Where were the opponets to Obama when Bush stole the White house.

I'm sick of hearing the birthers saying Obama is illegimate due to the GOP's propaganda of him being Kenyan, a socialist, against the constitution... Where are you when Bush stole the election... Where were you when Jeb Bush said that florida would win the election in a democratic republic? Where were you when we invaded Iraq over WMD's? Where were you when the we invade afghanistan?

Are you truley for slaughtering entire families in the name of protecting are homeland? Do you agree with Isreal with American support killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims? Are you for torture?

I am anti-american you say... no I am pro human... Health care is something we all deserve... Not just the rich... I am ashamed of all this... are you?

I am a human and believe all humans are the same and deserve the same rights... where where you leftist when we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians? Saying they deserved it?

Bush is more evil than Obama could ever be... flame me now

No, smart people just ignore left/right dem/repub paradigm rhetoric.

Explain Patriot Act 2, Rendition still happening, opium field protection, gitmo, afghanistan, iraq, etc etc etc.

Bush=Obama

This is what health care is about!

Any questions?

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Hi Jesusphish,

I have no flame... I am sure some one will light you up , seems to be the way lately.....

On topic:
If you use the not so popular search feature, you will see most were right here talking about the criminal acts he (Bush) was engaging our nation in, we were round tabling over the patriot act... were you at the party?

No sarcastic intent

I think everyone is just a little tired of the whole justify Pres. Obama's actions by showing Bush's were worse tactics...Just remember, because people do not accept Pres Obama's actions does not align them with Pres Bush. We learned a while ago it's ok to oppose both sides of an issue.

Don't let them get ya down, fight the good fight brother, just be able to accept what you define as 'good' may not coincide with everyone else.



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Who is in power now? Bush is bad and so is Obama did you ever think they might be on the same side? And the whole stage show they put on is to keep power forever and that neither one of them truly had any power.


But I guess it is much easier to just point a finger and say well look how bad he was. Does this help you look towards the future by living in the past? It is like comparing the lesser of two evils. But unless you see that once you start comparing you have already missed the point.

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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
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Who is in power now? Bush is bad and so is Obama did you ever think they might be on the same side? And the whole stage show they put on is to keep power forever and that neither one of them truly had any power.


But I guess it is much easier to just point a finger and say well look how bad he was. Does this help you look towards the future by living in the past? It is like comparing the lesser of two evils. But unless you see that once you start comparing you have already missed the point.

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and glenn Beck - the TV man who is at the fore front of your revolution works for the man WHO LEGITIMIZED BUSH'S AGENDA

Doesn't such a fact strike you at all???

What does it mean?

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Actually Jesusphish, I am now confused... I read one of your posts in which you wrote:

Obama the great, the messiah, the fraud.

When Obama began his campaign I did believe he could be the next JFK. I did not vote for him but I did have some hope that my feelings about him could be true... It took about three months of him being in office to realize he was not only the same as Bush but worse.

Yet in this thread you say:

Bush is more evil than Obama could ever be... flame me now

I am so confused....

Originally posted by Haiku
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Actually Jesusphish, I am now confused... I read one of your posts in which you wrote:

Obama the great, the messiah, the fraud.

When Obama began his campaign I did believe he could be the next JFK. I did not vote for him but I did have some hope that my feelings about him could be true... It took about three months of him being in office to realize he was not only the same as Bush but worse.

Yet in this thread you say:

Bush is more evil than Obama could ever be... flame me now

I am so confused....

What, is this a Satan/ Cobra commander pissing contest?

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
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Who is in power now? Bush is bad and so is Obama did you ever think they might be on the same side? And the whole stage show they put on is to keep power forever and that neither one of them truly had any power.


But I guess it is much easier to just point a finger and say well look how bad he was. Does this help you look towards the future by living in the past? It is like comparing the lesser of two evils. But unless you see that once you start comparing you have already missed the point.

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and glenn Beck - the TV man who is at the fore front of your revolution works for the man WHO LEGITIMIZED BUSH'S AGENDA

Doesn't such a fact strike you at all???

What does it mean?

When did I say anything about a revolution? And do you have some kind of hang up with Glen Beck. Please do not derail this thread with your nonsense.


You really need to read my posts about revolution. Learn about me before you attack me and when you do please bring your "A" game. I am starting to think arguing with you is like playing cards with my sisters kids.

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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by Haiku
reply to post by iamjesusphish

 

Actually Jesusphish, I am now confused... I read one of your posts in which you wrote:

Obama the great, the messiah, the fraud.

When Obama began his campaign I did believe he could be the next JFK. I did not vote for him but I did have some hope that my feelings about him could be true... It took about three months of him being in office to realize he was not only the same as Bush but worse.

Yet in this thread you say:

Bush is more evil than Obama could ever be... flame me now

I am so confused....

What, is this a Satan/ Cobra commander pissing contest?

What exactly does this have to do with this post or are you just about making personal attacks and trolling tonight. Make a argument so I can show you the error of your ways.

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I am not sure if I am being sucker punched by that statement, I would rather like to think not, but let me explain...

I m not trying to derail or take away validity from the thread, but,
I am one of those people who 'try' to understand the point of view that he OP's are employing... that way, maybe my own point of view can be broadened. These two posts seem like a direct contradiction, and makes it hard for me to get a hand on the message the OP is intending to send....

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Holy Shnikies brother, let's bring it to a calm place... I am attacking no one... My post was in no way demeaning, I simply want to understand what creates the waxing and waning of the author's mind set. That is how we learn from each other, by asking questions and delving into the thought put behind these threads. If I wanted to take what I read with no further insight to it's purpose, I would pick up a washington post...

I would absolutely give you the opportunity to show me the error of my ways... for they are many, and I do enjoy the growth of mind

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You need to read it agian I have no problem with you but Janky Red is another matter. And I am calm and calculted with my words that is why they seem so strong.

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Originally posted by iamjesusphish
Where are you when Bush stole the election... Where were you when Jeb Bush said that florida would win the election in a democratic republic? Where were you when we invaded Iraq over WMD's? Where were you when the we invade afghanistan?

Saying that Bush stole the election, but no one listened. Asking why we were in Iraq when we were supposed to be after bin Laden, but no one listened.

Are you truley for slaughtering entire families in the name of protecting are homeland?

No, I am however completely for holding those who attack our country and/or our people responsible. No free passes for that, sorry.

Do you agree with Isreal with American support killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims?

Huh? What exactly are you talking about? What does Israel have to do with Bush stealing the White House or Obama being a wolf in sheeps clothing?

Are you for torture?

Depends on the circumstances and what exactly we're talking about with the word 'torture'. Under normal circumstances? Nope, I think it's despicable. Under the right set of circumstances such as my child being kidnapped and the person in front of me being the only one who knows where they are but refusing to tell me? Quite possibly if I think it'll get them to talk.

I am anti-american you say... no I am pro human... Health care is something we all deserve... Not just the rich... I am ashamed of all this... are you?

Ashamed of what, exactly? Ashamed of that travesty of a health bill? Absolutely.

I am a human and believe all humans are the same and deserve the same rights...

And I believe that under some circumstances some humans cease deserving all the same rights as the rest of us. Murderers and rapists for example don't come close to deserving the same rights you and I are enjoying at the moment. Namely our freedom to pretty much do as we please within reason.

where where you leftist when we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians? Saying they deserved it?

I don't believe you meant to say leftist since Obama is a leftist. The word you're looking for is right-wing or something equivalent. And who is this 'we' that killed all these civilians? I've never killed anyone, let alone a civilian. Pray tell who ever says innocent civilians deserve to be killed? Aside from psycho's and murderers, that is.

Bush is more evil than Obama could ever be... flame me now

Neither of them are good for this country, but it's a bit early to start measuring Obama on the evil scale don't you think? How about we wait till his first term is up at least and then decide where he falls on the chart? I can't stand the man or his politics, but I try to be fair about it. All out of flames though, sorry.

alright gotta clear something up... I am not pro Obama... I was just trying to point out the right wing view of America at the moment is totally warped and they seem to have memory loss... I know they are all the same and working for the corporations and not the people....

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Sorry man... i do not like Obama just saying he is not as evil as bush... emanuel though.... thats not so cut and dry