Saudis fund Balkan Muslims spreading hate of the West

Saudis fund Balkan Muslims spreading hate of the West

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SAUDI ARABIA is pouring hundreds of millions of pounds into Islamist groups in the Balkans, some of which spread hatred of the West and recruit fighters for jihad in Afghanistan.

According to officials in Macedonia, Islamic fundamentalism threatens to destabilise the Balkans. Strict Wahhabi and Salafi factions funded by Saudi organisations are clashing with traditionally moderate local Muslim communities.

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Fundamentalists have financed the construction of scores of mosques and community centres as well as handing some followers up to £225 a month. They are expected not only to grow beards but also to persuade their wives to wear the niqab, or face veil, a custom virtually unknown in the liberal Islamic tradition of the Balkans.

Classified documents seen by The Sunday Times reveal that Macedonian officials are also investigating a number of Islamic charities, some in Saudi Arabia, which are active throughout the Balkans and are suspected of spreading extremism and laundering money for terrorist organisations.

“Hundreds of millions have been poured into Macedonia alone in the past decade and most of it comes from Saudi Arabia,” said a government source. “The Saudis’ main export seems to be ideology, not oil.”

Ironically enough, this state sponsor of terrorism we consider to be an ally. The fact that they pretend not to be hostile towards us is because of their pathetically weak Royal House, which would tumble down instantly without the protection that the US provides as well as Iran being a mutual arch-rival.

I wish that countries would follow the example set by Russia: it's fine if you want to build Mosques in Moscow, but in exchange we will build Russian Orthodox churches in Saudi-Arabia, which they obviously didn't allow.

They export oil and extremism. This is a serious threat, which should be dealt with. If they needed to wage war so badly, they should have overthrown the Saudi regime instead of the Saddam Hussein. Would have saved a lot of money, lives and it would really be effective against terrorism. Saddam Hussein was no threat, the money that Saudi-Arabia spends on terrorism against us, instead, is one hell of threat.



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Originally posted by Mdv2
They export oil and extremism. This is a serious threat, which should be dealt with. If they needed to wage war so badly, they should have overthrown the Saudi regime instead of the Saddam Hussein.
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Here here! I totally agree.

Why are we attacking our former allies when we should be attacking these obviously hostile countries acting against our interests? Israel and Saudi Arabia should be the targets of the war on terror not Iraq or Afghanistan.

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Wholeheartedly agree with that. The Taliban regime is a significant nuisance to the Afghan people, but it was not more than a rogue regime that did not form a threat to the West. Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq with an iron fist too, yet he was far from capable to be of the slightest danger to us while the source of this so-called terrorism (Bin Laden, Al Qaeda) goes free, without even a single word of criticism, which is remarkable so to say.

When the majority of conspiracy theorists have taken their stern, unwavering gaze off Israel, they will come to realise just how much of a threat Saudi Arabia poses. When you consider the power, influence (in the international community) and resources available, SA is a very big player with lots of potential to become a future Superpower.

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Israel is more like a parasite, which exploits its relationship with America greatly for its own sake, and at the expense of the American people. This is indirectly harmful in a way that it stimulates hatred among Muslims against Americans and America's interests. Saudi-Arabia is playing a very dirty game too - pretending they favor the West while secretly supporting terrorist cells which have us on their cross-hairs.

Originally posted by Mdv2
Israel is more like a parasite, which exploits its relationship with America greatly for its own sake, and at the expense of the American people. This is indirectly harmful in a way that it stimulates hatred among Muslims against Americans and America's interests. Saudi-Arabia is playing a very dirty game too - pretending they favor the West while secretly supporting terrorist cells which have us on their cross-hairs.

Saudi Arabia has the resources, connections and worldwide influence to turn the whole world into an Islamic Theocracy. Even with America's support Israel does not have that kind of power.

what i find ironic with this whole story is why should we all be surprised bout it?

bosnia was never a country, just like kosovo...never previouslu existed....they were just states of jugoslavia.

BUT because it was convinient for the USA and it suited their foreign policy at the time, the US turned a blind eye to all the Mujahadeen warriors pouring into Bosnia during the balkan conflicts because they were on the same side at the time, same thing with afghanistan and supporting the mujahadeen against the soviets in the 80's, the same with supporting drug trafficking criminal gangs in kosovo that make up the leadership of the crap-hole of an excuse for a nation, just to satisfy corrupt and double standardise US foreihn policy.

you reap what you sow, it might not bite you in 10 years but it sure will after that.

I don't even know what to say on this.... fundamentalists? All this crapola because of black ooze...

They are doing it AGAIN.

One time they did this, with the help of the US department of education, in the 70s, IN PAKISTAN.

Remember this? Yeah. The aid built THOUSANDS of madrasah TEACHING MUSLIM EXTREMISM in Pakistan. AND THEY ARE STILL THERE TODAY.

Of course at first it was to brainwash pakistani muslims so they would go fight communists in Afghanistan... but guess what? That extremist litterature didn't disapear after the soviets were defeated. They printed more and more.

What happened? Ah yes, Pakistan turned into a perfect environment for extremists to recruit, turning Afghanistan into what it was in the 80s-90s-00s and most of the problems we have today.

Thanks a bunch Saudi Arabia! And they are our ally! HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Star and Flag!
I am from Montenegro, an ex member of SFRJugoslavija, Yugoslavia, Serbia and Montenegro and now private country of Milo Djukanovic, Montenegro. Or just Balkan if you like...

The reason I chose to post is that I want to tell you how these things work.
When you have money, you buy things or bribe.
When you have a lot of money, you buy things others cant....
Here, with enough money, you buy cities. When you do that, you slowly take key positions and begin your influence. Start changing people's habits, language, beliefs etc... It takes time, but you conquer bit a bit of land without a shot fired. Montenegro is one of the poorest and most expensive region. So money does wonders! You can not do a lot with 200 euro's per month when everything is pricey....
So, a rich guy comes in and if he gives you money, you gotta do something for him. Anything, anytime.
So, here we have 3 cities bought, Tuzi near capital Podgorica, Bar and Budva on the adriatic coast... More soon to follow.
You move in your people, you slowly move native people elsewhere...
That's how Serbia's Kosovo got into Albanian Kosovo. People were either selling their property to Albanians or were forcefully expelled due to violent KLA forces.
War is becomming a thing of the past, although there are still some dudes in uniforms who like to fire a bullet or two from kalashnikovs, nowadays it's BUSINESS.... Car rentals, hotels, casinos, bars, disco, and people PAY for that....
Billions of dollars? They can buy the WHOLE Serbia and Montenegro, and still would have half a billion in reserve...
There is no need for war, S&M DO NOT have any military at all after NATO illegal bombing, when "democratic" politicians took over, they destroyed all anti air weapons, tanks, rifles, boats, etc... Less than 1000 soldiers with equipment from Cold War ain't much of a military....

Just my 0.02 euros....
Respect

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isnt it a well known fact that Saudi basicaly own large parts of the US,
they have poured billions into the country.

and they have shown they are imune aswell to laws when britain dropped legal proceeding aginst them.

the enemy of my enemy is my friend
thats what the US seems to do over history

Afganistan has shown that, Korea has shown that, pakistan has shown that and so on.

Under cover of a sudden interest in developing new green technologies, the Israeli government hopes to weaken the Gulf states by making their oil redundant and thereby defeating 'Islamic terror'.

Uzi Landau, the national infrastructures minister, outlined a vision of a world without oil this week to Israel’s most loyal supporters in Washington as he searched for wealthy American-Jewish investors and White House support for the strategy.

His message was that: “The West is addicted to oil, and so is bound by states that support terrorism … Whoever wants to fight radical Islam and terrorist organizations should know that by purchasing gasoline, he's giving terrorists increased motivation.”

Analysts say the plan’s chief goals are to cripple the large oil-producing Gulf states, particularly Iran, which is seen as Israel’s main rival in the region, and resistance groups that oppose Israel’s long-term occupation of Palestinian land.

“Israel hopes that by repackaging the ‘war on terror’ in this way it can gain sympathy in the West and deflect increasing expectations that it make concessions to solve the conflict with the Palestinians,” said Avner de Shalit, a politics professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

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Without Arab money from oil, Mr Landau argued, Iran would fade as a regional power and “terror groups” like Hamas in Gaza and Hizbullah in Lebanon would cease to exist. Instead Israel could serve as an alternative “powerhouse” in the Middle East for environmentally friendly energy sources.

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Israel is right - We are hostage to oil from extremist regimes like Saudi-Arabia. Regimes that hate us for the way we live. The mere reason they pretend to be friendly is the fact that we have the money for the only valuable asset they have in their deserts. Once they run out of oil, they will start killing each other as regional relations between Arab countries are worse than most people think.

Israel has little left to offer the West. Yes, they are still of strategic importance, but it has finally become clear to the military that the current relationship does more damage to the US than good, which is why Israel needs another card to play into the game.

A card that does not just benefit the West, but also cripples the importance of pretty much the entire Middle East. From a purely objective point of view, it seems to me as the most effective and sustainable strategy for Israel to secure its right of existence. Now I do not like that they seek to deflect ''increasing expectations that it make concessions to solve the conflict with the Palestinians,'' but losing our dependence on the Middle East by finding alternatives to oil would definitely be very positive.

If oil would become redundant, these state sponsoring terrorist regimes would tumble down and greatly reduce the threat of expanding extremism.

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Yeah... it appears the difference between a terrorist and friend is oil! Who would have ever thought eh!

IRM :shk:

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Ohhh wait wait, just wait, you don't suppose the West spreads hate towards them? WOW which world are you living in ..

I'm spreading hate against West too, go read some of my posts, and Russia too.. I think they are both terrorists, worst than the weak, unequipped terrorists from the deserts and mountains they are pretending to fight.

Get back to reality before you go too deep and become a tool of imaginary figures ..

Saudi is US's best freind for some reason even though the root of all terrorism originates from Saudi.

On top of that Saudi gets the most advanced millitary tech after israel.

Oil and planting permanent millitary bases are more important for US i guess.But than at the end of the day the whole 'war on terror' business was planned from the start.

US ain't stupid though, they know exactly what they doing.It's both short term and long term gain.

The rest are all Pawns.

Oh just stfu. It is you (serbians/montenegrins) who came from the Carpats (BeloRussia/Russia/Ukraine) to OUR lands and SLAUGHTERED us, and now you use the big boogeyman "the islamic fundamentalists" because no one is buying your lies anymore ... just cut the crap.
A perfect example is my nation, where we lived FOR CENTURIES without ever one single problem - a nation comprised of muslims, catholics and orthodox christians.

Where are those "fundamentalists" then - I sure as hell don't know ONE of them, and I come from the vicinity of Tuzi.

Isn't it ironic how the US helped fund the Taliban to drive off the Russians, and the same is happening to them? This should show the people that money rules the political scene and nothing more. The elite are simply trying to depopulate and hoard all the oil reserves for themselves.

This should show how allies are only good if they feed you their "heroin".