Turning your back to the flag?

Originally posted by deleted The simple fact remains that nobody can force her to adhere to constitutional protocol.

Yes, the Constitution is a *contract* between the leaders of America & the Citizens. No citizen is *required* to follow that contract...Until the day they're going into a government Office that *does* require them to take the Oath to "defend & uphold the Constitution". This is why the current administration (& most others for the past 50 years, at least) have earned my ire.
I respect that she had the ability to *express* her opinion without facing a firing squad...I'd be just as bad as Hitler if I tried to deny her that ability, whether I agree with her or not.
The way Bush is going though, I'm watching for that ability to be taken away from *all* of us citizens.

As far as I concern . She's very lucky to live in a country that allows such a thing to go on. If she did that in some other third world country .... who knows ? She probably would be put to death . God bless America !

all that for a stupid flag that represents the freedom of the indians who lived there before you, who you've killed and chased away?

The US flag is equal to liberty and freedom. Turning your back to that flag is turning your back to liberty and freedom.

I'll just quote Mad Scientist : " Besides in several months from now she'll be another nobody. And she will always be remembered as a person who shunned their flag."

When her kids will ask her what she was doing when her country needed her support, she will shamefull to say : I was turning my back !

Originally posted by ultra_phoenix
The US flag is equal to liberty and freedom. Turning your back to that flag is turning your back to liberty and freedom.

Flags represent countrys, not freedom and liberty, that's what they've made you believe the U.S. flag stands for.

I'll just quote Mad Scientist : " Besides in several months from now she'll be another nobody. And she will always be remembered as a person who shunned their flag."

The cattle judges.....

When her kids will ask her what she was doing when her country needed her support, she will shamefull to say : I was turning my back !

Don't forget to mention why they would need her support for!


Besides, it's the statue of the enlightened one that represents American 'freedom'

[Edited on 3-3-2003 by alienaddicted]

Originally posted by alienaddicted

1) Don't forget to mention why they would need her support for!

2) Besides, it's the statue of the enlightened one that represents American 'freedom'

1) What do you mean exactely ?

2) " freedom " ? Why not just freedom, without the " " ? Are you skeptic ?

1. What she should be supporting for??, you may not forget to mention that.

2. Americans aren't even free to know what happens in their own country. American 'Freedom'

Originally posted by alienaddicted
1. What she should be supporting for??, you may not forget to mention that.

2. Americans aren't even free to know what happens in their own country. American 'Freedom'

1) She should support her nation.

2) Ok, may be that you can tell us what happen then ?

I still don't think people realize what I'm trying to say. The American flag represents many things, but in my opinion the #1 thing is Freedom. She is using her freedom (gave to her by Americans who died to keep the Flag flying) to turn her back on freedom. There are many people who oppsose this war, and MANY better ways to protest. It's like a doctor performing an operation on her so she could live a better life, then turning her back on him because he did something that she doesn't agree with. Maybe not a great example, best I could come up with. Wave a sign, march, write your congressman, anything but using your freedom to turn your back on freedom.

Originally posted by ultra_phoenix

Originally posted by alienaddicted
1. What she should be supporting for??, you may not forget to mention that.

2. Americans aren't even free to know what happens in their own country. American 'Freedom'

1) She should support her nation.

doing sick stuff?

2) Ok, may be that you can tell us what happen then ?

What are we looking for here on ATS???

I wonder if she turns her back on her paycheck?Probably not.She makes a living here,lives an easy life here,and pretty much does what she likes.
I think she is trying to get a little attention.Really its not that big a deal.All things considered she is a nobody.If it really makes people that mad,we can just turn our backs when she is on the court.I just change the channel when they bring her up.

echelon, too bad most WW2 and Vietnam verterans don't see your point and would probably disagree with you if you presented that to them.

while she could certainly have my airline miles to offer her services as a human shield, I think she has every right in the world to be wrong. And I couldn't put it better than Winston.

It is a disgrace, the flag does not represent Bush. The flag represents America and turing your back on it, turing it up side down (Ycon), or buring it means you are disrespecting America and I for one will consider you a bad American for doing so. What's next? Some soccer player will make rude noies during the national athem??? It is madness, when she did that she disrespected America.

That is not protest, if she *hates* America so much then she should get the hell out! Be good if we do begin to deport all these American haters who live in the country.

Originally posted by Illmatic67


Although I never recite the pledge of allegiance in school because it's unconstitutional

Hate to start a fight here Illmatic but how the hell is the Pledge of Allegiance "unconstitutional"?

I agree with you nyeff, that she is a nobody trying to get attention. It just really ticked me off that somebody would do this. I was surprised to see on this post so many people supporting what she did. I know she has the right, but what if every person that opposes this war turns their back to our Flag. Go stand in front of the White House with your back turned, because she should oppose Bush, not America, if she feels this way.

Originally posted by JediMaster

Originally posted by Illmatic67 Hate to start a fight here Illmatic but how the hell is the Pledge of Allegiance "unconstitutional"?

I'd like to ask the same question... I read the Constitution & the Amendments quite often lately & I don't even *remember* any mention of the Pledge of Allegiance at all. However, the Consitution *does* say that any powers that are not specifically described as being under control of the Federal Government is left to the States to decide.

Originally posted by ProudAmerican
I agree with you nyeff, that she is a nobody trying to get attention.

I guess she appreciates your post then!

something Icke mentioned, the cattle is their 'court'


It just really ticked me off that somebody would do this.

Oh my god, is it really such a big deal?
She's not waving the Iraqi flag isn't she?

What do you do when you don't like something???


I was surprised to see on this post so many people supporting what she did.

You support war?

I know she has the right, but what if every person that opposes this war turns their back to our Flag. Go stand in front of the White House with your back turned, because she should oppose Bush, not America, if she feels this way.

Stand in front of the army that will attack!!
Bush says yes and they follow.

and America isn't your country, thieves.

[Edited on 4-3-2003 by alienaddicted]

I would like to ask a question of the participants of this topic:


Would you rather this person be forced to face and respect the flag?

It is her way of saying she does not support what the flag is doing, presently.

The flag is suppose to represent the ideas and values we americans are suppose to hold close and dear. But under this administraition, this isnt the case.

If you were in the military you should know what a upside down flag represents. Our base camp has been over run by the enemy! We are in distress!!!!!!!!