Millions will lose unemployment benefit extensions April 5th

reply to post by Lookingup


Oh that's a good point -- any kind of social science degree is useless. Originally they were good for either CIA work or for when there were tons of corporate clerical jobs (now replaced by computers).

Instead a typical top 10 university has some 300 corporations doing "research" there -- donating fully tax deductible money to get FREE LAB LOCATION, FREE EQUIPMENT, FREE STUDENT RESEARCHERS, and FREE LAB RESULTS

What a scam science is -- that's why student loans are the 2nd highest source of profits for banks after home mortgages -- because the corporate elite donate a little bit of tax deductible money and then control what type of research goes on -- yes it's technical research that destroys Nature.

www.nytimes.com...

But even the net price, after taking into account grants and other forms of aid, is rising more quickly than prices of other goods and than family incomes. In recent years, consumer prices have risen less than 3 percent a year, while net tuition at public colleges has risen by 8.8 percent and at private ones, 6.7 percent.

Automation is the single biggest cause of job loss -- whether it's China or the U.S. thanks to "engineers" subsidized by STUDENT LOANS!!

Check out Laurence Soley's "Leasing the Ivory Tower" -- www.amazon.com...

If you want to know the truth.

Otherwise just go to your local university's technical center and ask for a list of their corporate research contracts. They'll be pissed at you for wanting this information but it's public record.

Laurence Soley was fired from the U of Minnesota for exposing the corporate control of universities but he got a new job at another university.

Of course I know all this because I did a self-designed social science masters degree.

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reply to post by Stedlinn


If that is true, then every business owner should be concerned. It appears, based on the business owners here, they will take the money when it benefits their business, but to hell with anyone else.

I feel abit bad now posting for the pro's of the Healthcare Bill when its followed with such a barbaric Unemployment benifit bill...........You guys need what we did in the UK in the past BUY BRITISH or in your case BUY AMERICAN if it hasn't got Made In The USA don't buy it..........and time to learn what my grandad taught me.....how to grow and tend your garden, its healthier than the crap you buy in stores anyway and its cheaper....especially when you can create your own seeds too. PTB can't stop you eating the food your grow yourself.
I'm unemployed and my wife is severely disabled so I cannot work my work is my Care......I have arranged my Garden(back yard) to grow my own because you never know where the **its gonna go down next.

reply to post by Zosynspiracy

Hey, OP ! Hey, Inland Empire ! Hey everyone ! Here's some "statistics" for OUR area, 2nd highest unemployment, after Detriot, MI:
Great News In Our Local Paper...?.
After 29 consecutive months of job loss, the Inland Empire finally experienced job growth in February to the tune of 2,100 new jobs, according to new figures released by Northern California-based Beacon Economics. www.sbsun.com...
A Prior article stated:
Census 2010 will be hiring about 1,200 workers in Riverside and San Bernardino counties in the next few months, with a potential for that number to double as the census count nears, said Jerry Wong, assistant regional census manager for the Los Angeles region, which covers both counties
Conclusion:
The Census actually hired about 2000 new temporary, part-time workers, which appears to about cover the new jobs our paper has listed above. (We knew that the media would use this figure as an "improving economy!".)
About 7000 people ran out of unemployment during the same period.
I am personally involved in this, as the system has delayed filing my extension for almost 3 months now, and I see the April deadline here, and now I feel I know why the Agent said "my extension went rogue." They lost my case, in other words. Now I wonder how many others got lost and will 'Not Qualify." Where in hew will we live? Rent is 1-2K per month here.
blessings, all, and prayers.

reply to post by DreamerOracle


I think you are right. It is SO HARD to find U.S. made good though. Luckily, I make enough to be able to go online and find them. I do without other things to off set the cost.

For example, here are two things I just bought: Woodsman's Pal

Estwing Axe

Both are lovely, well made tools, but not cheap.

Later, I am going to eat at a local mom and pop restaurant.

I've got a garden, chickens, and ducks. Anybody need duck meat??? They are breeding all over the place out here!!

Ohohohoho, just wait until cRap and trade comes in and to think that some folks don't see the conspiracy to enslave us all.

reply to post by ugie1028


Our forefathers are still here, and their blood is boiling. It appears the
Powers that Be have officially replaced the observance of Good Friday
with National Autism Awareness Day.
I for one haven't had enough flaming shots of thermometer before I was
12 to not notice this happening. I've NEVER been out of work for two years plus
until now, and it isn't scary. I beat throat cancer, and there's a
reason.. my mission ain't over.
Look at it like the "Stripes" movie: we're mutts in this country, and we
can take care of ourselves pretty well in a pinch. It's time, bros and sisses.

"The rule of the color of law is TYRANNY"

reading this tread is a nightmare .
all these ppl blaming the UNIMPOLYED for this countrys down turn.
You do relise these people were employed right???
You do relise these people payed TAXES ON THERE WAGES right???
YOU DO relize the money there getting is only THE MONEY THEY PAYED IN not you right???
no your smart enough to run your own business just not smart enough to understand when you pay for JOB INSURANCE its there to be used IF YOU LOUSE a job..
My god man they payed the money in its THERE MONEY not yours not the goverments THERES.
man get a clue o btw no I DONOT collect any kind of money from the goverment not even foodstamps .
but I DO UNDERSTAND THE consept of insurance looks like your collage forgot to teach you a few things o but alest you spell check nicely

Heres something I found to lighten things up. I havent read the Onion in along time but today i needed a chuckle. Wouldnt you know the topic is exactly how I feel.

The Onion - recession

Sorry i felt it was a little on Topic

The craziest thing about this is people are struggling financially, their credit is getting ruined, and the few businesses that are hiring have so many people applying that they are throwing the applicants out that have poor credit ratings.

I think it's about time to start colonizing again, the BLM sounds like a good place to start.

The bad thing is we have a big part of the blame.

I'm guilty of living above my means. I financed a 20 thousand dollar car about 3 years ago. Everybody lives off credit cards and spends their money they make to repay that debt with outrageous interest. Televisions in our homes went from 12 in. colored screens to 53 in muli-thousand dollar Plasma TV's. If at that moment you decide to buy that tv but don't have the money, well that's okay, just put it on your 19% credit card.

Credit was developed to pull this nation out of the great depression. The elite were not making money because nobody had money to spend and the little they did went to food. So they developed the credit system where people could buy necessities and pay for it in small payments. unfortunately, a 53 inch flat screen and 20 thousand dollar cars (which I'm thinking about letting go) are the new necessities of this nation.

Unemployment isn't very far from the same concept as credit. The government knows that when the job markets crash so do the stock markets because nobody has money to spend on goods and services. So when you think about it, unemployment isn't for the citizen at all, it's for the citizen to throw back into the economy and the government. They don't give two squirts of piss if you can afford you 53 inch LCD tv, you 200,000 dollar mortgage, or your 20,000 dollar automobile, they just care about the stocks.

reply to post by Halfburnt


Here's an amazing documentary on credit:

MAXED OUT

awesome expose:

topdocumentaryfilms.com...

It's the most evil industry in the U.S.

reply to post by Retrovertigo


We don't want this socialist b.s. We want jobs-we had jobs but they let them go overseas. We don't want to lose our houses,cars and everything you need to actually feel human in this day and age.
A huge amount of Americans have lost their jobs dude-they aren't giving out the real numbers-C mon man !
I live in a pretty decent neighborhood and only four people on my street have a job 4-real ! Four people have a job-that is alarming ! If you are far away it isn't easy for you to see what I am seeing. From my vantage point we are in big trouble and homelessness is at a all time high.
We are not proud-we are just trying to survive at this moment in time and it really sucks! Have a heart-we are human beings too !
Peace

I lost my job 9 months ago. I made a good wage. now i may loose my home i got. there are 8 people on my street who lost thier jobs and one who just got a job as a janitor for four hours a day at 9 an hour. I believe it is alot worse than they all say, alot worse. my job went overseas. most production jobs went overseas to lower paid workers and no insurance that the buisnesses have to pay there. Also , the buisnesses pay no taxes either. big bonuses for buisness, not here, it is not worth it here for buisness because of all the pay outs buisness does in the U.S.A . no wonder buisnesses go out of the usa. no money in it, when you have to pay so much out. We all have to pay for the debt, see how it effects usa. we loose jobs. pretty soon we will have no jobs and become a third world country, when AMERICA gets outsourced and all buisness goes somewhere else. I will most likely loose my home. Hey, i have two tents.

Wow as I read through this long thread and tried to digest the data within I discovered as I have discovered reading so many forums and subjects on this matter that people are just sorta unconnected in what is really going on and how much this will effect everybody not just the ones drawing the UI.

A lot of us they call 99'ers we have been unemployed a long time and have drawn out the extensions. These 30 day extensions they been fighting over and adding do nothing for 99'ers all they do is extend the deadline to pass on to the next tier. And a lot of us never got the 99 weeks I am one of these. I got 70 weeks. I did squeeze into the last Tier 4 because of the last deadline extension.

Now the ones I read in this thread slamming the unemployed to get a job are those lucky and still have their jobs and they don't give a crap what the rest do or live through. Well I have news for most of you it is coming your way soon also. When working people have money they spend it and when they don't spend it more doors close and more companys cut back so more jobs are lost.

So as these struggling to survive people that have been begging for jobs and surviving on 1/2 or less what they made when working start to drop off and go dark, homeless, and start living in the streets a lot of the lucky with jobs now won't be so lucky.

I was making about 1300.00 a month take home for 5 years in a no end work my ass off job the UI was 183.00 a week. Now if people think for 1 minute I wouldn't work if I could find a job they are full of s***. Thanks to my wife's job and that 183.00 a week we survived. Well we have lost almost everything doing it. And next month we will go dark the UI is finished. Me and many many others every week will start dropping off and the spending will go down more as every one of us fall. So more and more jobs and lives will be affected each and every day. So folks with that high and mighty attitude might better start thinking a tad more.

Call UI whatever you want it survived me and my wife or we would be sleeping under a bridge just now. And it saved a lot of folks their jobs also when you look at folks spending money and keeping others working. When this head up their A**'s government sends billions of dollars overseas very little of that money does our economy any good what so ever. So curse the unemployed when you still have your job go right ahead. These people surviving and spending that UI in THIS COUNTRY saved a lot of you your jobs so far.

There were so many good responses in this thread and some so stupid there was no sense typing them because most of us never read em they just showed the stupidity of the poster is all they did.

Anyways this is getting too long here and I best get off my soapbox and shut up and crawl back into my little working mans hole and suffer some more. But try to put yourselves in anothers shoes, (because man you may need the learning soon) what would or better yet what WILL you do when you start losing everything you have at 60 years old like I am? Because it looks very much like things will go this way as these millions start dropping off UI. More will be affected and you may be one of them. Working folks work and they spend and spend, when they stop spending by the millions then millions more will start to suffer. Their money doesn't go in a bank account or 401k it goes to survive and is spent the instant they get it. So economic boost is instantaneous from that spent money.

I am sure this post will generate some hate and Bulls*** my way but let er rip. I speak for the 100's of 1000's getting ready like me to drop off UI with no hope just like me. Let us work, create the jobs and let us go on and not become a burden on society because so many of us are way too old to ever get back what we have already lost.

Peace and flame as you wish.

They have money for wars, they will give me my unemployment.

So we are within hours of seeing this implemented... I wonder how this is going to go down...will this be nothing? Will this be huge? A lot of things are scheduled for the 5th...This day could be very interesting to say the least and will most likely be one to remember.

I just want to say to anyone on here in need.

I have a little land, nothing fancy, in fact far from it. If you need a place to camp, park and RV build a whatever to live in until this all ends. Then my place is here for you. For as long as you need it.

Please U2U me if you want to take me up on this offer.

I am in mid-Missouri

I am serious about this! I am unemployed as well but I own this land outright, so I won't be losing it.

reply to post by freedomataprice


I just want to say that is an extremely nice gesture. I hope we see this type of humanity becoming more common in the near future. We will most likely need it.

reply to post by Smell The Roses


Thank you

I am just so tired of seeing people suffer. It does not need to be this way.

I hope if someone is on the brink of losing their home that instead of living on the streets they would consider an alternative.

reply to post by freedomataprice


That is a really cool offer...a lot of people don't know where even to pitch a tent. Having a place to pitch a tent would be awesome enough. Fortunately, some of us have family or friends willing to take us in, but there are others that could use a hand.