Why the Annunaki need gold

reply to post by kaleshchand


We WERE the "robots". They created us through several trial and error efforts. By using their genes and splicing them with the various primates on earth, the human race was born. Why use a mechanical machine when you can create a flesh one that can reason and think for itself and reproduce on it's own? That was a win/win for them.

reply to post by Gseven


Then why no sign of any mining? Large human habitations near said mines and signs that the most productive gold fields found in the 18-20th century were untouched?

reply to post by Hanslune


I haven't read ALL the information on this theory, but what I have read is enough for me to raise my eyebrow more than once. The Sumerian ancient texts are very real. We would either, A.) have to completely discount these as a work of fiction in it's time, which is HIGHLY improbably since multiple civilizations across the globe tell of the same stories, or B.) take it into account that it is a very real part of our human history.

To date, it is the ONLY story that comes even remotely close to tying all the religious texts together from every corner of the planet, along with mythology, UFO's, aliens/watchers, giants, and all the other business that individual religions don't come close to trying to explain. Is it any more difficult to believe than any given religion with open ended statements and vast areas of texts that leave an awful lot to the imagination of the reader? The Bible clearly, to me, reads a lot like science fiction, regardless if I look at it from a strict Christian standpoint, or a world view that takes into consideration all the information available. I want the WHOLE story, not just a part of it!! If it means I have to consider a story that is difficult to believe, so be it....the one we've been given is already difficult to believe.

I was raised Baptist...all this is heresy, according to how I was raised. I left the Baptist religion and adopted a non-denominational faith in order to "free" myself to look at Biblical texts for more than what my religion said they were. These texts are telling the same stories that the Sumerians told. Is it so hard to believe that we were created for a purpose that was meant to serve our creators?

Have you ever asked yourself why "sacrifices" were required, (and STILL given to this day)?

Have you ever asked yourself why it's possible that the virgin Mary could miraculously pop up pregnant after an angel visited her, but not consider that the angel was an other worldly being that artificially inseminated her?

Have you ever asked yourself how it's possible that the oldest structures on the planet can't be duplicated by today's modern machinery, yet thousands of years ago, they not only did it, but did it all over the planet?

Have you ever asked yourself why every religion talks about flying crafts, chariots of fire, nuclear type bombs destroying entire cities, people and animals turning to dust/stone, and so on? Have you ever asked yourself how it's possible that scientists have discovered evidence of nuclear explosions in these very regions that ancient texts talk about nuclear war?

To consider that we were created in the "image" of God to mine gold for them is nothing compared to all the other evidence already located on our planet. Look at what WE do, for God's sake!! We take animals, breed them selectively to bring out certain traits, (or inhibit undesired ones), and make them more productive to our needs....chickens, cows, dogs, horses, you name it! There are some humans who mistreat animals, and yet there are others who fight to free them, or at least diligently love and care for them. Is it really that hard of a stretch to consider that our "gods" were the same way with us? Some wanted to abuse us, and others wanted to care for and love us. I believe there is still a war going on for the ownership of the human population.

Will the Sumerians return? Are they already here? What do they want? Will they kill us? Will they capture us? Will they enslave us? Or will they bring peace? Will they love us like their children?

I really don't think that the debate is about whether or not we were created to mine gold for a bunch of alien gods. I think the debate is more about where they went and when will they return....and when they do, what will happen? The evidence to the former is far to overwhelming to ignore.

Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
How y'all doing? I'm no expert at all on the Sumerian legends and the like so if I'm wrong on anything please feel free to point out.

Anyways the main thing I heard about the Annunaki was that humans were created to mine gold for them, to me this never really made sense, why would they need the gold for? But then today I read this story...

For one tiny second the laws of physics are broken

The main point of this was this:

When the gold nuclei, traveling at 99.999% of the speed of light, smashed together, the plasma that resulted was so energetic that a tiny cube of it with sides measuring about a quarter of the width of a human hair would contain enough energy to power the entire United States for a year.

This got me thinking, perhaps the Annunaki needed the gold for power? Maybe they could break it down to the particles and use the ridiculous power it generated to power their planet, I don't know fly their ships do whatever, the possibilities are endless and would certainly explain their need for it... Anyways just a theory but I'd love to hear some ideas on this from Niburu believers and scientists alike.

But in the end even if it's nothing, the story is still cool, seriously something so small generating so much power could either kill us all or save us all.

They are who created humanity. Don't listen to music, article in Cosmo. Do not watch the television are avenues of evil and brutish, fallen angels, and lucifer.

One of ..angels.. showed me the Holy City, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God. Pots and pans and furniture are gold, McDonald's I love that place they have good golden juicy hamburgers. Origin of divide and impera. My policy is the following: The Aliens will scare us to death (by doing nothing.)

Originally posted by dragonsmusic
I think the idea of it might be too much for people to process though. We were bread to be miners?

That would make us all like the dwarves from the Lord of the Rings. Ever read the history of middle earth, OP? The dwarves were never meant to be created in the first place. They were created by a "lesser" of the god beings from Tolkeins' fantasy.

The "creator" from Tolkein's story was actually upset with the "lesser" god being that the miners had been created in the first place because "they" were not part of the original design. Not trying to get off topic, but that sounds like us to me

"Okay: Dear Coward, we're taking over. We're leading. Overly pious people cannot quote the bible but God smashers quote Tolkien means you are scared. We're going on stupid at incredible speeds. Mickey Mouse is waving a wand and and bubbling lava turns into magic spell monsters. Large black bubbles that swallow smaller black bubbles. Obvious that lesser people of the god read that dribble.

We are living under the leash of baby boomer culture.

Originally posted by Gseven
reply to post by Hanslune

 

I haven't read ALL the information on this theory, but what I have read is enough for me to raise my eyebrow more than once. The Sumerian ancient texts are very real. (snip)

Its the contentions of bogus translators that is the problem

Is it so hard to believe that we were created for a purpose that was meant to serve our creators?

Yes, because there is no evidence that such 'gods' existed or that any of the things Sitchin made up are real

Have you ever asked yourself why "sacrifices" were required, (and STILL given to this day)?

Because early spirit religions assumed that such spirits needed to eat like humans, so an offering way made

Have you ever asked yourself why it's possible that the virgin Mary could miraculously pop up pregnant after an angel visited her, but not consider that the angel was an other worldly being that artificially inseminated her?

Or a guy thought it up because it avoided sex which was sinful and this story would make him seem more godly and fit in with earlier prophecy

Have you ever asked yourself how it's possible that the oldest structures on the planet can't be duplicated by today's modern machinery, yet thousands of years ago, they not only did it, but did it all over the planet?

Sure they can built, but no one wants to spend a few billion to stack up a bunch of stones; we cannot rebuild the fleets that were at Jutland or Trafalgar-does that mean aliens built them?

Have you ever asked yourself why every religion talks about flying crafts, chariots of fire, nuclear type bombs destroying entire cities, people and animals turning to dust/stone, and so on? Have you ever asked yourself how it's possible that scientists have discovered evidence of nuclear explosions in these very regions that ancient texts talk about nuclear war?

No such evidence has been found for nukes, it's made up, people could see birds that could fly and associated it with godly powers many humans would like to be able to fly, etc

To consider that we were created in the "image" of God to mine gold for them is nothing compared to all the other evidence already located on our planet.

No such evidence for this mining has been found, the support for such mining nor any concentration of humans for such mining showing bone stress related to mining

Look at what WE do, for God's sake!! We take animals, breed them selectively to bring out certain traits, (or inhibit undesired ones), (snip)

The evidence shows people living a hunter-gather life style all over much of the earth, no concentrations for mining until later in our development and that as part of cultural specialization

Will the Sumerians return?

Do you mean the Annunaki? Probably not, there is no evidence they existed, the Sumerians are long gone but genetically probably still live in the region of southern Iraq

The evidence to the former is far to overwhelming to ignore.

Not really there isn't such evidence, its either wilful misinterpretation or with Sitchin and later fringe writer deliberate lying and making stuff up

Originally posted by MarkScheppy

Originally posted by dragonsmusic
I think the idea of it might be too much for people to process though. We were bread to be miners?

That would make us all like the dwarves from the Lord of the Rings. Ever read the history of middle earth, OP? The dwarves were never meant to be created in the first place. They were created by a "lesser" of the god beings from Tolkeins' fantasy.

The "creator" from Tolkein's story was actually upset with the "lesser" god being that the miners had been created in the first place because "they" were not part of the original design. Not trying to get off topic, but that sounds like us to me

"Okay: Dear Coward, we're taking over. We're leading. Overly pious people cannot quote the bible but God smashers quote Tolkien means you are scared. We're going on stupid at incredible speeds. Mickey Mouse is waving a wand and and bubbling lava turns into magic spell monsters. Large black bubbles that swallow smaller black bubbles. Obvious that lesser people of the god read that dribble.

We are living under the leash of baby boomer culture.

edit on 29-2-2012 by MarkScheppy because: add

I don't claim to be the internet police or have a license to go around making people be nice because sometimes it is VERY difficult for even myself but gee whiz... can't anyone make a comment just for comparing without being a Tolkien worshiper?

In my opinion, your statement was WAY more ridiculous while even trying to account for the cynicism.

..and the obvious notion that what you REALLY have a problem with is man humbling himself.

I'm not sure if that is healthy at all.

Way to sound like a megalomaniac... yeah, it was THAT obvious. You just TOTALLY rode all over any credible point you could make by exposure of your own agenda.

perhaps you could just admit to yourself that you do have a real underlying agenda and accept the fact that even if people don't come right out and tell, it's going to expose itself. Everyone has an agenda. Do not try to paint your agenda a different color than what it really is because these things show. Try to at least come by your agenda honestly. It's actually a short cut from a to b compared to all the things that people waste their time on like this. I'm afraid that you are really going to wind up feeling at a loss if you put all your chips on throwing your agenda as if you are throwing your voice. you must be a VERY busy person if you have to sit around and construct these things rather than just speaking your true intentions.

Really... you are not mad a Tolkien readers. You are mad at something else. for the sake of your own personal integrity, why don't you just get it all off your chest and tell us what you REALLY feel.

What are you REALLY angry about?

reply to post by BlackSatinDancer


Hey BlackSatinDancer

What the heck is MarkScheppy trying to say?

Originally posted by korathin

For all we know the Annunaki are/where, an early advanced human civilization. It only took us 500-200 years from a dark age to get to were we are now. Imagine a secluded civilization having a good 1,000 years of peace and prosperity? This concept of free trade and sharing knowledge is a very, very, very new concept in Human history. And is really only a trait that is unique to Western Civilization(Celtic/Germanic Civilizations).

The New World Order (naturally fear and superstition based) go towards the degenerate version of the annunaki and not the better ones. And of course Christians today umm..well that is another story. Stand on the shoulder of giants, the school of Athens. Basically we are monsters and we are killers and daily people make that choice to be that way, no alien is waving a wand in front of them to make them be that.

You can not be a successful idiot without becoming professional (particularly the case of the free-trader.)

Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
In my opinion,

Not a goody, we're going to trade off and make concessions. "People in those old times had convictions; we moderns only have opinions and it needs more than a mere opinion to erect a Gothic cathedral.
Heinrich Heine.

Originally posted by Gseven
reply to post by kaleshchand

 

We WERE the "robots". They created us through several trial and error efforts. By using their genes and splicing them with the various primates on earth, the human race was born. Why use a mechanical machine when you can create a flesh one that can reason and think for itself and reproduce on it's own? That was a win/win for them.

And the above is a BELIEF...one that has ZERO facts behind it

Originally posted by MarkScheppy

Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
In my opinion,

Not a goody, we're going to trade off and make concessions. "People in those old times had convictions; we moderns only have opinions and it needs more than a mere opinion to erect a Gothic cathedral.
Heinrich Heine.

I'm allowed to have both conviction and opinion.

What the REAL problem is... is people who have PLENTY of opinion and continue to spread it around with absolutely no conceding that this is all it is.

OPINION.

I won't mention any *ahem* examples.

If I say "in my opinion" it is for those who are simply not intelligent enough to see that I am not trying to shove my opinion down anyone's throat, like some, under the guise of so- called wisdom.

btw... you're "opinion" is showing. If I were you. I'd zip it up.

I do believe there to be other intelligent life out there, but heres the thing that gets me about the whole Annunaki needed gold thing.....

We as humans currently have the technology to manufacture gold in nuclear reactors right now, it's just not cost effective. So the idea that some super advance beings with the technology to engineer new life and that are capable of interstellar, intergalactic, or even interdimensional travel wouldn't have the technology to manufacture gold practically, just never made any sense. Especially if for only the nuclei, so that they could smash them together. It just wouldn't take that much effort from a civilization so far advanced.

However, I was unaware that smashing gold nuclei together resulted in so much energy. So kudos and good post!

reply to post by twistedlogic


Perhaps the "gold" the Annunaki needed actually meant something a little different. The myth is that the Annunaki's sun was dying out and they needed to revive it so they could continue to live on their homeworld. In alchemy, gold is equated to the sun. Highly advanced technology could have been used to get this energy. Since it would be extremely difficult to explain how they did this, they used "gold" as an alchemical metaphor. Maybe the Annunaki used energy from our sun in order to save their own?

Just a thought.

Originally posted by Nurelic
reply to post by twistedlogic

 

Perhaps the "gold" the Annunaki needed actually meant something a little different. The myth is that the Annunaki's sun was dying out and they needed to revive it so they could continue to live on their homeworld.

That's a "myth" alright, but it's not Sumerian.

It's not even ancient. It's a modern lie told by Zecharia Sitchin.

Harte

One problem with this whole thread and that is……not one ancient text says anything about Annunaki needing gold. Yes I know what Zecharia Sitchin said but there is NO ancient text talking about Annunaki needing gold!

We therefore don’t need to ask why they needed gold because they didn’t.

reply to post by LUXUS


Yes its like asking WHY angels danced on the head of a pin

Originally posted by coredrill
I dont understand the basic reason why The Annunaki/Nibblers who are supposed to be a uber advanced species would genetically create humans on planet earth to mine for gold!! For such an advanced species, it would have been child's play to develop some sort of mechanism to extract gold from under the ground than use humans to manually dig the stuff out.
The only reason would be the Annunaki/Nibblers would have been a lazy bunch.

Gold being used to create positrons/anti-matter to provided propulsion for spaceships....come on give us a break!! Fact? if its a fact, why are we not building such "space ship engines"???

Somebody been watching too much of Sci-Fi TV & movies!! for sure!!

[edit on 12/8/10 by coredrill]

Wasn't a Roman inventer named Hero the one who invented the steam engine to make work easier, but the roman authorities and Caesars opted no, because they preferred the slave labour. Not just a lazy bunch but an immoral bunch, this neo liberal policy of slave labour and transcontinental corporations may have come from the Annunaki. Or trans-galactic corporations in the case.

Where are the laboratories where the human/ hybrid monkey clones were built? Their spaceship or on earth, earth probably, but where are the technical worker laboratories. That would be considered a crime, to make a genetically engineered race and to then cover the tracks.

Originally posted by MarkScheppy
[[edit on 12/8/10 by coredrill]

Wasn't a Roman inventer named Hero the one who invented the steam engine to make work easier, but the roman authorities and Caesars opted no, because they preferred the slave labour.

He invented a steam toy, it did no useful work. He had the general principle correct but not the metallurgy or skills to turn it into something useful. The 'authorities' had nothing to do with it as it was an academic exercise. They already had useful work energy from water and sail power not to mention animals and humans

Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
In my opinion, your statement was WAY more ridiculous while even trying to account for the cynicism.

..and the obvious notion that what you REALLY have a problem with is man humbling himself.

I'm not sure if that is healthy at all.

Way to sound like a megalomaniac... yeah, it was THAT obvious. You just TOTALLY rode all over any credible point you could make by exposure of your own agenda.

Same as Harry potter, our culture is being put in a slime-mold where we quote books that are part of the oncoming dark age. New Dark age proponents also include H.G. Wells and Aldoux Huxley. Generation X and stuff for dumbing down monkeys.

The megalomaniacs are the trilateral commission, the rothchilds and the rockefellers (their agenda is the worst type). Beastman who walks on four legs and Gandalf Stormcrow rides on to preach the destruction of nuclear powered programs and high-flux energy.