Pet regulations on the way?

Are these people serious? A dog is worse on the environment than an SUV?

It's already almost at the point where to buy an animal will require a license. Especially thanks to these exotic pet scare episodes we see. Recycle pets through pounds. Requiring shots, and certificates.

Soon all stray animals will be outlawed, and you will need a license to have a pet?

Go figure, this from New Zealand...

They've already tryed pet liscences here in the UK and it does'nt work. All it will do is flood animal shelters and overload the places whre they put them down. From people who dont have the liscence.

Its impossible to enforce. If you get caught in a park with a dog. All you have to say is its not yours and they then have to prove it is.

Its all silly really.

My old roommate was once served a bench warrant for ..... walking an unlicensed dog in the park. She refused to deal with it, and sometime later she was stopped for speeding. When her dastardly deed came up on the computer, the cop left her go. Even he knew it was insanity!

Wait what? Carbon paw print? How do people take this serious? Did wolves walk the earth since the dawn of mammals with no paws?

This is just low. They will try to blame anything on "carbon emissions" for this false crusade called global warming. Man, people sure love to make unnecessary battles against invisible enemies. Terrorism, then global warming. Whats next people?

The carbon issue, whichIi've read in article a while ago seems like it's more propaganda aginst owing companion animals.

Many cities in America allow about 3 to 4 at the most of any one species in your home, or none at all when renting certain places. Many also require a license for pets, other requires the license, fixing and vaccinations each year. I can see in some city settings where animal overpopulation is a huge problem and same with disease, as it's to help control issues.


As an EX., A couple years ago when I was in California park I witnessed someone getting a ticket because their pet didn't have a pet license.

However, if every aspect of the benefits of owning an animal in your home, is deemed as a 'pollutant' and not help to the person... wether it be because they have no children, helps them relieve stress, service animal, friend, and or gives an elderly person a companion and a healthier life or to help a child grow and learn about the world around them and compassion...more animals will loose homes and the euthanasia rates will once again increase. For the first time in a long time euth. rates have went down= more pets have been given homes.

When you have a country such as America that kills eight million dogs and cats a year simply because they do not have enough homes and yet people keep allowing their dogs and cats to reproduce YES YOU NEED REGULATION.

With eight million gassings and needle deaths per year it is evident people are not able to regulate themselves

WARNING GRAPHIC SHOWS WHAT HAPPENS AT SHELTERS TO UNWANTED ANIMALS






Adoption should be the only option! Don't buy while shelter animals die!

If you support a pet shop or breeder than you indirectly cause this. No on the fence on this one.

I got a pure bred beautiful pointer that was 48 hours away from being "put down".

To kill eight million dogs and cats a year and keep breeding more is INSANE.

They have no voice, no vote.

Don't like the truth - Yep the truth of reality is a real twitch but this is happening

Spay - Neuter - Adopt

Stupid, well the carbon pawprint thing is anyway.

All dogs and cats should be licensed though, practical or not.

Unlike most humans I have encountered, a dog will never betray you.

Love you whether you are rich or poor, fat or thin, pretty or ugly, a janitor or CEO.

Dogs have more morals and loyalty than most humans.

They don't drive cars, run air conditioners, central heating (in large empty office buildings), etc.

Man leaves the biggest carbon print with his factory farming and wastefulness.

Maybe a NWO would be a good idea.

People can't seem to regulate their own population nor the population of their companion animals.

Most people are so stupid they simply cannot regulate themselves in most areas of their life which includes, their eating, drinking, drugs, population of both themselves and their "pets" nor taking care of our Mother Earth.

We are spoiled, wasteful and disrespectful.

As a species mankind sucks.

Carbon print, man is like a cancer and ruining our once beautiful planet and abusing his/her power over the other inhabitants that we share this third rock from a medium size sun with.

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Oh my f***ing god ....

Thats it the next pound worker i see will get a rock in his head from me ....



We are loosing it, we are loosing everything and destroying ourselves and taking a lot with us...

And how the hell does a cat or a dog give out more CO2 than a human, a human gives more CO2 out when he breathes than a dog ....

And just to give you a story: a dog of mine escaped and ran, and after 3 days i went to collect her from the pund but the worker there wanted me to show an ID that the dog was mine and i told that jackass that it was a stray that i took into my home and that i've had her for over a year but he didn't believe me and just to make things worse he sent her to be killed just 1 minute later as i was there, 30 minutes later i saw her body taken away in a bin... Oh how i wish i could find where that SOAB lives and pay him a friendly nazi style visit.

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Yeah, I feel you.

But how do you enforce that regulation?

Without sending cops door to door to search, confiscate and neuter no regulation is going to make any difference.

Ban or regulate shops, okay, so what will happen when those shops are all replaced by backwoods puppy mills pumping out trendy mutts like peekapoos and labradoodles to yuppies?

They'll have to go around like the days of prohibition kicking in doors left and right.

A black market for these animals isnt going to be any better for them.

The best thing anyone can do is to educate people and urge them to adopt and neuter. Laws and regs wont do anything to prevent anything. Only the consumer can change the way things are done.

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It is not the poor pound worker that makes minimum wage, goes home every night and drinks and takes drugs to forget the sentence he/she must carry out. I knew one who drank excessively, took drugs and ended his life by putting a pistol in his mouth.

It was the only job he could get and he hated it.

When you pay a pet shop or breeder, they make more puppies/kittens and the cycle continues.

When a country kills eight million dogs/cats a year yet continues to make more IT'S INSANE.

DO NOT BUY - ADOPT. If everyone for just a few years adopted/rescued instead of giving money over to the "breeders" we could drastically reduce this nightmare.

The pound workers are simply carrying out what must be done because so many people (humans) are not getting their pets spayed or neutered.

If nobody bought puppy mill puppies or "breeder dogs" and everyone adopted this problem would end.

My last three dogs were all "throw aways" all were death row doggies and each one is a treasure. My last one lived with us for 15 years and died at 18-20 years of age.

Lucy, due to arrive any week now from Pointers Rescue - Maine, was shut up in a cage for 5-6 years and used as a puppy machine. Whoever bought her puppies supported the guy in Georgia that kept her in a cage for six years on a automatic feeding and watering system. Only giving her contact when it was time to "mate" and make more puppies for $$$$$$$$$$$$$

The guys in Georgia and many of the southern states (We seem to have a real problem with "southern gentlemen" that use and abuse their hunting dogs. Go to PointersRescue.org or German Shorthaired Pointers Rescue and see how many of our hunting dogs are coming out of the southern states.

The very dogs that have hunted along side of man since he began to hunt. The dogs that sniff bombs, help our elderly and handicap, search for drugs, find bodies in earthquakes and other disasters.

This is how we treat a species that has proven time and time again to be our best friend. Many have taken a bullet knowingly protecting their "partner".

Breeders use em, abuse em and throw them away like a dirty piece of paper - like a thing.

Again, it's not the poor slob who has to do this work it is each and every single person that supports these breeders by handing over their money for that cute little doggie in the window.

Breeders and puppy mills breed out of greed. And for you hotsy totsy breeders out there - don't bs me about "we do it to improve the breed" BS - you do it for the money and are a part of the problem of over pet population too.

You are either a part of this problem or the solution.

Looking the other way, pretending this doesn't exist when we are talking eight million entities, not just "dogs and cats" but living beings.

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I am sorry for your loss.

Odie was a "stray" - When you get a stray take them to a good vet, register them, microchip them and make sure they are wearing a collar with all their health tags.

Again, that worker, did you dirty.

Most workers I've met are dedicated and trying like hell to save these dogs.

Dogs and cats by law are not considered beings they are considered legal property, but only if you register them with a vet in the proper manner.

No health certificates, rabie and ID tags = stray with no owner, from a legal point of view.

When we got Odie, he was a stray - I had his butt at the vets the very next morning to get neutered, all his shots, rabie tags, everything.

A Home Again Microchip costs around $50.00 and is about the size of a grain of rice.

That really sucks - and in your case, after reading your story - I would have helped you kill that worker with my bare hands for what he/she allowed to happen to your dog.

I am really sorry for the loss of your companion..............I don't like the term "pet".

My next rescue - Lucy.

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Let someone try to have taken my Odie and he would have had to fight me to the death. Always make sure your companion is wearing a collar with their rabie, ID and any other official %rap they have to have on them at all times.

Nobody better lay a hand on my Lucy - I am normally a very nice, gentle, kind law abiding person but you mess with my dog and you are messing with me.

My sweet beloved Odie we had for 15 short years. (He was 4-5 when we got him)

1990 -1992 to July 12, 2010

ps: Our vet asked us how we came across this "throw away dog" He said, Odie was show quality, top of the line Pointer.


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Simple: Nobody buy any dog or cat from a pet shop or breeder period.

Go to your local Shelter or online if you want a particular breed. Many many many breed rescue sites to choose from, also PetSmart and the ASPCA.

DON'T SUPPORT PET SHOPS/BREEDERS - ADOPT/RESCUE.

And once you bring your companion home, make that vet appointment and make sure you have all the legalities completed.

Make sure your "pet" wears their collar complete with all their health tags.

Again, boy anyone mess with my dog and I would kill them with my bare hands, seriously.

And I am a nice old lady (normally).

Reply to post by ofhumandescent

That would be the regulation not the enforcement.

How would you enforce it? 24/7 surveillance of every human being?

The entire federal government couldn't keep booze out of peoples hands and can't now keep drugs out of peoples hands. It's ally easier to run a mill than it is to smuggle drugs.

Seems like the regulation would just be more useless nonsense on paper.

Nobody should buy from shops or mills sure. But laws and regs won't stop that. Only education.


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In my opinion if you BUY a dog or cat, instead of adopting, you are NOT a dog/cat/animal lover AT ALL. You are in fact the enemy of them. I can understand very few situations where buying a dog would be warranted, such as a guard dog, seeing eye dog, hunting dog, etc.

But if you are getting a dog or cat just as a pet and companion, act like a true dog/cat lover and adopt them. You are in effect killing a cat or dog in the process of buying one, because that's one more homeless cat/dog that gets put down because you just want some status symbol purebred. How selfish.

I've had 4 cats, first one was adopted, second was a stray I took in, third was taken from a family that didn't want it and was abusing it, and the 4th was from a litter of kittens from someone who didn't have their cats fixed and never took care of them. All of these animals faced a horrible future if I didn't take them, so being an animal lover I jumped at the chance. I just don't get how people who proclaim they are a dog/cat lover can basically condemn a dog/cat to suffering just because they are too selfish to adopt one.

Sorry for the rant, it just pisses me off that people's vanity is more important than the lives of dogs and cats.

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One of our "throw aways" was a Shepard Husky mix named Sinbad (St. Sinbad).

At the time, my son was involved in a gang (Yes we were good parents, suburban, did everything by the book, this kid has always been a pain in the arse since before birth).

Anyway, this untrained throw away (92 pounds/big boy) was lounging on the couch.

A knock at the door, my husband went to answer it. Sinbad lunged down the stairs ahead of my husband and placed himself between my husband and this young man and for the first and only time I saw this sweet, gentle, loving dog bare his 2 inch teeth and let out a growl that would have made Hulk Hogan poop his pants.

I believe Sinbad (St. Sinbad) smelled a gun pure and simple.

The kid was going to ask to see my son but after taking a look at Sinbad, who clearly was telling this kid, you take one, just one inch of a step closer to my pack and you are history - the kid left real quick.

Sinbad, never trained, never ever aggressive, went back upstairs and laid at my husband's feet - gentle as ever.

He knew, he smelled something, he knew something was up and was ready to defend us.

My sweet big gentle giant.

A "throw away" dog is usually very grateful - they know you saved them and they will give their life without question to safeguard yours.

You can always take a "throw away" "kill shelter" dog to a training class. You can teach a old dog new tricks - it may take a little work and yes, like humans, some dogs are dumber - but I've lucked out - all my dogs except Pudgy who is buried in the back yard (ran out the door when the mailman came, chased and caught a car) were smart.

My death row doggies were really smart. And very protective of us.

Need a guard dog - again go to a pound. They usually kill the biggest ones first.

When we got Sinbad he was 7 - we had him for only 5-6 years. He had heartworm which costs us $400.00 upfront.

Now, if he had gone to the pound, at 92 pounds, 7 years old and with heartworm - he would have been put on death row immediately and he was a saint. A truly wonderful dog. (He's also in my bottom drawer and will be buried with us). Max the second pug with him lived to 12 and was a "breeder dog" loveable but he didn't have the thinking ability Sinbad had. Sinbad was really smart and wise.

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And to anyone reading this that uses a dog for dog fighting or abuses any animal - may your soul rot in eternal hell

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well if humans feel the need to take life out of its natural enviorment so they can claim ownership to it due to their desire to have one, then the least they can do is look after them properly. anything that prevents humans just thinking they can take and through away life when ever it suits sounds fair to me.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


You are absolutely correct. I starred your post.

Only education of the public.

SPAY - NEUTER - ADOPT / RESCUE.

Do not support pet shops or breeders - they are only using dogs and cats for money. No matter the bs they feed you............adopt a stray, a deathrow doggie/kittie.

I promise you, you will have their gratitude and know that in your heart in a small way you made a difference.

Also, for folks that find it hard to make friends - a dog or kitty will love you. They will never double cross you, they will never betray you (even if they could I don't think they would).

Yes I am passionate about the dog and cat over population and killing of eight million unwanted, unloved animals a year.

Everyone deserves a nice clean warm soft bed and a hook to hang their coat/hat on.

I myself can only afford to rescue one dog.

Can you also help and rescue just one dog or kitty from a kill shelter? Just one.

Keep in mind, this is like adopting a child, it is a lifetime committment. But, on your death bed you can say, I made a difference for at least one additional creature - I saved one entity from a useless death.

That's got to add to your karma.

So many dogs and cats on death row - so few homes.

**** the breeders and pet shop owners with their greed - adopt, rescue make a difference. You thus become a hero to at least one entity.

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Then read Dominon by by Matthew Scully.

Second line.