Getting High Without Drugs

AV3X

its got these prism glasses and the DVD is just crazy looking fractal patterns with strobing lights and sounds designed to put you in a meditative state.

I hear they made a sequel AV3X2 or is it AV4X, not sure.


Meditation, opening chakras.

I prefer real drugs though. natural highs wont expand your consciousness the way 10 hits of '___' will.

these are all great ways to increaase dmt, a natural psychedelic chemical occuring in the brain that has '___' qualities, so really even if you don't do drugs you can never escape a chemical high haha

ps you can buy dmt now in concentrated forms, my question to you is, if you buy a natural occuring chemical in the brain and consume it to get a natural high, would you consider yourself to be using drugs? is it still a natural high?

[edit on 3/15/2010 by indigothefish]

Originally posted by neformore
Very heavy beats and basslines tend to work for me,

Bass itself, in any Form, is a Drug many would agree.

Only thing better than hearing instruments is playing them.

[edit on 15-3-2010 by Skyfloating]

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Well....mucking about with them

One of these days Illustrial will do a track solely based on..bass

That will be fun. Mucking with subharmonics and stuff. Could be cool.

thats some really cool stuff!

I've heard of similar things like this. There is a website called I-dose, and you can get similar feelings to drugs like Cocaine, weed, speed, etc just by listening to some sounds. you can listen to the demo for free and you feel weird lol

heres another way.
go to a metal concert
listen to the music-get lost in it
jump in the mosh pit-if you don't want to get messed up then trash dance flail your arms etc

also playing videogames is great too for me it's a release especially when i do something incredible
like once on modern warfare 2 i ran out of ammo and threw a knife at a guy, my aim was off and the knife hit the ground naer the guy, however to my surprise the knife bounced up and hit the guy. needless to say i was stoked i got the game winning kill and seeing it on the game winning kill camera made me want to jump up and do a dance(i didn't i have more self control than that) however i had a huge rush of enorphines. and im still stoked about it

nice thread i lie it

i noticed that after my gym working i barely can read my membership card due to distorted vision

and noticed that i am always happier than the time i went in..so a big YES to sports..it gets you high

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what about the Intervention Sniper..makes me high too (with fast reload Pro which gives me fast aiming)....also being the last one in SD i noticed heartbeat increase and sometime a rush of heat form my body

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I play codmw2 all the time, and nothing is more exciting than running around with the Magnum w/ the Tactical Knife. the fact that you KNOW you have to be quick and stealthy enough to kill an enemy makes you focus that much more. I almost jump when I kill somebody, because they rarely expect it and its such a quick kill. It's also fun when you chase somebody who has no idea you're behind them, waiting to get close enough to attack!

Originally posted by BtotheG
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I play codmw2 all the time, and nothing is more exciting than running around with the Magnum w/ the Tactical Knife. the fact that you KNOW you have to be quick and stealthy enough to kill an enemy makes you focus that much more. I almost jump when I kill somebody, because they rarely expect it and its such a quick kill. It's also fun when you chase somebody who has no idea you're behind them, waiting to get close enough to attack!

even better is afterwards they scream WHAT THE # YOU NOOB!!!!
it's hilarious i love it

Originally posted by heineken
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what about the Intervention Sniper..makes me high too

(with fast reload Pro which gives me fast aiming)....also being the last one in SD i noticed heartbeat increase and sometime a rush of heat form my body

i know it's great but even better is the last on sd with the ninja and cold blooded perk.
stalk your prey they never see it coming
excellent rush

Well this isn't exactly a healthy alternative for drugs but its worked a couple times just as well... This is something that has happened to me during Track practice it's when I get de-hydrated after running too much. I'll push myself over the limit while running a workout and when I stop I lie down and the world starts spinning and I see lights and rainbows and random visions and I can't stand back up because I'm so dizzy and my body is powerless to move. Because my body is de-hydrated I'll be unable to get up and walk anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes.

As I said, this isn't a healthy alternative at all, one time I was in the hospital a few hours later to get hydrated with IV fluids, and another time I went home and I slept for 14 hours straight and was sick the whole next day. So I wouldn't recommend consciously de-hydrating yourself while running a workout, but if it does happen, it is a pretty wacked up experience.

Listen with HEADPHONES in the dark, relax, go on a trip! Explore the astral!

Astral Projection

Deep Meditation

Explore the Void

Alpha 528 Freq

Sounds of Jupiter

Use HEADPHONES - Relax/Meditate/Trip - On SOUND ALONE!

I can attest to the "high" that comes from weight training. The harder I concentrate to maintain proper form and speed, and the more complete the workout is, the better this "high" is. And I'm not even in very good shape (at ALL really,) but I can definitely tell it does something very good to my brain and state of mind.

Not to mention the sense of satisfaction and having a goal you're progressing toward.

Getting high without drugs.

Listening to Tchaikovsky !

1812 Overture

Piano Concerto #1

Listening to Rossini !

La Calunnia >2.00

Overture Il barbiere di Siviglia

Listening to Sibelius !

Karelia - Intermezzo

Finlandia

Listening to Elgar !

Cello Concerto

Pomp and Circumstance March #1

one can get high with all those things,but i admit,the only drug i've consumed(marihuana) doesn't beat that high,but boy,its really amazing how it affects you.

I see there are a lot of ways to get high without the use of "drugs" here.

I have done mushrooms and smoke MJ on a occasional basis. I have also experienced the altered states that music, meditation and exercise can bring forth.

What I really like is a combination of some of these factors. Like, the effects of marijuana combined with music and lying down in bed.
The experience of becoming one with the music, weaving in and out of
intricate geometric patterns that follow the rhythm.

But, I have never aqquired this state without the combination of the three.
So, can anyone attest to the possibility of this?

And I do not mean one of these states, it is the combination that mostly intrigues me.

I see each component of the state mentioned as a potentiator for the experience of it whole.

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edit: wow, metorex beat me to it, though in a compressed version.
Yes, that is the essence of my question.

Is there a natural way to mimic the exact effects of marijuana, and the state it puts me in?

[edit on 17-3-2010 by khataton]

Originally posted by khataton
Is there a natural way to mimic the exact effects of marijuana, and the state it puts me in?

Deep Relaxation while staying awake. Staying awake while getting down to what is known as "Delta State".

Some feedback on reading this thread and trying some stuff...

meditation works well for me, it has for decades - I have been in states of mind compared to which '___' is a kindergarten (I tried meditating first then acid several times and other natural things - then switched back to meditation) but please do not get hooked upon some weird theocratic guru who will suck your power and f**ck your girlfreind because there are some that do that sirt of stuff routinely

recently I am doing more and more chi gong and taichi (yang style which is very soft and mild in contrast to its name) - and hereby I give thanks to the thoughtful qigong harmony posts placed on here, I will adopt this silk-rolling exercise - no doubt much other exercise works but this is very well worked out by an ancient people - you can start even if you feel weak and slow - then you gradually get stronger and stronger
if anyone wants to watch a great American qigong master showing healing practices meticuously on youtube go to see grandmaster of shunshentao david harris

some binaural tones work well for me (I have not experienced actual psychedelic highs from I-doser but they are definitely nice and somewhat mind-altering - but there are much more advanced methods, try lifeflow meditation pack with phased sounds that will carry people away who do not respond to binaural

and naturally, in respect of a content-wise feeling-thinking, human and animal highs, such as stroking a sweet child, touching or feeding a pet or a seeing a fantastic animal closer than usual and imagining what it would be like in its shoes - and generally love in its various forms

the opposite sex (this can be tricky though)

last but not least when my first child was accidentally home-born with only me and my first wife present in our tiny fifth floor walkup (there was a baseball match in baltimore so they would not let us back to the birth center and the midwife was not there on time either)

i started feeling an lsd like high from the love and harmony and it lasted for weeks - i slept little. that child is already 21 years old and is writing science fiction in english

ok nobody mentioned crytals which are a gentle addition to natural mind altering but i have been a jeweller for a while and some crystals carefully chosen for astrology and personal feeling can change your feelings within the real world pretty soon

last but not least ericksonian hypnosis, nlp techniques of therapy and guided meditation, hellinger style family constellation therapy

talking to spirits and et's

good luck to all here

maybe it would be good to set up a scholarship for studying this type of topic

froma collector of trances

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That's an awesome story about your home-born first child. Love is real and I've been posting on my love energy training from qigong master Chunyi Lin who works with the Mayo Clinic, the world's top hospital. springforestqigong.com... is his site and he can see inside your body and read your past lives! He does long distance healing all the time and you can call for a phone healing if anyone needs one. He trained an African American kung fu master to be a qigong master as well -- I saw the transition and was asked to write a book with him. But the spirits are not into the left-brain dominance of words -- the real training is very very harmonized so that any impurity in diet or emotion or thought creates blockages that then have to be transformed.

Seeing dead spirits and being able to create water through the third eye and go without food and have telepathy and precognition and telekinesis and finally to do spacetime astral travel -- long distance healing. Truly in qigong we submit to our nonexistence -- to the universal love as reality -- we LISTEN to the truth that no one is listening.

I just sit in full lotus now as much as possible. The healing is intense but best when in Nature -- with animals as they don't have the left-brain dominance and so their body energy connects to their brain through the right hemisphere, and the pineal gland.

I'll check out the qigong master you recommend for youtube. Thanks.