Sorry Little Girl, But Your Parents Are Gay, So No School!

Crowd outside Boulder church protests barring of child from Catholic school

Last week, a standing policy of the Archdiocese of Denver denied a child from enrolling in the Sacred Heart of Jesus Catholic School for kindergarten next year because the student's parents are lesbians.

"If a child of gay parents comes to our school, and we teach that gay marriage is against the will of God, then the child will think that we are saying their parents are bad," Breslin said on his blog. "We don't want to put any child in that tough position."

DeMelo said the schools do not ask questions about sexual orientation during enrollment, but once they found out, they had to address it according to their policy.

Denver Post

OK, so as a Christian I have to ask this..

Is this Christian Behavior?

How is it the little girls fault what the sexual orientation is of her parents? How can they, with good conscious, punish this little girl for actions beyond her control?

Yes, Yes, I know she can always go to another school, but in all reality this is not so much about the little girl as it is about this particular school and the basic foundation of Christian Principles.

Semper

Most Christians don't understand that God views all sins equal. Having gay parents (if that is a sin) should not be any worse than if a child had woken up, spilled hot chocolate all over themselves, and yelled, "God D#!" Would you deny the child entry for cursing because of spilling hot chocolate on them self? Hopefully not.



By the way, I wish I could have gotten away with telling the administrators at my school that my parents were gay and I needed to stay home. The "I'm sick" excuse got a little old after a while. Only kidding, calm down.

poor kid, she is way too young to be confonted with this kind of narrow mindedness.
I must admit, if I were one of the parents, I would even WANT my child to be on a school like that.
But why are you calling this un christian behaviour?

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It is a well known fact that Jesus Christ hated little girls.

I think this is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario's though. They openly state that if they admit the child that they will teach her that her parents are an abomination, so rather than put her through that, they simply choose not to admit her. Under that circumstance, I think it is best for the child not to attend.

Although, I think the parents shouldn't be pushing to send their child to a Catholic school in the first place. There are other schools to choose from, so why send your kid somewhere that will teach them something that you disagree with? There are plenty of kindergartens out there that don't indoctrinate your kids with religion. Choose one of those. I don't want my child's kindergarten teacher teaching my child about religion.

I think the protesters have already sent that message to the child....


However I DO find this a bit rich coming from a church that has more gay scandals and gay people as priests as the population of San Francisco..


However the school has the right to have whatever pupils it see's fit... There ARE other schools after all that the lesbian couple could have sent the child too... Sometime these women do things like that to make a point and cause trouble.... And they presumably know the Catholic churches views on homosexuality so maybe they was trying to make a point using this child to do that who knows... But either way I think that the church is the pot that is calling the kettle black...

Originally posted by semperfortis

"If a child of gay parents comes to our school, and we teach that gay marriage is against the will of God, then the child will think that we are saying their parents are bad," Breslin said on his blog. "We don't want to put any child in that tough position."

Isn't that just an oxymoron?

They don't want to tell the kid their parent is bad, so they tell them they can't go to school and infer its because their parent is bad....

To answer the question - no. Its not christian behaviour. Its petty small minded bigotry.

The teachings of Christ were ones of acceptance and fair treatment, not ones of isloation and condemnation.

Those teachings have been hijacked for peoples personal agendas - again, something that is against the teachings of the bible.

Its exactly those kinds of double standards that drove me from having anything to do with mainstream religions.

Well to be fair we don't know that these parents were just trying to make a point. Perhaps the girl wants to remain Catholic? Maybe part of this was her decision?

I dunno...

gay priests molesting boys - ok
little girl wants to go to Catholic school with lesbian parents - not ok

-shrugs-

It's a tough call

-Kyo

I guess I just see this as punishing the little girl for something that is not her fault and completely out of her control.

Also in answer as to why I see it as "Unchristian Behavior"; is because of the little girl.

As stated above, is it Christian to punish an innocent for the actions of others?

Semper

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You guys are goofy, this is a Private Catholic School. They have the right to send your kid home for anything like this. It’s not the only school out there, Why would Gay Parents want to send their kids to a catholic school anyway? Knowing how they are? I think they are trying to get a payday...


This is no different than your employer searching face book and seeing you acting a fool on pictures... Nothing here to see move along.

It does seem to be un-Christian like behavior on behalf of this Catholic School. Jesus and the teachings of the church have always been taught to me that we are all sinners in the eyes of God but because God loves sinners he embraces us.

The Catholic church has a long history of accepting priest that have committed crimes not just sinners and crimes against children as well as adults alike but to keep a child out of school because of this narrow minded view because of the sin someone else (if homosexuality is a sin) is guility of is the upmost in double-standard no-no's. It screams of shunning which is the exact opposite of Jesus and his teachings. They should be atoning for thier own sins and not passing judgement on others.

Of course as a private school they have the right to exclude anyone they deem unfit...but is this the what the Catholic church wants to become a part of? Deciding what sin is acceptable? I am not Catholic but according to what I know of the Church if you murder someone and go confess to your priest they will absolve you of that sin...what is it about homosexuality that one cannot confess and be forgiven?

Again we all are sinners and commit sins everyday whether in thought or action but in the end we are forgiven as long as forgiveness is asked for. This little girl is too young to make decisions on her own where she wants to go to school. Her parents apparently wish her to have a decent education...public schools today are not always the best place to recieve that education sadly enough so they make a decision to send her to a good school.

There is no way for them to make money ("paycheck") as no court would rule against the school since they are private and can make decisions as to who is allowed to attend or not. Not every Gay couple is in activist mode many are just living normal lives together in loving relationships and raising children according to the way they want too not the way the church dictates.

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Can anyone stomach a bowl of irony?

Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Archdiocese of Denver Settles 18 Paedophile Cases for $5.5 Million Since 2005, the Archdiocese of Denver has settled 43 lawsuits for over $8 million dollars. Archbishop Charles Chaput hoped that the agreed settlements would allow the victims and the victims families to begin to heal. For the second time since March, Chaput publicly apologized to all the victims, saying the church was "mortified and embarrassed." He said he had apologized in person to victims who agreed to meet with him. The settlements announced Tuesday cover 16 lawsuits and two complaints made outside the court system. The allegations were made against three priests, all of whom have since died, church officials said.

Local Blog

Will Father Nicolas demand that Jesuits observe their vows of chastity, whatever their sexual preferences? Will there be consequences for those who violate those vows, or cover for those who do? Will Jesuit vocations offices and novitiates obey the 2005 Vatican instruction which states that “those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies, or support the so-called ‘gay culture’” must not be admitted to seminaries or to holy orders?

D.C. Weigel’s column is distributed by the Denver Catholic Register, the official newspaper of the Archdiocese of Denver.

Yeah...I know. I've gone and found the first tawdry tales available about the Archdiocese of Denver. It's for a reason. It's to highlight how hypocritical it is for church leaders to set moral standards they don't adhere to.

No, it's not Christian behavior, but when has organized religion ever exhibited Christ-like behavior anyway? Being gay and sending your kid to a Catholic school for an education would be like being Black and sending your kid to a KKK parade to have fun.

They need to find another school.

Everyone knows little boys are better than little girls. Ask any priest.

Why on earth would a gay couple send their child to a Catholic school, knowing the Church's moral teachings? They could have sent their child to any school they wanted. They chose Catholic.

Agent provocateur

Traditionally, an agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French for "inciting agent(s)") is a person employed by the police or other entity to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal act. More generally, the term may refer to a person or group that seeks to discredit or harm another by provoking them to commit a wrong or rash action.

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poedxsoldiervet hit the nail right on the head, they're looking for a payday and using their daughter as a PR weapon to bludgeon the Church.



Where is the outrage at the PARENTS for using their child to score political points against the Church?
A child should not be used as a weapon by those with an ax to grind against the Church. A child should not be used as a cash cow to instigate a lawsuit.

The Church even said the child would be allowed to finish the school year. they are not kicking her out!

I believe the Church is truly acting out of charity in the interests of the child in this matter. They don't want to create friction between her and her parents and feel it is best for her not to continue her education in a school whose moral teachings conflict with her parents lifestyle.






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Why would Gay Parents want to send their kids to a catholic school anyway? Knowing how they are? I think they are trying to get a payday...

That's what I'm thinking. Unless the parents are totally clueless and don't know the teachings of the Catholic Church on homosexuality. I guess that's possible, but highly improbable.

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Homosexuality is a much harder nut to crack. One can only hope...
A leftie.

There is no way in hell the church is going to admit that the allmighty can create "flawed beings" such as gays and lesbos, so they have to act like they are protecting the child.
(Nobody freak about the flawed thing! I have a few lesbo couples I hang with all the time)

I wanna know where they got the kid. Probably not immaculate conception. I'm pretty sure the kid knows this also (hey I had a DAD!), so the church point is moot.

No offence op, but the church is not filled with good folks.
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To answer your question...yes this is what I see as typical christian behavior. (Not to good for you... eh?)
Let me ask you this: If you know about all the evil christians do, why are you still a member?

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Originally posted by semperfortis
Crowd outside Boulder church protests barring of child from Catholic school

How is it the little girls fault what the sexual orientation is of her parents? How can they, with good conscious, punish this little girl for actions beyond her control?

Semper

Sounds to me like they are trying to spare her some punishment. After all they have a point, it's a catholic school, they also teach religion there and catholic stuff, one of which, lesbianism is an abomination and so forth. Sounds to me like these parents are either, complete morons, or out to stick it to the religion with their agenda. Has to be one or the other. Not that i care for the catholic faith, i personally don't subscribe to it. But hey, if it was a muslim school or jewish or something, it would most likely be a non-story, or at least not even get a mention on here.


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Has anyone stopped to consider that perhaps the parents were raised as Catholics and wanted to share this spiritual upbringing with their daughter? Just because the parents happen to be gay doesn't mean they lack the capacity to understand the importance of spirituality in one's life.

Although I do find it rather ironic that this particular church is willing to cherry pick what sins it deems acceptable and non-acceptable among its congregation. For example, I'm sure there are a fair number of adulterers, blasphemers and perhaps a few murderers within the membership. Are their sins considered any less irreprehensible then homosexuality?

Honestly, I would welcome a homosexual couple at my dinner table before I would welcome a known bigot.


[edit on 3/8/2010 by maria_stardust]

Originally posted by maria_stardust
Has anyone stopped to consider that perhaps the parents were raised as Catholics and wanted to share this spiritual upbringing with their daughter? Just because the parents happen to be gay doesn't mean they lack the capacity to understand the importance of spirituality in one's life.

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So wait, you're saying that the lesbian parents, being raised as catholics, which happens to teach that lesbianism is an abomination to their god, want's to send their kid somewhere where the child will most likely be taught that their parent's are pissing god off big time...... i mean... really???