Are the Tea party Protesters equivalent to EDL?

If i am lead to believe, the tea party patriot's are similar to the English Defence league, who themselves claim to be patriot's, were indeed there actually Nazi racists.

Of course, such a organsation will never admit they are Nazis and racist's. However with prolong interrogation I believe those hidden thoughts would be exposed.

So, for those who do not live in the usa can you explain the tea party in full and have Tea party been branded racist's in the media?

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Again it comes down to the gap that was left when we the people stepped away from patriotism. THe word patroit became highjacked by the idiot right. You know the revulsion that the some people had for the british flag as a result of the old NF etc who actually highjacked patriotism.

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Originally posted by Tiger5
Again it comes down to the gap that was left when we the people stepped away from patriotism. THe word patroit became highjacked by the idiot right. You know the revulsion that the some people had for the british flag as a result of the old NF etc who actually highjacked patriotism.

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Maybe thats why the far right groups were created to kill of patriotism

EDL are a single issue campaign organization they are only concerned with militant Islam in the UK. I really dislike the EDL, I have made my point many times that all they are is big drinking club, intent on whipping up tensions within communities.

I have to admit to not knowing what the Teaparties are about. Having to pay too much tax? Health care?

I guess the similarities would be predominantly white,groups with an axe to grind

There are blacks and Latinos in the Teaparty.
These are regular people, mostly conservative as far as U.S. policy and want FREEDOMS enforced and mandated as required by the Constitution!
NOT ONE that I have seen is a racist.
Sadly, the Republican elitists have tried to steal the whole movement!
These are the same people who vote with ALL of the NWO policies!
They are the same as the Democrats. In 'cahoots' if you will.........

EDL defines people like moslems as non english when some moslems are actually english. for the EDL English = White. I would argue that the EDL does not want or have non-white members. Moslem are the issue of the day but I believe that all visible minorities could be at risk.

The TP has non-white people because its focus is on public spending. So nationhood is a secondary issue that seems to rise out of the constitutional arguements but I may be wrong and happy to be corrected. THe BBC news claims that the healthcare plan is the most important decision for the last 40 years. Feeling must therefore run high on both sides.

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I was thinking something along these lines earlier today! Both seem understandably eager to dismiss accusations of far right extremism. I'd trust the TP more than the EDL but then I'm British so my view of America could be skewed in all sorts of ways!

I would be interested to know if there are any similar 'grass-roots' right wing movements getting lots of attention/support in other nations, could this be a global trend?

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EDL defines people like moslems as non english when some moslems are actually english

There aren't many muslims who are completely English unless they've converted (but that would be unusual), although muslims born here have british citizenship. Many people are also part English, part Asian etc, but are British. They may be 1/4 English, half English, etc, and may or may not be muslims.

The EDL, BNP and other fascist groups blatently ignore that many people have mixed parents now, and it's idiotic to throw around labels on the basis of skin colour.

The anti-fascist group are anti-fascist by name, but not anti-fascist by nature. They are identical hardcore extremists from different minority communties and some misguided thugs from local communities. I'm sure there are real anti-fascist groups of all backgrounds and ethnicity, but they can never protest peacefully because the extremists from EDL, BNP and anti-fascism show up.

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May i be the one who saves this thread from complete and utter ignorance.

How then do you explain the 'non-white' EDL members who marched through Stoke, Bolton, manchester - i.e the black EDL members and the Sikh EDL members.

Also how can you be RACIST when you are protesting against a RELIGION (or more importantly the extreme forms of a certain religion) and not any race in particular.

Are the above posters guilty of being racist by saying the EDL is limited to the white man only??

The 'Taxed Enough Already' movement has lots of black/asian/brown people in the ranks. Really anyone who has been Taxed Enough is part of the movement. I'm brown and support the movement.

I cannot believe there are people in the world who believe they should be taxed more, and are against the TEA party.

Originally posted by March of the Fire Ants
I was thinking something along these lines earlier today! Both seem understandably eager to dismiss accusations of far right extremism. I'd trust the TP more than the EDL but then I'm British so my view of America could be skewed in all sorts of ways!

I would be interested to know if there are any similar 'grass-roots' right wing movements getting lots of attention/support in other nations, could this be a global trend?

I think some researching is in order. I know in Russia and Poland. th far right are gaining stronger popularity same with greece France and Germany.

The far right are hijacking patriotism for their own agenda it donest matter if there is black, hispanics in the Tea Party or Black, Indian in the EDL. The far right are so elusive they will do anything to get support to get in power and that's what will happen if we are not carful and that's what i think this is all about.

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Yeah there usually a few tokens in these groups, I don't think it really proves much. On the same note, having a few overtly racist members doesn't mean they are all racist, but you've gotta wonder about the people at the top!

You've made me think about that Ross Kemp documentary, about the Nazi gangs over towards Russia somewhere, scary stuff.

EDL are indeed a single issue organisation.

They protest against the spread of radical and fundamental Islam throughout England.
They are very closely linked to SDL, WDL @ UDL.

The EDL have both Black and Asian members and are not in anyway racist, indeed one of their most prominent slogans is 'Black and White unite against Islam'.

At nearly every EDL protest / march, legally authorised by the relevant council, extreme Socialist and Muslim factions have illegally counter protested and antagonised and provoked situations.
As usual the PC driven MSM have portrayed the EDL as the guilty party, a blatant lie and misrepresentation of the facts.

How the EDL compare to the US Tea Party protesters I don't know as no-one has fully explained the aim etc of this organisation.
However, I suspect they are more than a single issue group and think their aims are to return the US to the one envisioned by the signaturies of The Declaration Of Independance and take their name from the Boston Tea Party.
I could of course be well wrong about this though.

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Actually most of the anti fascists hav a stronger political ideological background than the average BNPer. Most of the anti-fascists read searchlight and are ojn more than nodding terms with the left. I write as an ex memeber. My point about english moslems is then there is a whol generation that was born here (england) of british parents hence havefull right of citizenship.

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I have no desire to turn this into yet another anti-Muslim thread and would much prefer to hear from our American members more about the Tea Party protesters.
However I think it is fair to point out that one of the most basic and fumdamental parts of the Islamic faith is the advancement and imposition of extreme Sharia Law wherever they Muslims live using any means necessary.
They seek to use freedom and democracy to destroy freedom and democracy.
The EDL seeks to preserve our freedoms and democracy.
Maybe this is where a comparison with the US Tea Party protesters can be drawn.

Edit to add:

I didn't realise that TEA was actually an acronym for Taxed Enough Already and thought it was an allusion to The Boston Tea Party, although I suppose it does tie in together bearing in mind the original complaints of those involved in The Boston Tea Party.

So there we have it, there is little to compare the two organisations.

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I agree with most of what you said except the bit about msm reporting of of the EDL vs UAF. The BBC at least seemed fairly neutral about the Bolton protests. If anything they were more critical of the UAF, at least the arrest figures pointed the finger of blame at them. I can't help wondering if more of them were arrested because members of the police force may be more in agreement with the EDL.. but who knows! Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots the lot of em!