More Weird Weather

Hailstones!!

I live about mid way up the Western Australian coast, in Geraldton, have done on and offf for 40 years. We are not known for having wintery weather, doesn't get too cold and we don't even get an awful lot of rain.

So having 2 tropical type thunderstorms in 2 days is kinda unusual for us and although I guess we may have had them in the past, I certainly don't remember hailstones here before, and can't find any mention of them either, so the last 2 days have tripped my weird-o-meter.

The weirdest part is that it is 30c outside right now and it just hailed.

Yesterday (sunday) the kids in the neighbourhood were trying to catch them, having never seen them before, and whinging when they melted .

They weren't very big, not even as big as a pea, and only came down for a few minutes, but hail none the less.


PS: 30c = 86f

reply to post by PennyQ


Get pictures next time... Would love to see them as I dont get to your neck of the woods ever.

Get ready for more wierd weather.
And dont think its bad there we just had a freak storm cross America dumping snow in the southern states. Not to include the rocky mountains.

reply to post by PennyQ


outside air temp doesn't mean much to the formation of hail. Updrafts in the t-storm keep the rain from falling all the way to the ground. The raindrop freezes, gets caught in a loop until it get to heavy for the updrafts to keep it aloft. the frozen drop is hail. Depending on how big it is means more to it actually hitting the surface. All hail melts a little on the way down. I have seen golf ball size hail in Oklahoma, unusual but not uncommon, at 30 C.

Anyway sounds like a doozy of storm

reply to post by jacksmoke


It snowed in Oregon like a week ago and and the sign I passed said it was mid 40's. Earlier it was like 50 that same morning.

Same thing here in Alabama. Started about a year ago. We usually go months without any rain. The past 365 days have granted us rain at least once every 3 weeks (and I believe this was once around August) but it is more to the affect of raining weekly. It has almost felt to me like I was living in Seattle.

A couple of hours ago, I heard a lot of thunder and then I heard a big downpour on top of my house. Heavy downpours and thunderstorms at 11 PM at night in March are unusual. Now if it had been in Washington DC instead, I might have wondered if someone was trying to send a message. If someone was trying to send a message though, I would expect a lot more violent weather and natural disasters to strike soon. If it happened to hit DC or where Pelosi is from, they would probably just blow it off and not think it was any message.

Originally posted by Ekudram
Get pictures next time... Would love to see them as I dont get to your neck of the woods ever.

We tried to but they melted too fast

to jacksmoke:
Yeah I knew how they formed, it just doesn't happen here lol , it sure was a doozy, really dark clouds, lots of lightning and almost continuous thunder.

to ventian:
I hear ya, apart from the hail, it feels like we have moved to the tropics here.

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Yeah in Melbourne it was fairly warm and then out of no where it started hailing. Broke peoples windows etc and major flooding from it.

reply to post by PennyQ



We just had a cyclone cross the coast on the east coast which could explain the reason you got the hail on the west coast as it was around 40 years ago Mackay was hit by a cyclone and probably the last time it hailed in your area.

i live in texas and was at south by southwest, a huge music event, last week, and it was 70 degrees+ for 4 days up till saterday...and what di it do in texas today? snowed...in march...alot

reply to post by PennyQ


There has been weird wether for some time now,
what I find interesting is more frequient earth activty such as:

Earthquakes, landslids, volcanoes, floods, bush fires, droughts,
snow storms, dust storms, cyclones, tsunami's, glacier movements and much more,


Can someone please start a thread so we can keep track of only the disastrous Earth/weather events so we can see the dates of what happened and where,
PLease make a easy thread to use with dates and disaster only.
(with attachments provided)
There for we can see if they are getting more frequint and or devastating

CHEERS!

problem with that is that earthquakes and tsunamis arn't weather related.

cyclones and huricanes can be reported but truth is that not all reach land and reporting every major storm that doesn't reach land will give artificial higher numbers.

bushfires can occur through poor land management and many are a result of arson and once again arn't always weather related.

localized drought can be caused by numerous reasons, one could be the damming of a river causeing reduced flow down stream.
poor land management practices once again.

so reporting all weather activity does what exactly ?
200 years ago, none of this would have been reported outside local areas.
so what would reporting all of this do now except make people believe something natural is now un-natural.

Australia has had at least 1 cyclone cross the coast in every month of the year, but cyclones are meant to occur in our summer months, so with a history of this occuring, what is so unusual about the weather?

SIGNIFICANT WEATHER - NOVEMBER 2003
Western Australia

On the afternoon of the 15th severe thunderstorms occurred north of Geraldton. Hail to 3-4cm in diameter was reported from Red Bluff Point near Kalbarri. Hail was also reported near Northampton where vegetation was stripped and roads flooded.

www.bom.gov.au...

[edit on 22-3-2010 by munkey66]

Originally posted by trueblue
Can someone please start a thread so we can keep track of only the disastrous Earth/weather events so we can see the dates of what happened and where,
PLease make a easy thread to use with dates and disaster only.
(with attachments provided)
There for we can see if they are getting more frequint and or devastating

CHEERS!

Quake Watch 2010

Volcano Watch 2010

There's a couple to get you started

reply to post by munkey66

so reporting all weather activity does what exactly ?
200 years ago, none of this would have been reported outside local areas.
so what would reporting all of this do now except make people believe something natural is now un-natural.

What it does is allow people to talk about weather occurrences in their area's that seem strange to them, especially from a lifetimes perspective of living in said area.

The replies can sometimes show that these occurrences are indeed natural, also helps some people to understand that climate change is an ongoing thing.

You might be up to date on climatology but many aren't and these threads help them to see that they are not alone in feeling that someting is strange.

And we aren't hurting anybody by discussing it.

SIGNIFICANT WEATHER - NOVEMBER 2003
Western Australia

On the afternoon of the 15th severe thunderstorms occurred north of Geraldton. Hail to 3-4cm in diameter was reported from Red Bluff Point near Kalbarri. Hail was also reported near Northampton where vegetation was stripped and roads flooded.

Indeed.........wasn't in Geraldton itself tho was it?

PQ

reply to post by PennyQ


One problem with this type of thread is that it calls it weird weather, where in fact it may not be all that weird after all.

then you get news headlines like

Mini-cyclone storm lashes Melbourne

There is no such thing as a mini cyclone, it was a storm that hit melbourne, but that headline is very deceptive.

people can talk about the weather all they want,

I have already seen a pattern forming in this thread where people are calling weather in their area weird where it may be normal, as weather cycles in multiples of 7 it gives people on this forum a very small window of experience with reguards to the weather patterns in their area.

I just don't personally like seeing people calling natural things weird

Originally posted by munkey66
I just don't personally like seeing people calling natural things weird

Well I can see you are determined to argue no matter what so I only have one thing left to say:

Don't read this thread

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[edit on 22/3/2010 by PennyQ]

glad you got to see a little hail
I love hail and think it's reall cool (in the small variety)

We had some hail late last year about 10-15mm (SE Coast, UK) Lucky there was no damage, but it made a lot of noise Personally I've never seen hail that large before (40 years) so that was a tad unusual, but really cool.. wouldn't like to see it any larger tho..

Update:

First hail in March (end of summer in aussie) now minus temp for the first time ever.

Early morning temperature for Geraldton on the 4th July was -0.4c , the first time it has gone below 0 since weather records have been kept here.

I sure hope this isn't a trend for the future, we didn't exactly build for cold winters in this part of the country.