Press Release from SIRIUS Space Research Academy of Turkey

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Given this new (to me) info about the magnification used on the camera, I will just reiterate my observations from the other thread of a couple of weeks ago.

First, we have to accept that more than one early morning this craft hung in about the same place to be videoed and looked virtually exactly the same. Seemingly, like they were looking at him while he was looking at them.
Second, especially because of the increased magnification, I find the sharpness of the apparent edge of the craft on the left side (for us) to be too distinct for the supposed distance. And third, the craft seems to be lit from the front while in the one portion of the video the Moon is above and behind the craft.

I know that ET UFOs exist, but I doubt this one.

I know that sitting behind a computer screen learning everything from google makes a person feel informed enough to have all the answers, but I think that the reason nobody has any good points to prove a hoax or to show any good evidence of tampering, I am not going to rush to judgment as some of you have so I do not end up with the flimsy explanations I have read from you so far.

[edit on 20-3-2010 by sharklive6]

Originally posted by Smell The Roses
reply to post by Phage

 

So we are going with model on this one? Well lets see if anyone can disprove that Phage because when I first saw this video, to be completely honest, the only thing I thought of that would be able to work on this as a hoax and look legit would be the use of a model. Although a believer I am still very skeptical because of all the garbage floating around. I also respect ATS users opinions, because in most cases ATS figures out the truth one way or another.

I really hope that is not the case though, and until someone proves or disproves, I will still believe, because I'm a believer at heart, that this is legit.

There is no evidence of a model.

There is newer daytime footage I will post in a few.

[edit on 20-3-2010 by sharklive6]

I'm gonna state my Opinions Again...

If a Real UFO/Alien Craft visited this Planet, there would be hundreds if not thousands of reports of it. Not just a few little ones here and there.

It would be such a HUGE Event that no-one could keep it covered up.

If Roswell happened in this day and age, do you really think the Military would be able to "Hush" it up? There is just too much technology today that everybody has access to that a Cover Up can only be carried out if it happened in the "Middle Of Nowhere".

If a Real, Bonafide UFO flew past the White House, The Sydney Harbour Bridge, The Kremlin, The Taj Mahal, The Pyramids and Past my bedroom window, There would be nothing in this world that could stop the information getting out.

So, if anyone posts a UFO and there are only a few little reports of UFO's, you can bet that it isn't real or you could even conclude it to be a Hoax.

So, If you think I'm wrong, wait, just wait until a Real Extraterristial, Alien Craft visits this Planet. I'll be proven right if it does.

P.S. Look how hard it is today for the Military to keep secrets of Flying Craft? They have to have a Top Secret Facility covering Thousands of Acres of land in order to carry out secret testing and even then, there are People who are filming their Secret Operations.

reply to post by Aliensun


G'day Aliensun

That all makes sense to me.

Then add:

- The supposed visitations 3 years in a row

- The lack of other observers

- The original film not being released

- The viewing angle problem I've mentioned

.....it's getting a little flaky!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Not this crap again!

Remember when it was first released? It was supposed to be the "smoking gun"....how disappointing yet not at all surprising that it wasn't.

I can't 100% prove that this video is a hoax...but it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that it's bogus. I'm sick of explaining why, so here's the Cliff notes:

MISREPRESENTED DAWN/DUSK FOOTAGE, STAGED MODEL & SHAKY CAM = FAKE!

Siriusly....

UPDATE:

THIS WAS FILMED BEFORE A **LIVE** STUDIO AUDIENCE! Lol.

All kidding aside, although it may not be kidding...I don't know why you're making a huge deal outta this --with all due respect. Like a couple people have already stated, there's no official statement on the very website or other credible sites.

It's a shame that when proof is ever made available, the (some) believers will be more interested in saying "I told you so" to the non-believers than what it means for mankind --both the true benefits and the potential harm it can bring, whether it's temporary or long standing.

I sincerely think that to some believers it's more important in being right than the actual momentous occasion Disclosure will be. You can actually see it in their dialogue and sentence structure.

Originally posted by sharklive6


I find this to be one of the most significant news stories of our time and I do not understand why UFOLOGY is sleeping on this and not barely talking about it. I believe this is a legitimate story that will cause the debunkers to have great trouble running away from their ridiculous comments over the years.

www.uforc.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Perhaps because they still need to find how to approach the business side of Ufology once things come to light and stop being fringe "science".

Unless they land in a stadium filled with people and live coverage from all tv channels,there will always be a guy to discredit and debunk ufo footage.
I would never post any kind of film,even if it was the smoking gun.
I don't know what moves people to fake,really don't understand
Money?Fame?
However,this is one of the best footage ever IMHO.
Peace


[edit on 21-3-2010 by upnorthtrip]

If this video is in fact footage of a craft then it is surely the clearest video I've seen of a UFO. However, the video doesn't show anything that gives the viewer proof that the object is actually in the sky. I see no stars, no horizons, and the person doesn't pan the camera to any buildings or structures.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying this video is a hoax, just saying I would have no doubts in my mind if there was at least stars visible or something to reference off of.

It appears, as they zoom closer to the "object" in question, that from below, it looks hollow inside. The light level suggests that as well, passing through the side away from our view, looking lighter as you look at the "hole" in the bottom.

Hot air balloon type hoax, that's my guess.

reply to post by Phage


Let's be honest, it doesn't matter if it's a model, a real interstellar spacecraft, or a military sub orbital spy drone.

It wouldn't even matter if a group of these things flew over the Capital buldings in D.C. or over the Kremlin in Moscow. Or even hundreds of them in massive fleets, seen by the naked eyes, of literally millions of people at the same time flying over the most densely populated city on Earth, Mexico City.

All of which has reportedly occurred. AND have either still photos, 8 - 16mm film, or video tape of the events as a record.

Until, the element of carefully fostered doubt is removed entirely, sceptics are always going to rubbish this subject and any sightings, on whatever tenuous thread is available.

Sometimes, it has to come down to what one believes is more likely.

reply to post by sotp


What is the point of the dusk/dawn comment?

Are you seriously saying that if a video of an anomalous object is shot at dusk or dawn (twilight), that it's an automatic hoax? If so, i don't understand the logic.

As for a shaky camera, you try zooming to maximum on a hand held camera, and keep the picture from shaking. It's next to impossible without a tripod or counterweight system.

wow that is cool as hell
i could see 2 greys sitting inside the craft;
they have pretty big eyes;





they look like the being in this video



could someone stabilize the video better so I could get a better look?

STABILIZED UFO VIDEO! Istanbul UFO! 2009


[edit on 21-3-2010 by DjSharperimage]

reply to post by Damian-007


Ahem..Damian,

Please listen...there are NOT hundreds OR thousands of reports of UFO sightings, there ARE hundreds OF thousands...probably millions actually.

Thousands of people, including the state governor of Phoenix AZ, had reported seeing a massive, slow and low flying craft that blotted out a very large section of the stars in the night sky, and they saw this AT THE SAME TIME!

Many sightings such as this have made the news.

Many witnesses have been bold enough to actually come forward and make official reports.

Witnesses for example, that were deemed at one time or another mentally competent enough to have the final say over US foreign policy (President Jimmy Carter, for one), witnesses that include many top military officials and generals, various countries royalty, senior diplomats and politicians, distinguished psychologists and psychiatrists, astronomers, astronauts, cosmonauts, physicists, fighter pilots, airline pilots, in fact people from EVERY section and tier of human society...have reported these things, and the millions of man hours of film/video footage and still images available to corroborate many of the sightings.

Never mind the probably huge numbers of people that succumb to the fear of engineered ridicule and do not report what they see or the people who don't happen to have a camera handy at the time of sighting, and it all really adds up to the fact...that you have not really done your homework, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Phage
They barely had a chance to look at it unless they had nothing else to do.

LOL nice argument.
What are you, 10 years old?

[edit on 21-3-2010 by GoodFella]

reply to post by Halfburnt


Yours is probably the most honest assessment of this particular sighting/video i've read yet.

Kudos for the open mind and unbiased post mate.

Star for ya!

reply to post by GoodFella


Not wanting to put words in anyone's mouth here, but i think he was referring to the fact that the video was submitted for scientific analysis and evaluated and released on the same day.

I read this as not being particularly thorough.

But i could be wrong.

I once saw a flying-saucer UFO just identical to what they have recorded!

I am an amateur astronomer, so please don't tell me what is a UFO and what is not. I was very much in shock afterwards. My denial went away immediately, lol.

Whatever you guys say, I know that alien spaceships are real. As I said, their video (link below) is very similar to what I have seen.

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 21-3-2010 by segurelha]

Although other guys have pointed out how bad the video is...not much has been said about the source....Sirius UFO

Sirius UFO translated (google)

The Turkish 'science panel' don't appear to have any credentials on their site. In the sidebar...Michael E. Salla. The message? Disclosure is necessary and imminent...

The links on the homepage reference The Sun newspaper, Herald Sun and Sky News....owned by Rupert Murdoch/ NewsCorp. Coincidentally, NewsCorp have been exploiting the public interest in UFOs since summer 2008. They'll publish ANYTHING without checking credibility.

It's more of the same old BS really. Maybe it's a shame these sites exist? As long as people keep pointing out how much or how little credibility they have they aren't much harm. The guys that want to 'believe' tend to believe whatever suits them...logic or facts be damned