Niagra Falls exclusive ufo video from 2009

I have some observations on this video. This is the third, unique, video of this object that I know of. I have also read eyewitness reports that did not include video or photographic evidence. Also, the object is much larger than it appears at first glance. If you watch the ground-based lights cross the object they terminate against structure well outside the anchor points of the objects intrinsic lighting. You can observe this around: 47 as the light beams flatten into discs against a solid surface. Another thing that appears to give away the objects true size can be seen at 1:41. In the lower right two-thirds of the frame there is a point source of light that remains locked in its position relative to the position of the objects intrinsic lighting. For debunkers who would challenge this as a balloon or blimp; I don't think so. These guys work at a skate shop. They live and breathe this stuff and were probably on the job all day. It is highly unlikely that this object could be moved into place using conventional means without one of them noticing it. Even in darkness, tow planes and blimps generate noise from their propulsion systems. Even though their methodology is weak, I usually come to the same conclusion as the debunking crew here. It's going to take a little more work for them on this one.

T.

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Hey, im just batting ideas around here. I want it to be a UFO as much as anyone. Blimps dont need to be propelled by anything they just need to be tethered to stop them floating away.

As the evidence builds however im starting to move towards the possibility that this is a genuine UFO. Although theres a nagging feeling that this can be explained as something from Earth. Unfortunately because of the quality of the videos. Theres not enough to go on either way. So this one will probably remain unexplained.

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Sorry, I wasn't referring to you directly. Blimp or balloon is just an easy starting point for debunkers. You are correct that a blimp doesn't need propulsion to remain stationary but it had to get to its destination by some means.

T.

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No need to appologies, no offence taken. Just have to put these things out there. Someone always does lol. Get the obviouse stuff out the way and make room for the not so obviouse.

reply to post by KrypticCriminal


Thanks for your understanding. I'm new here, but not new to boards in general, so I'm not ready to wade into a fight. ...yet. lol! I did some re-research on this story and came across some relevant info.

Ufo Over Niagra Falls

"At first it look like a circular tear in the sky," said Joshua Green, who lives on Robinson Street. "When the spotlights from the casino would rotate, they would hit the object . . . and it would illuminate the object and create a flash coming back down. "I had never seen anything like that before." I called my sister and told her to go outside and look at the sky. I called my father to see if he had any idea what might be. He went outside and said he's never seen anything like that." A tourist who emailed The Review Sunday afternoon described said he and his wife were walking along Victoria Avenue near Clifton Hill when they noticed "everybody on the street was looking up in the night sky."

What's really interesting, to me anyway, on the above story is the contemporaneous comments from readers who also witnessed the object.

Here's one of the early videos posted on the event:

www.youtube.com...

Of particular interest is the corroboration of passers by who comment on the object as well as from posters commenting on the video.

Here's another contemporaneous video of the object:

www.youtube.com...

So what we have here are multiple, unique videos of a flying object. The sighting of the object is corroborated by multiple disparate witnesses. The object is of unknown origin and defies cursory identification. No official explanation has been offered to the point of authorities feigning ignorance of the subject. This is one of, if not THE, the best cases I've come across.

T.

Here's a new purported to have been shot 3/21/2010.

www.youtube.com...

That's four distinct videos. Man the skeptics always clamor for this type of evidence and yet this thread has sunk like a stone.

T.

[edit on 24-3-2010 by Triangulum]

Ok, we are getting somewhere with this now. In that last video it clearly shows a high altitude aircraft, my guess at about 8000 to 10000 feet, pas UNDER the object in question. This would make this object MASSIVE and at an extremely high altitude. This is turning out to be a good case and one that UFO investigators should be following up on

My only problem with this video is that the people taking the videos have yet to acquire a camera with some sort of night shot or night vision capabilities, they have yet do so and this has been taking place since October. By now you would think someone with high end video gear would have drove there and began shooting video. They have yet to also present a shot of this same area during the day, something that is KEY to giving this video credibility. This incident needs a control video shot in the daytime from the exact same vantage point.

[edit on 24-3-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

Originally posted by Triangulum
This is one of, if not THE, the best cases I've come across.

What is your basis for that claim?

To me, this case is simply one of numerous rather frustratingly inconclusive cases.

I gave up on it months ago, due to the inability to obtain straightforward and direct answers to the simple factual questions I put to various witnesses (in the larger thread about these sightings that is active on ATS, on Youtube, on other forums and by email).

When simple facts cannot be ascertained, it is difficult to provide any meaningful comment.

By the way, there are lots more relevant links, videos and opinions in the other thread on ATS about this case.

[edit on 24-3-2010 by IsaacKoi]

Originally posted by IsaacKoiWhat is your basis for that claim?

To me, this case is simply one of numerous rather frustratingly inconclusive cases.

Of course it's frustrating and inconclusive. If it weren't we wouldn't be here now would we?

I gave up on it months ago, due to the inability to obtain straightforward and direct answers to the simple factual questions I put to various witnesses (in the larger thread about these sightings that is active on ATS, on Youtube, on other forums and by email).

Really? How many people did you ask?

www.realufos.net...

Anonymous said...
So i live in Niagara Falls and i was woking that night and definitly seen it everyone was looking up in the sky in niagara falls taking pictures of it i have a photo on my blackbery there were two bright lights on either sides of it and when the lights from the casino passed over this spot it lit up not sure what it was but there was deffinitly something metal reflecting back

Army said...
I saw this while on a break at work. those lights are always on and I have never seen them reflect when they met in the middle something was definitely there what was it i don't know thats why its called a UFO

Survivor said...
I have a different perspective and time. It was about 9PM driving southbound on HWY 406. Now I'm used to seeing the spotlights (normally positioned at the Casino, or strip clubs). I counted about half a dozen vertical lights that appeared with no motion in the sky. So if it was a stealth object as reported then there was more than 1 for sure.

Anonymous said...
I work in NF and have seen the object(s) a few times in the last weeks. I'm a bit west of the strip so the light pollution isn't as bad. My viewing position is almost directly under the object. From my vantage, the object isn't at the point where the spotlights converge, so usually only one of the beams sweeps the object and lights it up. The object(s) are always in the same spot, stay for 2-3 hours, then vanish. They don't move one inch while they're there, so this is no way some kind of balloon/blimp/stealth blimb/fuel dump/flare/etc. They have their own lights that are sometimes in different configurations. I've watched as they've changed. The objects themselves are long and narrow, silver, and reflective.

darkchar(niagara falls) said...
I was there, working at the casino that night. My co workers, myself and some patrons watched these lights whenever we could run outside for over 3 hours. It looked like something bright was shining through the clouds and every time a spotlight shone on the glowing area of cloud a beacon of light flashed back. Possibly a reflection but reflecting off what? The main "lights" glowed for the entire time and had nothing to do with the spotlight. Weirdest thing I have ever seen and no explanations forthcoming yet.

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www.niagarafallsreview.ca...

I work at The Old Stone Inn on Robinson Street and have seen these lights on three diferent occassions in the past 3 weeks. I have shown co-workers and tourist walking by our buisness, and all verfied that I was seeing what I was seeing. These lights are amazing. Sometimes there are just a couple of them, but I have seen 10-12 of them hovering in the sky at the same time. Oh, and they do move their positions, not to mention change their shape and size and reflect light back to earth. How does light reflect light? Is that possible?
I told my parents about these lights the first time I seen them, and to my surprise they didn't think I was nuts. They went on to explain that a week earlier they were at a local bingo hall and seen a weird light in the sky. They described it as a spotlight shining down from the sky, but not reaching the ground. Then it just disappeared.
Anyway I'll try and catch this phenomenon on camera if it happens again. I have the best vantage point because each time I've seen these lights they are literally right ontop of The Old Stone Inn where I work.

I am Scott Jordan mentioned in the article.
I can't tell you what was in the the sky Saturday night, but what I did witness was that when the four Casino spotlights that rotate through the night sky would come together and be veritcal in the sky, they (the lights) appeared to be reflecting off of something mettalic high up in the sky.
Whatever was in the sky was stationary, I did not see any flashing lights or hear any sounds and there was no distinctive shape to it. After watching the video that is posted above (many times) it does appear to have a trangular shape to it.
Was this your classic UFO-flying saucer event... I don't know, but this event has made me stop and really think and be less of a skeptic.

I am Scott Jordan mentioned in the article.
I can't tell you what was in the the sky Saturday night, but what I did witness was that when the four Casino spotlights that rotate through the night sky would come together and be veritcal in the sky, they (the lights) appeared to be reflecting off of something mettalic high up in the sky.
Whatever was in the sky was stationary, I did not see any flashing lights or hear any sounds and there was no distinctive shape to it. After watching the video that is posted above (many times) it does appear to have a trangular shape to it.
Was this your classic UFO-flying saucer event... I don't know, but this event has made me stop and really think and be less of a skeptic.

Hello Barrister Isaac from England,
I can tell you that during the day (Saturday) there was nothing attached or flying over the casino, they usually do not do that sort of thing due to tourism helicopters flying by the falls during the daylight hours. I witnessed this at about 10pm about 5 km away from this video's location while walking my dog, it was a pretty clear and unobstructed view, i sat there for about 4 minutes, it was kind of spooky, it reminded me of in the movies, Independence day, where the fighter jets shoot at the UFO and their "Plasma shield" would block the shots. It was like the light would not penetrate or shine through some force field that was around this object in the sky, that's my observation anyways.
Thank you for your interest Isaac
Mike

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My husband, father and step mom all saw these lights as well. Please view the shot my husband took of it
Thanks,
Kathy

Here's her photo

www.flickr.com...


Here's more of the same...

www.niagarafallsreview.ca...

I could go on and on but I hope you get the point? Did you ask a lot of people about this or did you just spook a couple internet denziens who really weren't looking for the publicity?


T

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This wasn't a prolonged event and seemed rather random during the period it occurred.
The problem with most consumer grade "night vision" equipped video cameras is that the feature requires illumination from the camera itself to work. The camera is simply not powerful enough to illuminate anything of distance.

T.

This one has been coming and going since October, and so far, it has not been debunked to my knowledge.
Until it is, this is the real deal as far as I can tell.

The original poster on Youtube,(shivercanada), mentioned MUFON coming to investigate around Christmas time.
Does anyone know what conclusions, if any, they came to?
Thanks.

Originally posted by Triangulum
I hope you get the point?

Not really, no.

Thank you for cutting and pasting that mass of material from various sources, but I think I saw all that material months ago (and I, or others, posted links to it and commented upon it in the more detailed existing thread on ATS about this case).

If you read the other thread, you will see that material in context - complete with an outline of the questions I posed.

Bye.

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The point was that there are many, many people who witnessed this thing. From what I can tell you asked a single question and got an answer on it( which I posted above). I'll check out the other thread(s) though as I'm sure I'm missing something.

T.




[edit on 25-3-2010 by Triangulum]

I'm going to get a hold of a very high end FLIR camera from a friend of mine who helps run the local airport of the flying club I belong to and perhaps head down to Niagara Falls in the clubs C 172R to photo this thing from the air.

When this phenomenon takes place, how long does it usually last for until it disappears again? Can you give me an idea on a map of the city where this object might be situated? Would you say that the object remains stationary, or does it move around? Have you seen any aircraft types in the area that seemed out of place at night and during the day, specifically larger type helicopters and/or the Bell 206B series of helicopter in red or black with very little markings?

The email I received back from Nav Canada eluded to the fact that the Canadian Military have been alerted about this object and are investigating it further. If it is something that can't be explained by standard methods, I know for a fact I will not hear anything more about it as it will be kept quiet and out of the spotlight unless the story is kept alive on the net. In the past CSIS has been involved in a big way when other objects have been reported in Canada over the years.

Contact me via U2U if you have some details that you don't want made public.

Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
I'm going to get a hold of a very high end FLIR camera from a friend of mine who helps run the local airport of the flying club I belong to and perhaps head down to Niagara Falls in the clubs C 172R to photo this thing from the air.

Thank you very much for offering your help to investigate this! I have tried to call your posting on ATS to the attention of YouTube users handeroo and PaladinHludwig. Both seem to live in the area. Maybe you want to try to contact them on YouTube.
Discussion on YouTube

Another idea would be to ask the casino operating the spotlights for help. Maybe they agree to focus their spotlights on E.T. next time he shows up

P.S: Hard to understand why this topic does not get more attention on ATS.

If this UFO video at the Falls is authentic, I have a good mythology for you to entertain this thread. If you read mythology it will certainly tell you about ALIENS.

It is said spirits still live in the caves beneath Niagara Falls to this day, the cave is named "Cave-of-the-Winds" behind the falls by the Seneca nation Indian Chiefs

The Seneca nation Indian Chiefs at the time visited Good Spirit and honored him for his kindness, or should we say ALIENS.

All kinds of spirits are said to live at this cave. Good and Bad.

I like the story about the BLUE MEN WITH BLUE SKIN that can fly in the air and take children Indians "to the 12 heavens" while the parents watching are freightened. EDIT" The BLUE MEN WITH BLUE SKIN are apparently the Good ones.

The Bad Ones in the mythology, the Ancient of Lizards chasing a human Indian. According to my knowledge snakes can't have long hair, run as fast as us running or swing through trees. Even to the point they can shape into human lifeforms looking like us.

Snakes also can't talk or control nations full of populated people through weather manipulation, or poison the water of Niagara Falls. Mythology and History. Love it! Doesn't mean it's real but what is a UFO technology from and whats in them, Us people?

Niagara Falls also has alot of Hollow earth theorys besides the mythology of the Indians.





[edit on 27-3-2010 by FungShuiMyLife]

[edit on 27-3-2010 by FungShuiMyLife]

Maybe a fancy flying observation deck for the rich?

Surveillance craft anyone?

articles.latimes.com...


Pentagon plans blimp to spy from new heights
The giant dirigible would use radar to closely and constantly monitor activity on the ground from 65,000 feet.

March 13, 2009|Julian E. Barnes

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said Thursday that it intends to spend $400 million to develop a giant dirigible that will float 65,000 feet above the Earth for 10 years, providing unblinking and intricate radar surveillance of the vehicles, planes and even people below.

"It is absolutely revolutionary," Werner J.A. Dahm, chief scientist for the Air Force, said of the proposed unmanned airship -- describing it as a cross between a satellite and a spy plane.

Kind of reminds me of the case in texas where they ran a clip on the news of what was obviously a giant sophisticated blimp and then acted like it was some mysterious, unknown ufo craft...
This one -

Originally posted by alaskan
Maybe a fancy flying observation deck for the rich?

Surveillance craft anyone?

articles.latimes.com...


Pentagon plans blimp to spy from new heights
The giant dirigible would use radar to closely and constantly monitor activity on the ground from 65,000 feet.

March 13, 2009|Julian E. Barnes

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said Thursday that it intends to spend $400 million to develop a giant dirigible that will float 65,000 feet above the Earth for 10 years, providing unblinking and intricate radar surveillance of the vehicles, planes and even people below.

"It is absolutely revolutionary," Werner J.A. Dahm, chief scientist for the Air Force, said of the proposed unmanned airship -- describing it as a cross between a satellite and a spy plane.

Kind of reminds me of the case in texas where they ran a clip on the news of what was obviously a giant sophisticated blimp and then acted like it was some mysterious, unknown ufo craft...
This one -

It could be a blimp, just like Roswell.