My boss told me I can't visit ATS

reply to post by Misoir


G'day Misoir

I have not read all of the comments in your thread. Nevertheless my thoughts are as follows.....

Don't upset your boss.....you don't want to lose your job.

Have you asked him why he feels so strongly about it?.....Perhaps he's had a bad experience with a friend of family member who's been getting strange ideas from the wrong sort of site.

If your boss is just a total SOB no matter what.....then find another job before you give him a piece of your mind or demand your rights.

Good luck

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Contact your Human Resources Dept.. This guy may be pushing his authority where it can't go. Then again, maybe it does...

When you do, be courteous. Professional. Above all, don't be angry. Lay out your case. Your thoughts on the matter, and ask for clarification. Then, and only then, make a decision.

Good luck.

I have to concur with some of the folks above. The guy has it in for you. Has there been a pattern of this sort of thing? Has he made comments about anything else? Performance? Attire? Tardiness? Attitude? I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong but if he's been making any such comments about you then chances are he's just building himself a list of things to present to the higher ups to get rid of you.

I also concur with those telling you to keep your options open. Don't leave unless you have something else, of course, but look around. This doesn't sound like a positive environment for you.

Good luck!!


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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
Know that he's an A-hole
Know that he's on a power trip.
Know that you need a job.
Start looking for another job.
Get his home address.
Sign him up for every free porn subscription you can find.

Better yet, put him on Scientologty's mailing list. They'll make his life miserable and he'll have to spend oodles of time and effort to get off the list!

That's a bit cruel and probably illegal so I must say I'm just joking there.

Seriously, good luck. I don't have any words of wisdom as it seems you have to give up your soul to work for a corporation these days. Basically you lose all rights to grievances and either have to put up with all the crap or leave and leaving is a problem in this economy. Not too many jobs out there.

You can go above his head and try to get him in trouble, but that will only put him in the "out to get you" mode. You'll get to use ATS on your lunch break again, but you'll probably just find yourself getting seriously disciplined for minor violations that would ordinarily just get you a "no-no" speech.

That's just the way all *ahem*-headed bosses work. It's all about the power trip.

I suggest you forget about the ATS issue. Instead, get him fired for refusing to pay your overtime and not letting you take your paid vacation time. File a lawsuit and watch how fast Corporate shows his *ahem* the door.

[edit on 14-3-2010 by mattifikation]

reply to post by Misoir


I only read the first page.

My advice to you? DO NOT TAKE LEGAL ADVICE FROM ATS MEMBERS. I cannot believe how irresponsible the people giving "legal advice" are. If you really want to know your rights consult a lawyer - or - just let it go and look for a new job. You can be absolutely certain that anyone giving legal advice based on this thread IS NOT an attorney - and believe me, "at will" employment suits are very complicated. If you go the route of suing... be prepared to spend mega $$$ up front and also be prepared to be up against corporate funds. They can wait you out while you go broke.

[edit on 14/3/2010 by Iamonlyhuman]

Originally posted by Misoir
I work weekends at a grocery store called Win Dixie. Yesterday I was on a lunch break and the store supervisor walked up to me while I was sitting on a bench and on ATS via my laptop and he walked over and leaned against the wall. Then he leaned forward and told me that he doesn't want me visiting these websites because they lie and distort facts. I was stunned and did not reply, and then he started to walk away and told me if he catches me on this website again I will be fired.

First off why does it even matter that I am on ATS while on break? Second how could he fire me for just visiting a website that is perfectly safe and legal? What is this guy’s problem and can he legally fire me for this. I don't understand what the problem is I was on a lunch break.

[edit on 3/14/10 by Misoir]

How can you be a Patriots fan if you're from Florida!?


BANDWAGONER!!!!!

Dude you must have a lot more self-control than I do. And I think I`m pretty patient person. But I would have walked out on the spot and made as big of a scene as possible. But just to be clear I would make sure that his rule was that I wasn`t allowed to be on the site even on my own time, at home for example. But if he simply doesn`t want that site displayed on his property, then I would have to respect that. But then, if it WASN`T his property and he was only the shift-supervisor, in that case I would comply for the moment until I had a chance to talk to the owner or at least this supervisor schmuck`s boss and at this point I would present my case along with any extra compromises I would be willing to make in order to keep this particular liberty such as; agreeing not to bother the customers with my theories (at least while on the property and while on-duty, if you meet up after work at a different location, thats your business) and maybe I would agree to only look at the site in the breakroom and not out in the store(which I believe you said you were doing it in the back room right?). But ya if he doesn`t want this site on display for emplpoyees and such to view then you at least should have the right to do what you like when you leave his property at the end of the shift, provided you are not wearing a unionform with his logo or look. but if none of that worked =I would try to make him lose as many customers and employees as possible. You have to stand up to people like this


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Leave politics out of work

and you'll be fine.

It's your computer, your wireless, and your time. The guy is an idiot and doesn't have a leg to stand on. Start keeping a log of this harassment and check out your state's employment discrimination laws.

Talk to an attorney with a speciality in employment law too. You won't have real and consequential damages until you're fired but I would start doing the leg-work now.

Finally, Winn Dixie's "IT Policy" doen't mean squat. YOUR COMPUTER, YOUR WIRELESS, YOUR TIME (lunches/breaks, etc.)

good luck, dude!

reply to post by Misoir


WD fired someone for doing drag on weekends at a gay bar. Never anything during work, just outside of work. That was in the late 90's. Apparently Winn Dixie (The Beef People) have this illusion that they can control their underpaid employees during and outside of work.

He cannot control what you do off the clock like that, and if he fires you over it, see if the drag queen can't connect you with the same lawyer that fired up a pretty decent out of court settlement.

Im your boss you idiot!! What THE HELL YOU DOING ON ATS?

im joking.

reply to post by Misoir


If you are on a non paid break, you are able to do whatever you want. your boss can not tell you which websites you can visit on your private time. It doesnt matter what your state laws are. you cannot be fired for viewing a website on Non Paid Time. You can contact your local labour board for more information. But I guarentee if he doesnt want you on the site then hes in some sort of organization that is against posts on this site.

I see everything from advice from inexperienced young people to emotionally charged bad advice.

When at your workplace you must comply with your employers wishes, lunch hour or not. Jerk or not, your boss can let you go without fear. They are paying you, you are not paying them.

When at your workplace you represent the company. Your attire can be controlled, what topics or conversations you are allowed to discuss and what behavior you are to exhibit while representing them.

Any attorney that would get involved in that would be an ambulance chaser you would not want anyway.

If you are unhappy, keep working, keep your mouth shut and stay there until after you are hired elsewhere. If you want control, start your own business.

Hopefully that job is just to pay for your school. Until you have value, you have no freedom on any job. To get value, you must learn skills, either in school or on the job.

Angry bosses at workplaces like that are the norm. Your boss is stuck in a dead end job himself.

Education is everything in this world and I don't mean what you are learning here.

[edit on 3/14/2010 by Blaine91555]

Since you were on property, I would say he could have a "right" to say don't be on this website while on property. This also could extend to your car if it is parked in the lot, to me it would be along the same lines of letting the drug dogs sniff around cars at schools.

I'd just leave ATS at home..like someone else said, politics don't belong at work.

On another note...if this guy really does have these shady practices regarding overtime and such, it is your DUTY to report him. It doesn't matter if it is happening to you or not, it's an injustice. If you report him for that after you get fired, you will look like a disgruntled employee. Waiting to report things is NEVER good.

And I am quite appalled about the inspector thing, they both should be reported. By putting this on here, it could be argued that you are liable as well. That's people's health they are messing with. (I know some "expiration" dates are suggestions, but they are put there for a reason)

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Leave politics out of work

and you'll be fine.

My thoughts exactly, obviously we don't know the whole story but my theory of the situation is this.

You probably talk about conspiracies in the open air at work a lot and you might think you are entitled to talk about whatever you want at work while in a grocery store, that is simply untrue. It's just like cursing. You're political views and conspiracies and related stuff are offensive to some.

If this is not the case I'm sorry, but in my experience a simple viewing a website will not cause a management type to freak out, there has to be a reason behind it.

The thing that would worry me is if you have somewhere in you're contract about not being able to view certain sites, and if they have the right to ask you to cease if you're browsing a site they deem wrong after it has passed through their filters and had time to examine it. This could be the case, and if it is my thouts about it are that big companies normally have these policies as to keep there selfs clean from investigations, not because they are worried what kind of content you are viewing.

It would be because they are trying to avoid investigations, they have to comply with request for information, that requires a staff to work, meaning more money. Everything comes down to the bottom line with these guys. And that means they know already these sites are being watched and filtered by the government, If they are filtering for it you can be sure the feds are.


Edit: there are open posts about how they want to overthrow the government here, and to join up for the causes i have seen. That is a very touchy subject i'd imagine. And in my honest opinion should not be aloud on this kind of site. I'd imagine thats what all the fuss is about.



[edit on 14-3-2010 by BetweenTheLine]

continue doing it, if he ever tells you that again tell him you know your employee rights and will report him to HR for harassment watch how fast he walks away.

It is not legal to fire you for this reason. IF it were during work and distracting you from doing your work properly thats a different thing. But this is in your lunchbreak so he doesnt have any rule that support him on that.

Either.

1: he is a very intelligent man,who knows about alot of the info wich comes up here and is scared by the site and probably only wants to protect you,cause Much of the info on this site is not ment for normal human beings to even understand or grasp at. ( He is still not allowed to do this,and if you are unsure,there are ALOT of professional lawyers using this site,ask them for aid=)

2: he is a brainwashed human being with alot of weird\dangerous views of many things in life,those people can be very dangerous.

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This is a site wich many of the high ranked government employes has been a part of,former CIA\FBI\NASA ect. It is a very good reason why Obama per today want to shut this site down. If you havent heard it before, some members of this site has lost their own lives just to get the hold of secret information.

Keep visiting and make sure your are recording when he checks on you again. if you have a web cam turn that on too. Then if he threatens you or fires you make sure to tell him by the way I was recording some other stuff and now you are on record with those comments also.

Originally posted by Archirvion

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This is a site wich many of the high ranked government employes has been a part of,former CIA\FBI\NASA ect. It is a very good reason why Obama per today want to shut this site down. If you havent heard it before, some members of this site has lost their own lives just to get the hold of secret information.

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I would be surprised to see any official outside officiates and office drones even acknowledging ATS ... I would really appreciate you starting a thread with that information substantiated somehow.

Or were you being sarcastic?

[edit on 14-3-2010 by Maxmars]