Spirit Orbs Over My Family Members,Need Help! Trying To Debunk

Howdy folks,so I've been wanting to post this earlier but couldn't due to the fact I have to make 20 thread reply's for making your own thread,but thats another story altogether(I'm new) ok,so I got these images here I can't quite figure out and I need some debunking.Why you ask?? cause I think you all are fairly intelligent people here and think outside the box so to speak;besides I'm having trouble deciding how could this have happened myself.First off,I'd like to tell you how I got these images,who took them,what I feel they could be,etc.A little about me.I don't believe in the,"orbs" phenomena,why? because they are found everywhere and are mistaken for dust particles or water particles so on and so forth.Next,I'm not a charlatan who get's off of tricking people.I really don't see a point to doing so and most off all,I hate wasting my time.I've alway's been fascinated with the paranormal and UFO's because I think people are very much interested in mystery.I've never had anything like this happened to me,with a exception of two other's thing in my life which I'll save for another time.

On with the images damn it!! I found these images on my sister's PC.I was snooping around her personal pics hehe.These where taken two years ago at my nieces christening.I was there and miserable to be at a church once more LOL I have 3 sisters,one of them took the image's on her Sony 7.2 megapixel point-and-shoot.If you notice there are 3 blue orbs behind 3 individuals, a women(my sister) a man (my brother-in-law) and a child(my niece) I felt that this was very strange that somehow,three of the most visible blue,"orbs" happened to be behind 3 heads.It certainly caught my eye.But it got even more stranger.As I zoomed in to examine further the image,I noticed something in one of the,"orbs" it's in my brother-in-law's,"orb" and it sure gave me the spooks when I saw it.IT"S A FREAKING SKULL!! yup that's what I said.I told them I think it could be an omen,but who know's.I showed some of my family members and they where like OMG!,"I see it!" "what does this mean?" I was chuckling with them but really I'm kind of freaked by it too.Thing's did not end there,it got more stranger as we started to investigate further.I found more images,this time,my little nephew (three years old at the time) looking straight at a so called blue,"orb" this seem's pretty strange considering I've heard that kids are keen on seeing spirits or ghosts.Maybe there is some truth to all of this,who know's but this is surly eye opening for me.

I did a little more research and found out this:

Angelic Beings? Many people think that spirits orbs are visible representations of angels. Believers in this camp note a predominance of orbs at special family gatherings, worship services or in spiritual places. For example, many photographs of weddings show orbs over the bride and/or groom. Do these photos depict dust kicked up by a vigorous “Macarena” danced at the reception, or the guardian angels of the happy couple protecting and blessing the union? Photos taken during worship services frequently show golden orbs on or near the clergy, participants or depictions of deities and holy people. Believers often take these appearances as proof that the light visible in each photograph is indeed an angel. Christians, Jews, Muslims and followers of many of the world’s leading religions believe in angels. Angels depicted in the scriptures of many faiths conjure images of beings of light. Many ancient religious texts describe angels in terms of light, or as beings of light. Many people believe that now, in our troubled times, angels or angelic spirits sent to protect us manifest as orbs.

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[edit on 22-3-2010 by paradoxchild]

[edit on 22-3-2010 by paradoxchild]

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Source for research:
paranormal.lovetoknow.com...

Even with a poorly drawn face these images are just showing dust particles catching the light of the flash from the camera.

You think so?? can you explain to me the skull in one of the orbs.And no don't say it's the pattern in the background,I checked that too

It was a big event, why would you be suprised if your dead relatives wanted to watch the momentus occasion?

Originally posted by paradoxchild
can you explain to me the skull in one of the orbs.And no don't say it's the pattern in the background,I checked that too

Orbs are always a problem as people will always say that they're 'just dust'

And they could perfectly well be dust, they could be spiritual, I'm not gonna pass judgement.

Just ask yourself: have any of your family been messing round with spirits and stuff?
Was the place haunted?
Has anyone ever been haunted?

If the answer is no, then it probably is just dust.

You see what you want to see in photographs. If you're convinced it's a skull, it will be a skull. For Chad, it's just the way the dust have been captured.

Either way, whatever you think it is, it's nothing to worry about.

But you did in the OP ask to 'debunk' these photographs, and orbs are easily debunked, so I'd expect people to then say dust etc... You've asked for it, so I'm afraid you're gonna have to accept what these people are saying and make your own conclusion without arguing.

Thats pretty weird to look at but then it is cool to,definatley looks like a skull but I think they were there for the occasion.

Ive never seen anything like that before where orbs are over more than 1 person.I suppose we wont know 100% what they are,but I think they are a type of guardian angel.

S&F

Given the fact that they show the same density and are all the same shape then my instincs would have to say dust particles.

I would'nt get two excited about the two dots on one which you say looks like eyes. Its just one of those weird annomolys.

Ive seen hundreds of photos like this and probably have photos that show something similar if i looked. This is why most seriouse ghost hunters dont get two excited by orbs in photo's. Especialy these classic spherical ones that are all the same color and density. Theres always a million and one things they can be put down to other than spirit orbs.

So im sorry if thats not what you want to hear but thats my oppinion anyway. Feel free to reject it lol.

reply to post by paradoxchild


Good Post welcome.

Could you provide the Camera type and model?

Where you using your flash on the day?

The above is very important.

I think you have as on the second photo, just above the babies head on the altar is an bunch of flowers. Just below these flowers is an Picture frame (as seen on the left of the altar to) with an icon in it. You will notice that this glass on the frame is bright and displaying quite a bit of a "Red" sort of reflection.

If no flash was used????

This is the only really really interesting part of the photos.

The President of the American Ghost Society has written a long peice on her research, and says they are debunked:
Here

It is strange that they seem to have only surfaced after the invention of the CCD or digital cameras. Even though we have "Ghost pics" from when photography started and UFO's etc, no orb suntil digital cameras.

Each case is differant but they have been recreated many times, it can be the camera, a dirty lens or water droplets Pollen close to lens (as lots of flowers etc) dust from incense etc.

Other threads on it on ATS Here

Kind Regards,

Elf
ElfEdit to fix link

[edit on 22-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

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Your right, and I accept everyones opinion,hell I'm even a skeptic on orbs so I completely understand that.I just think the skull inside one of the orbs is definitely out of the ordinary to say the least and to answer on one of your questions.The church happens to be build on top of graves.

[edit on 22-3-2010 by paradoxchild]

Originally posted by GW8UK
It was a big event, why would you be suprised if your dead relatives wanted to watch the momentus occasion?

I guess not,anything is possible

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal

Given the fact that they show the same density and are all the same shape then my instincs would have to say dust particles.

I would'nt get two excited about the two dots on one which you say looks like eyes. Its just one of those weird annomolys.

Ive seen hundreds of photos like this and probably have photos that show something similar if i looked. This is why most seriouse ghost hunters dont get two excited by orbs in photo's. Especialy these classic spherical ones that are all the same color and density. Theres always a million and one things they can be put down to other than spirit orbs.

So im sorry if thats not what you want to hear but thats my oppinion anyway. Feel free to reject it lol.

No,no makes sense to me.I just think it's strange,your theory is as good as mine buddy

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The man on youtube that meditates before orbs appear is nice, makes you really wonder whats out there but out of our range of perception (light)

i think its weird that the orbs in that pic are all on the left shoulders of people.

i did a quick search on google about orbs on left shoulder and lots of stuff popped up. spiritorbs.blogspot.com... is one page that shows a few examples. most of the left shouldered ones appear to be the same height as your photos. google lights up when you search orb left shoulder though.

is there a difference between left shouldered orbs and others?

whoops

doubles....

[edit on 3/22/2010 by mahtoosacks]

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
reply to post by paradoxchild

 

Good Post welcome.

Could you provide the Camera type and model?

Where you using your flash on the day?

The above is very important.

I think you have as on the second photo, just above the babies head on the altar is an bunch of flowers. Just below these flowers is an Picture frame (as seen on the left of the altar to) with an icon in it. You will notice that this glass on the frame is bright and displaying quite a bit of a "Red" sort of reflection.

If no flash was used????

This is the only really really interesting part of the photos.

The President of the American Ghost Society has written a long peice on her research, and says they are debunked:
Here

It is strange that they seem to have only surfaced after the invention of the CCD or digital cameras. Even though we have "Ghost pics" from when photography started and UFO's etc, no orb suntil digital cameras.

Each case is differant but they have been recreated many times, it can be the camera, a dirty lens or water droplets Pollen close to lens (as lots of flowers etc) dust from incense etc.

Other threads on it on ATS [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/searchresults.php?cx=010913664321846374563%3Afzhl_cfnikq&cof=FORID%3A9&q=%22Orbs%22+&sa=Search#1066]Here[/url ]

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 22-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

My sister has the camera and I'm not at her house but I'll give her a call today to find out the model for you.Yes,there was flash used I believe,but I'm not sure,this was after all two years ago.But if my memory serves me correct all my family members use auto shoot on there camera's cause they are all noobs lol and the church is fairly dark so it would be safe to say it was used.

reply to post by mahtoosacks


I think a lot of those pics can be explained but to answer your question,I don't have the slightest clue LOL

reply to post by paradoxchild


Want the psychological answer?
Our minds are wired to see things that may not be there. A kind of recognition. It helps to identify faster and distinguish friend from foe so to speak.

Have you ever seen a light switch, electronic buttons, front of a car, natural rock formation, food that looks like a human face to you? Yep, were wired to see faces. Theres a website dedicated to it actually.

You see a skull because of your processing.

Were in a church ceremony
>built on/near cemetary
>>strange camera effect
>>>put 2 and 2 together:
The strange effect must correlate to the environment and my mind perceives a skull, therefore there may be a spirit captured on film.

Someone like me see photo not assuming it is a spirit, does not see a skull. Personal bias decide what you perceive, as does emotion. You have emotional response to further bias you to thinking it is supernatural. How can I tell? You mention needing 20 posts, urgency is strong sign of emotions...

Wow, very interesting pictures.

Although I would not nescecerily interpret it as something negative...
I have no idea what it might be.

Whats interesting is that the orbs appear in the same spot in the back of the head behind each member.