called a "Terrorist."

Murder is never a nice thing but it couldnt have happened to a nicer person IMO.






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If anyone had it coming its Robert Mugabe, everyone cries Racism because this guy is white and wants to take the land. Yet Mugabe has murdered White Farmers, and eradicated them out the country (imagine if the equivalent of the BNP did that here in the UK with ethnic minorities.)

And there's no uproar about that, simply because its acceptable to let "white men" get pushed around and treated like scum because somehow our Human Rights don't appeal.

reply to post by ROBL240


Exactly. It amazes me how irish people in england get treated and is good example of what your saying. irish used to get treated just as bad in england as blacks.

But today we have a culture in london where whites are being pissed on so bad. But blacks assume because your white you must be paying for what there ancestors went through.

What happens when your ancestors where irish living in england.

The racism thing is stup1d and people never think. Somehow irish white people who have always been treated like cr1p in england, get treated twice as bad now, as they are white and they are irish.

Its like how some cultures claim this and that happened to them, every culture and people have bad things happen to them, and they never consider this at all.

reply to post by da_ruse

Found this article on iafrica. The Decoy Theory Might be useful for those who want to understand the greater political environment in South Africa over the last 5 years. The theory itself could also hold merit.

Interesting read, and interesting theory. I agree, this theory does hold merit and even if it doesn't - I hope it get's around so that we can open our eyes and focus more on what is happening within the presidency and policies put in place while the nations heads are turned.

I live in Johannesburg, South Africa

As Jinx have mentioned, racial tension are quite high, however, it is not nearly as high as it have been year before. The Football World Cup is at least uniting us as a nation a bit more every day as the world cup draws nearer.

Julius Malema = BAD NEWS
Eugene Terblance = BAD NEWS

Both of the have/had their faults. FIngers crossed that the run up to the world cup goes well

Originally posted by andy1033
reply to post by ROBL240

 

Exactly. It amazes me how irish people in england get treated and is good example of what your saying. irish used to get treated just as bad in england as blacks.

But today we have a culture in london where whites are being pissed on so bad. But blacks assume because your white you must be paying for what there ancestors went through.


The racism thing is stup1d and people never think. Somehow irish white people who have always been treated like cr1p in england, get treated twice as bad now, as they are white and they are irish.

Its like how some cultures claim this and that happened to them, every culture and people have bad things happen to them, and they never consider this at all.

Wow! Do tell me how white men are being treated badly in London. Hint; I am a South Londoner with a first class university education from a university that was always a university.

When last have you been stopped for having a decent car or even search for having a knife????? In fact given the statistics for interracial relationships with black men how anti white can London really be??

I can give a list of crap that I have suffered from idiots who expected me to be even less qualified thatn them. Sadly a lot of it is job related

But let me hear ya.

Anyway like the Murphys "I am not Bitter".

Eugene Terre'blanche was an avowed White supremacist because he found a party based on white supremacy. The only good people in his mind were the voertrekkkers (Spelling). People should go and look at his party and then see where he stood rather than this kneejerk crying about mislabelling. I saw the television programme(s) a few years ago and heard his views from his own lips. Sorry if I did not telephone him recently to see if his views had changed my bad!

I have been on the website and take back what I posted about his Nazi symbols as the AWB does give a different explanation to that which I took. It is not a triskelle (sp) it is three "7s". I do maintain that if one looks it the symbols without their interpretation it is reasonable to see a connection.



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Originally posted by ROBL240
If anyone had it coming its Robert Mugabe, everyone cries Racism because this guy is white and wants to take the land. Yet Mugabe has murdered White Farmers, and eradicated them out the country (imagine if the equivalent of the BNP did that here in the UK with ethnic minorities.)

And there's no uproar about that, simply because its acceptable to let "white men" get pushed around and treated like scum because somehow our Human Rights don't appeal.

I guarantee that there would as much "Cheer" about the death of Mugabe as there is about Terre'Blanche.

Mugabe deserves his comeuppance as much as the next extremist ass.

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Just finished my round of family phone calls for Easter. My old man runs a game farm in Mpumalanga North of Pretoria and all he had to say about the matter was that nobody gives a # about ET or Malema a.

As usual the daily grind trumps all media sensationalism.

Still this isn't over yet.

reply to post by andy1033


Quelle suprise.
Any opportunity to spout your anti-UK rhetoric.
So predictable.

Only recently I was speaking to a Zimbabwean whose farm, which had been in his famiy for generations, was confiscated by some of Mugabe's cronies.
I think some of his famhands, who were black, tried to resist and were killed.
The farm was subsequently mis-managed and is derelict.
Zimbabwe used to be known as The Bread Basket Of Africa, now it is bankrupt and in complete ruins.
The man and his story is by no means unique.
He moved to South Africa then on to England.
He left South Africa because he saw what was coming.
He was adamant that after The World Cup then the ANC would start implementing a programme to 'nationalise' farms, banks, mines etc.
South Africa will go the same way as Zimbabwe, and the 'The West' will do nothing for fear of accusations of neo-colonialism.

Terreblanche had the courage to stand up for his heritage and culture.
But he was a man born too late and the modern world has no place for his bigotry and racism.