The Heat Problem

"Ok, and the friction that you generate with the small amount of pressure your muscles exert is miniscule compared to the thousands of tons of weight that was exerted on the towers metal frame. So if you can get it hot enough to burn, imagine how much more friction that amount of weight could generate."

no, im sorry, but it can't work like that. with your model of collapse, the top of the towers would choose the path of least resistance. the damage to the towers from the planes wasn't perfect, one side was weaker than the other. it would topple to the side, and the parts of the tower untouched by fire would still be there.

friction generating melted steel isn't really possible, and certanly not in the quantities showed by nasa's photo. you see, once the steel became that pliable, it would just seperate, and you would lose the friction. it is no where near a viable solution to the melted steel and the observed temperatures.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
I, too, work with steel and aluminum all day, every day. We cut them, weld them, shape them. You name it. Office fires have never brought a steel-structured highrise down, completely and totally, in history before 9/11 or after.

The problem you have using this argument is that gov't saboteurs have never been able to sneak into an occupied building and plant controlled demolitions without being noticed, completely and totally, in history before or after 9/11, either. Yet, you're entirely willing to subscribe to that concept wholesale.

Wy the double standard?

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Office fires have never brought a steel-structured highrise down, completely and totally, in history before 9/11 or after.

fair point in isolation but 9/11 wasn't just an office fire was it?

it was the impact of two masses weighing somewhere between 80 and 157 tons at 300+mph into the side of the towers and then a fire

in other words, it was a fire in a building that had already had some major structural damage done to it

big big difference. you can't isolate just one event.