The documentary that explains how the explosives were planted the weekend before...

reply to post by SPreston

Since the core structures are centered in the towers, it is sensible to theorize that the explosive forces originated from the core structures.

Would you do everyone a favor?

Go with that working hypothesis, please, then explain, using the proper maths and engineering physics. HOW MUCH force would have been required, by these alleged "explosives" in the central core to have "hurled" the exterior wall sections?? How did you phrase, it again? They each weighed several tons?

Again, just to be clear on you assertions:

Massive explosions, in the central core large and powerful enough to "hurl" extremely heavy outer wall sections ~600 feet. Explosions that, by their very nature, would have had to form a compression wave, using only the material around it (mostly air, maybe some debris) to effect this force on the outer wall sections...sections which, by the way, had gaps for the windows in them, so some of the forces would have been ineffective...

YET, there is no audible evidence for these enormous blasts?

Oh, and when does the super "nano-thermite/thermate" figure into all of this???

reply to post by weedwhacker


Well you have just demonstrated why we are still asking questions.

What is the explanation for the ejection of huge sections 600ft?

You can come here all day long putting down any, and every, hypothesis brought forward by what you describe as 'truthers', but you either never offer a good alternative hypothesis, or you link to some vague offer of an explanation based mostly on assumptions and hollywood physics.
e.g. the gravity-compression-spring hypothesis, or whatever you call it.

That's why we're not satisfied with the OS and are still asking questions.

reply to post by weedwhacker

We don't know what explosives were used. We only know the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY is ridiculous and cannot possibly be true. That is why we want a real investigation.

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FACT: Hundreds of 4 ton exterior wall sections were hurled up to 600 feet away in all directions from both towers. At the same time the concrete and contents of the towers was pulverized into fine powder.

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FACT: Molten steel was reported by firemen flowing like lava and hot temperatures of 1341 degrees were recorded by NASA under the WTC after 5 days of cooling.

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FACT: Heavy core beams were discovered bent like horseshoes without stress cracks which requires extreme heat to accomplish.

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FACT: Multiple explosions were reported by firemen, reporters, tower employees, and civilians prior to the aircraft impacts, prior to the building collapses, and during the building collapses.



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FACT: There is strong photographic evidence taken by the NYPD and others, that some of the core columns were sheared with explosives and were very hot at the shear point and smoking, during the tower collapse.

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FACT: NIST, one of the primary investigative teams for the WTC has been caught repeatedly lying, rendering all their work suspect. Their work is shoddy and they refuse to follow up on unfinished business. They are not qualified to investigate a capital crime nor anything else.

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I could keep going on couldn't I weedwhacker?

But I think this is more than sufficient reason to demand a real investigation into 9-11.

Don't you whacker?

[edit on 3/13/10 by SPreston]

Wow, there is a lot of great information in this thread.

I'm just hoping people can add more to it...

reply to post by Diplomat


They had ten years to wire for explosives. Pretty sure the "power down" is just more distraction.

Some WTC History
You Might Not Know

from a video-talk on the Dawson-Perry Report
at the Portland Central Library, 7/12/05,

I lived in New York in the 1960's, when the World Trade Center and the twin towers were going up. The 60's was an era of intense urban destruction and frantic build-up in New York. Some of the areas targeted for "development" looked like they had been bombed, while other outlying areas, redlined by the banks, decayed into abandoned free-fire zones. The downtown mega-development known as the World Trade Center was the brainchild of the Rockefellers. I remember photos in The New York Times of Nelson and David glowing over architect's models of those obscene towers.

You never see the name "Rockefeller" in any of the official post-911 WTC histories. The golden name has been disassociated from the dark imagery of 911. (Also, what is a conspiracy theory without a Rockefeller in it?)
The Rockefeller clout teamed up with the powerful New York and New Jersey Port Authorities, and this urban-removal juggernaut destroyed 75 blocks of historic lower Manhattan.

Farewell, Radio Row.

This targeted area included a neighborhood I loved called Radio Row. The district began in the 1920's and grew into an experimenter's dream world of many blocks where exotic surplus electronics, the fall-out of defense technology, spilled out into the street. The electronics storekeepers organized. God knows how many other downtown communities organized. They got little coverage in The Times. All resistance was crushed.
Did the Rockefellers sign off on the 911 demolition? I don't know. One slender Rockefeller connection (through NBC and 911) is Paul Bremmer, the protege of Henry Kissenger, who, in turn, was the protege of the Rockefellers. Interviewed on NBC that momentous morning Bremmer was so on-message with the official propaganda line that I have speculated (in my NBC Spins 911) that the bin Laden memo all the media was reading from that day may have originated at Bremmer's own desk.

WTC already doomed.

That grandiose Titanic called the World Trade Center, which had been planned to last for at least a century, soon revealed itself to be an engineering stupidity and technological embarrassment. The facade, made of cast aluminum, had been directly connected to the steel superstructure. This caused a battery-like electric flow between the two metals resulting in what's known as galvanic corrosion. This problem had been text-book predictable in the marine-air environment of lower Manhattan, hence the embarrassment.
The formidable-looking facade, weakening day by day, was in danger of peeling off and falling into the street. Another built-in irreversible problem was that the WTC buildings were full of asbestos. They may have been "sick buildings" in other environmental ways. The twin towers were white elephants waiting for replacement. The entire WTC complex, including Building 7, had become, prematurely expendable. Consider, though, that the WTC had paid for itself and profited the investors and profited various landlords, public and private, over and over during its life. Also consider the pressure of insatiable New York developers to raze anything in sight on any pretext and to build anew the latest gleaming office structures for the corporations and luxury condos for the new booming yuppie class.

WTC demolition planned in '80's

A demolition was actually planned out in detail for the twin towers in the 1980's. The planners engaged architects, developed estimates for a complete take-down and rebuild, and the architects drafted conceptual drawings.

The demolition of such gigantic steel structures, with their thick concrete floors, if lawfully performed in conformance with New York City codes, would have been an immensely arduous and expensive task and was estimated back then at $5.6 billion. (This included the slow and laborious task of cutting, with oxy-acetylene torches, the giant hardened steel members of the high-rise structures. In those days you could not so easily melt steel, as for example with kerosene, the official physics for this process having not been in place until a few weeks after September 11, 2001).

I watched such a New York demolition proceed on an old steel and concrete high-rise from my midtown office window at Third Avenue and 51st in the late 1960's. Using cutting torches, workers laboriously severed the old steel members into manageable sections one-by-one. Then they drilled holes into the thick concrete floors and placed small dynamite charges within. A huge ponderous steel net was laid down over the floor area to be blasted.

When the shrill warning whistle blew, I knew to swivel my chair toward the window. Then, bang, and the heavy steel net jumped. The net contained all the shattered concrete debris within. Workers hosed down the area with water to suppress the dust. Then the workers had to gather up the concrete chunks and cart them to funnels that conducted the debris down into dump trucks below. This went on for months, floor by floor.
The same slow, expensive, labor-intensive procedures would have been required had the twin towers been lawfully deconstructed.

In 1989 the architects assigned to the WTC demolition were told that the entire project had been cancelled and that their office, located in the WTC, was to be closed. One source states that someone told the architects that, "In 10 to 12 years they are going to blow it up and start over."

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