What if GOD was all of them?

Lately a student asked me
If you don't believe in god will you go to hell, or a lower realm?

This got me thinking...

What if GOD was all of them (Buddha/Allah/Mohammad/Jesus Christ - and all the GODS prior to the mainstream gods), and it was a test? to see if you can bypass differences and truly become one with all.

What if God was all of them?
Just a Humourist who fought the phlegm?*
Just someone who foes condemns?
Tryin' t'make us sing "ohm"

*en.wikipedia.org...

Jokes aside, this is a pretty interesting topic. It's been discussed before, but I've never actually engaged with the discussion; there's this discussion group on my campus which claims to be open for debate between all theories but actually has a hardcore Christian bias which goes through a rotation of topics, one of which is something along the lines of "are all Gods the same God?"

Of course, another of their topics is "What does the bible say about dating?" so...

[edit on 29-3-2010 by Solasis]

reply to post by JOINTHERESISTANCE




What if god was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us,
ust a stranger on the bus,
Trying to make his way home?

Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by JOINTHERESISTANCE

 

What if god was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us,
ust a stranger on the bus,
Trying to make his way home?

What if God was one of us?
then what?
if we was a slob, a stranger or ...

What if god was all gods? and not just the one which many worship, what if they were worshiping the many, which was only one?

i dont think it's any kind of a test but i definitely think He is all of them. After all, if he is all powerful then he will encompass every quality (good and bad) and every personality we can think of without it being a contradiction.

A good example of this is in Hinduism where Shiva is the destroyer but this leads to rebirth. The is another (name escapes me at the moment) that is the converse of Shiva (Vishnu?) so on the face of it this may seem contradictory and absurd that you could have a god that is a destroyer but god encompasses it all. In fact, the Hindu gods system is a very good way to look at god and different faiths.

If you dip your fingers in a fish tank the fish will see five digits but if it could see a bit further it would notice that the five digits are in fact all the same thing, just different aspects of it.

Well, strictly speaking the creator of our Universe wouldnt give a flying fig about any of those made up names man created for it or which ones humans chose to follow.

Judgement of human deeds would be well below the interest levels of any true omnipotent creator as it would not only already know the outcome of your faith choice but must have created that choice as part of the plan.

Gods gift to man was choice etc etc attempts to paper the crack over the Omnipotency arguement.

If I lock my dog in the kitchen for too long and it pisses do I shout at the dog becasue it chose to piss???
No... and thats just me a regular human....I hate to think what universal compassion a true creator would have.

what if you could read my signature and not change your opinion ... I would be amazed

a god probably exists but its not anything like any of these religion say

a creator wouldnt be like us, it would be something we cant even imagine, and it wouldnt care about us, it would care about everything, we are just a part of a system, we are not the center

some people still live by the earth center of the universe thing

John 14:2 is the catch-all
"In my Father's house are many mansions:"

Basically, the peeps are being told that the kingdom of god is not for any one particular belief...but rather just belief.

Jesus gave us some easy rules...love yourself, love your neighbor, love God.
Jesus then sacrificed himself for the forgiveness of man for all time. Ultimately you dont even need to believe in God to get into heaven if this is true...
Paul said we must accept christ and become baptised in his name, etc etc etc...but Jesus never said that. Jesus said to the criminals on the cross that heaven was for them also...and what the hell did they do? They didn't beg forgivness for their crimes, they didnt do anything to warrant heaven...they simply queried Jesus and was told this...why, because Christ was sorting out all this heaven/hell stuff with his sacrifice.

Those whom demand people have to jump through hoops to get into heaven are clearly not understanding the sacrifice. Jesus knew humans were screwed up morons, but he liked us...so, he gave his life so that we are default heaven bound. To say differently is belittling the sacrifice he gave to humanity.

-agnostic, just how it reads-

reply to post by Frakkerface


There is no converse of Shiva. That's a fundamental misunderstanding. Shiva's the end of the world process; Brahma begins it and Vishnu preserves it. The world, I mean. They're all aspects of Trimurti, according to Wikipedia; I had never heard that name before, but I'm not Hindu. There are other traditions too, in which Shiva is one of five particular gods. Who are probably also one God. According to a Krishna I met on campus, our universe is -- and I'm not sure how much this is metaphor and how much of it is meant to be literal -- a part of one of many bubbles, being blown by THE God in its bath. It's exhaling now, and will eventually inhale, ending all the bubbles... then will breathe again.

Religion based Gods to do list:

Create Universe on a scale that is literally unimaginable.
Create everything in it and then provide an infinitely complex set of physical constraints
Create the Earth
Create Life
Create Humans in own image for purely egostistical purposes
Make Human life into a test on which I can then score them at the end.

Seems God was great but then got a bit distracted at the end to me...

Originally posted by james2009


What if God was one of us?
then what?
if we was a slob, a stranger or ...

What if god was all gods? and not just the one which many worship, what if they were worshiping the many, which was only one?

Then we would never know would we?

Would you honestly believe a guy who said he was god?
Or The second coming of Christ?

If Jesus came back, then he's in a mental asylum right now, jacked up on meds... rocking back and forth, strapped in a Jacket.... that's what happens when you start telling people that you believe you're god or christ.



But I think if there is a god or gods or holy spirits and so on.... that It's all us and all in our minds.


Gnosis.

reply to post by Jukiodone


I'm not sure I see the necessity of it being only humans who are being tested. What about other conscious life forms? do they not get to take this test too?

(I don't believe we're being tested, though. Nor that there's a God.)

I believe, you are referring to, the Baha'i faith concept of manifestations of God. According to them, God cannot take on human incarnation, and thus sends prophets to represent His wisdom. Abraham, Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammadan, et al are all manifestations of the Supreme Being.

In essences, it is essentially defined as unity of all religions.

I think he uses his energies to influence the Earth over time and sends his ENLIGHTENED CHILDREN to modify this Earth which exist within this little universe. I just think he picks the souls of men who shine a certin way to him from above (like your personall electromagnetic field signature) this allows him to pick the ripest of the ripe to carry out his DEEDS.

GOOD POINT O.P. AND I AGREE THEY ARE ALL ONE OR MORE ENERGY FORMS JUST AS THE RETURN OF THE LAMB and his assistance WILL BE FOR THIS TIME IN EXISTANCE.
s&f

[edit on 3/29/10 by Ophiuchus 13]

Does a red blood cell have consciousness?... It is born, has a life and purpose and then dies. Millions a day.

Does this Blood Cell think that it might be a part of something much bigger. Does it know the greater purpose it serves carrying oxygen to other Cells.

Maybe we are the nervous tissue of a being called Earth....

Maybe everything we do has purpose, and we are not as lost as we think, maybe b/c it's just so big we can't see it.

reply to post by blupblup


Going a bit further on that thought, what if We are (all together) God? I have to tell you that when you delve deeply into the occult teachings, you begin to feel like you are God. Some scientists have also said this.

reply to post by wylee


Tend to agree with this view but I'd say that rather than stopping at the Earth; extend this theory to the Universe in it's entirety.

If the Universe needed a way to view itself from the inside out, intelligent life would be a great mechanism to achieve this.

In terms of other forms of life being tested...cant really see the point ( as I cant with Humans) as you wouldnt blame bacteria for giving you a stomach upset; thats what some bacteria do...

Cause and effect and if God was the cause it is also the effect.

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by blupblup

 

Going a bit further on that thought, what if We are (all together) God? I have to tell you that when you delve deeply into the occult teachings, you begin to feel like you are God. Some scientists have also said this.

The collective consciousness.... for sure.

Maybe that is the meaning and purpose of our existence?

To get to a point where we all live together in unity and we advance our race to the point of enlightenment, no petty squabbles, no divisions, no borders and no hatred.

Would be nice.

And yes, there is a lot of good info about in many books... but you do have to search it out.

reply to post by Jukiodone


Like we are some kinda holofractogamic bio-feedback system, and awareness or consciousness is infinitely expressed. Even at an elemental or quantum level, awareness is expressed.

We're all entangled anyway.

What is to be learned is what inspires oneself. Who knows where that oneself ends and the other begins.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by wylee]

Lately a student asked me
If you don't believe in god will you go to hell, or a lower realm?
This got me thinking...

What if GOD was all of them (Buddha/Allah/Mohammad/Jesus Christ - and all the GODS prior to the mainstream gods), and its a test to see if you can bypass differences and truly become one with all.

I think you hit the big one with this(!), but there is one pro'lem here... these aren't all GODs
but the 'Prophets' were yes all pointing to the 0ne GOD of Unity!

As concerns the students' question... "hell" is just stupidity, but
if you don't 'base-life' unto some 'goal' then yes you'll 'arrive' upon a 'base nature'!