The Secret Covenant Of the Illuminati and masons

ATS Member PuPP Originally posted on ATS in 2003 and is also on various other sources on the internet.

The subject is quite intriguing, but this is a duplicate thread and the post before me links to another author who has blatantly plagiarized by posting his name and claiming to have written it.

reply to post by 12.21.12


the original author in my link made no claims to have written it, only to have recieved it from a girl whos grandfather was a part of the masons

Not much a secret if its spread all over the internet.

Originally posted by Prime-Vector
reply to post by 12.21.12

 

the original author in my link made no claims to have written it, only to have recieved it from a girl whos grandfather was a part of the masons

So a girl who's grandfather may or may not be a Mason surfs the web? I'm shocked!

Originally posted by RuneSpider
I'm starting to get a kick out of these.
Every few months we get a secret Illuminati declaration, a Reptilian interview, or some other similar document.
Pretty entertaining.

Heh, I had the same exact thought.
Although, the "doctrine" says nothing about the Freemasons or the "Illuminati".
So...someone want to clue me in as to what exactly this is all about?

reply to post by Prime-Vector


In all honesty I doubt that any Freemason would come into contact with such a document. I would expect that if such a document were to surface that it was intended to be read only by members of a bloodline order and not one where initates. Not saying that the document is not real, just that the origins of the document if true would have came from an order such as the Rosricucians or Illuminatti, but probably not freemasons.

Isn't it amazing that people who are not members of the Masonic fraternity seem to know so much more about what goes on in Masonry than actual members?
And...most of these same people claim to have such an in-depth understanding of Satanism, without actually being a Satanist.
It's astounding.
Oh...did I say astounding...I meant ridiculous.

Any names and agents.
Rockefeller tried to explain UFOs to us at one time.
He failed.
The Illuminati must exist of hundreds of companies and agents
and head men.

If you keep a open mind there's truths in that document, now do i think the masons and Illuminati are linked..... yea but at the highest of levels and more so to do with the european branches but there linked because i'm sure at one time there was a mason that was also part of the secret government.


But alot of masons join not for that reason but for the whole brotherhood aspect and don't even know or think any of this gos on but it's kind of like this not every Oakland Raider player who played with them in the 70's and early 80's were dirty players but because a few were they all were considered dirty players....fair no but true.

People can work for large corporations and not learn the
company secrets.
That might apply to secret or private groups or societies.

If working in Area 51 and the guards have the guns taken away.
That less security means the work there is not that important
any more.

Secrets can be shielded by layers of people and documents but
public patented products have a limited life.

The film industry still uses film but setting up a home movie
projector and movie screen so everyone can see has to be
done on large screen TVs now as video secrets have outdated
home movies.

So if an organization still stands in the wake of progress there
must good solid secrets behind them.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


I would say someone who actually works for the company would stand a much greater chance of finding them out than someone who doesn't work there, right?

That was originally the entire point of Operative Stonemasons. It took years and years of training to learn the secret arts of building with stone. Those secrets were jealously guarded because stonemasons were very well-paid and one of the only classes allowed to travel to foreign lands to work and earn money.

It also says a lot for how knowledge is transferred. Just because you have a book or website on being a stonemason does not mean you can build a building.

Reading about it, even watching it, would never be enough to completely understand it. The tolerances are so tight and the finishing of the stones so perfect that it takes years of learning under a skilled master to get it right.

It's not that the master builder can't tell you his secrets, it's that you would have no idea what he meant unless you actually built a temple.

reply to post by emsed1


Very nicely put.

That is a great analogy and you described it beautifully.

And people do not get into Area 51 past the guards unless
they join a secret society.

A secret society of builders perhaps.

Look what happened to one Lazar that worked in their
secret lair that is called a liar by the secret society henchmen.

Russia and other countries have the same secrets all being
suppressed by the same people.

The word is don't go there, keep on shipping oil or some other
investment and don't worry about it unless you hear of a slip up
and then swarm to suppress the information.

Everyone grows into a specialized field by years of work and
schooling unless a specialty arises like high steel workers and
code talkers at one time for the Native American.

Then you have people like Dr. Fell disproving that assumption
( no travel to America in the B.C.) causing the society of authority
over the teaching of History to be on the offensive.

So we have those that say such societies are natural and the
norm until some objection is raised and I'd say every one
duck from the battle of words.