Why not pray for the defeat of Obama care?

Ask God in the name of Jesus Christ, his son, our Lord to help defeat it. No I am serious.

I am one of the little people, I don't have power, I can't bribe, threaten or reward anyone to any degree.

Ask for God's help in this matter, perhaps he will grant some intercession.


Doesn't seem so long ago that someone mentioned on this site that the Pope himself should give mass and ask God to protect us all from the "new flu". The flu season is over, we made it.

There is no God (prove me wrong)...so you might just accept a good thing instead of praying to a fictitious guy guy on a cloud to to prevent it.

Yeah praying never did anything in the real world. Let's be real here.

Jews prayed to not be killed by nazis soldiers, IT DIDN'T WORK.

Tutis probably prayed to not be killed by Hutus, DIDN'T WORK.

Praying is the refuge of the weak and the lazy.

You do what you have to do and if it ain't working, YOU TRY AGAIN.

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Originally posted by MrXYZ
There is no God (prove me wrong)...so you might just accept a good thing instead of praying to a fictitious guy guy on a cloud to to prevent it.

There is a God - prove me wrong.



That challenge is getting so old. Just because *you* aren't convinced
doesn't mean that there is any basis for your belief. Or lack of, rather.

And before it's said, God, and the Bible, have been around way longer than you or this latest generation. I'm guessing you are 30 or under years of age?

I agree wholeheartedly with the OP - Republicans, nor taxpayers can defeat this upcoming bill - but God can - if He so chooses.

But I doubt He is going to hear any significant amount of prayers - not with billions of His children boldly denouncing Him and His Bible.

Protection from Obamacare:
From those wonderful folks who brought you the inquisiton, and fondled your children!!!

This may seem like a silly post but it is not. I have heard people say, Don't pray for your country. Like God is so angry at your country that you are not even supposed to pray for it. But our country is a victim. We didn't give birth to the Nazis who are running our government. They crept in by stealth.
Toward the end of World War II people were having days of prayer and fasting all over. They were getting on their knees before God in tears asking him to save their world. We are in the same boat today.
So the Bible says at the end of the world, the anti-Christ will take over. So what. We don't know for sure if this is then. We should be standing up for what is right against clear evil. Obama care is evil and smells of fascism. These death panels are death panels. If we brush them aside and pretend we don't mind, we will usher in the kind of pragmatism that the
Germans practiced, the pragmatism that says the ends justify the means, if millions have to die horrible deaths, so be it. That is not the America I want to see. You can make light of the death panels but deciding who lives and who dies is a power that is so easy to corrupt your head would spin.
Pray for your country. Fast and pray. Pray that these evil monsters who are pushing health care and pushing the destruction of our free society will stumble and fall, will fall into their own traps.

God is good. This is the first thing you learn in Sunday School. God hates liars. That is in the Bible. Jesus loves you. He doesn't wish destruction on you. If you see destruction coming you need to pray for your country.

It says in the Bible, Cast your cares on Him because He careth for you. It says to pray for your rulers. But America is a democracy. It is ruled by the people. So pray for the people. Obama is an usurper. He lied and cheated and he may not even be who he says he is. Rev Manning claims he was undercover CIA directing money and weapons to the
Al Qaeda under cover of attending Columbia University. He won't reveal his transcripts at Columbia and its hard to find people who saw him there. But he spent the time in Russia and Afghanistan as a CIA spy. He might have even been buddies with Osama ben Laden. Obama is no Muslim. He is a Leninist and a ruthless liar. You don't have to pray for him. You can always pray for his eventual salvation. God loves everybody, even the hardest murderer.


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Originally posted by m khan
Fast and pray.

Funny, I think thats what the new house bill says to do. You summarized there entire plan for healthcare! Fast and pray (and give us your money).

According to the Bible , God is pro Gov't Health Care.

Originally posted by WXBackdoor
According to the Bible , God is pro Gov't Health Care.

ok...... verse and line please.

You might as well pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Trevor the Celestial Squid for all the good it will do.


Hear Me Oh Trevor, Celestial Squid,

Can you like... um.. send that dude Chuck Norris to Washington to pummel Obamacare into oblivion with a flying roundhouse kick? Like... I promise to never eat Calamari again OK.

Thankyou in advance Trevor! I think you rock!

IRM

Ask God in the name of Jesus Christ, his son, our Lord to help defeat it.

Jesus was a socialist.


I'm just saying...he may not respond.

James 5:16

The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

17

Elias was a man "subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain; and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months

I've known people who would pray for rain and it would rain and pray that it wouldn't rain, because they were having some outdoor activity, and it didn't. I know a girl who whatever she asked from God she would get. Material things! She needed a car, she prayed for a truck, a free truck. Her friend's brother gave her his truck, saying that he just felt that God was telling him to.
Christians like to take verses of the Bible and call them promises. You stand on a promise and trust God for it.

I can remember going to prayer meetings that were praying for the 2000 election. When Bush won they all thought their prayers were answered. They didn't know about the rigged voting machines with negative votes. They also probably weren't aware of the Bush family's involvment with JFK. I can remember, I was the only democrat there, being told that God was opposed to the democrats because they wanted to take away responsibility from the individual and usher in socialism.

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Originally posted by InfaRedMan
You might as well pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Trevor the Celestial Squid for all the good it will do.


Hear Me Oh Trevor, Celestial Squid,

Can you like... um.. send that dude Chuck Norris to Washington to pummel Obamacare into oblivion with a flying roundhouse kick? Like... I promise to never eat Calamari again OK.

Thankyou in advance Trevor! I think you rock!

IRM

Maybe you have never been down there. Where? Down there and could not get up. Lucky you.

You don't have to believe in one thing that you don't have to. Some believe in Obama, and by some logical extension believe on Obama care.

Well anyway take care and take care of yourself. Best wishes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again here -


Satan has billions of you guys right where he wants you.

But still you choose to make it so easy for him.



As time rolls on, God will be showing us more and more signs - of His existence, as well as His return.

Ats'ers crack me up sometimes - they'll believe in tiny green men that are projected out of the HAARP machine - but denounce their own Creator as a myth or joke.

Insert sad face again.

I think OP you would have more results with `` Why not PAY for the defeat of Obamacare?``

Vultures only respond to bribes, rotten corpses or money...your choice.

[edit on 19-3-2010 by Vitchilo]

Originally posted by m khan
James 5:16

The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

17

Elias was a man "subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain; and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months

I've known people who would pray for rain and it would rain and pray that it wouldn't rain, because they were having some outdoor activity, and it didn't. I know a girl who whatever she asked from God she would get. Material things! She needed a car, she prayed for a truck, a free truck. Her friend's brother gave her his truck, saying that he just felt that God was telling him to.
Christians like to take verses of the Bible and call them promises. You stand on a promise and trust God for it.

I can remember going to prayer meetings that were praying for the 2000 election. When Bush won they all thought their prayers were answered. They didn't know about the rigged voting machines with negative votes. They also probably weren't aware of the Bush family's involvment with JFK. I can remember, I was the only democrat there, being told that God was opposed to the democrats because they wanted to take away responsibility from the individual and usher in socialism.

[edit on 19-3-2010 by m khan]

A well done post. There is a sound scientific reason why our thoughts can reach out, but we don't understand it yet. Hopefully, there is time for us to learn.

I feel that if I have any special abilities as a telepath it arises through my faith. So if the CIA got my DNA and cloned me the replicant might not have such abilities. They come from faith.

Jesus said shut up and pay your taxes: Matthew 22:21

Jesus said try not to get sued: Matthew 5:25

Jesus said politics are not all that important: John 18:36

The Apostles said let's all be socialists: Acts 2:44, 4:32

...I'm just saying, Jesus sounds more like the guy to protest the wars than to protest healthcare reform.

Ask God in the name of Jesus Christ, his son, our Lord to help defeat it. No I am serious. I am one of the little people, I don't have power, I can't bribe, threaten or reward anyone to any degree. Ask for God's help in this matter, perhaps he will grant some intercession. Doesn't seem so long ago that someone mentioned on this site that the Pope himself should give mass and ask God to protect us all from the "new flu". The flu season is over, we made it.

god only helps those who help themselves... This way he doesn't have to do any work, and he gets all the credit...

Magnum

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I would think the creation of just Planet Earth, alone, would be more "work" than I'd care to have to do.

And then populate it with a gabazillion human beings who spend their time denouncing the Creation, the Creator, and that their favorite didn't win on American Idol.

Originally posted by chorizo4
Why not pray for the defeat of Obama care? Ask God in the name of Jesus Christ, his son, our Lord to help defeat it. No I am serious.

Go for it! Whilst you might not get the outcome you hoped, you will reinforce the idea of a lunatic Religious Right who think they have a telephone to their God.