Icelanders in their own words on the NO vote to banker fascism

I wonder if the investments did work out, would the people of Iceland have shared in the profit? Ofcourse not, so why do they have to pay for the bailout.

You did well people of Iceland.

The question has always been about bailing out the banks. The system was set up by the banks so they could reap the profits and pass off the losses on the taxpayers. That is why they set up the FED. By a cozy relationship with government they have legally plundered the US since 1913. The FED caused the 29 stock market crash and the depression.
They could have gotten away with it if they hadn't been quite so greedy. If they had kept the national debt at a reasonable level they could have milked us forever. But now the national debt is too high for us to pay the interest, so they want to collapse the system and convert us to a totalitarian dictatorship and lock us down. Read the Iron Mountain Report Alex Jones was right about the prison planet. It's coming if American doesn't wake up in time and call a spade a spade.
Congratulations to Iceland for taking a brave stand. America could take a stand if people would just wake up to these villains.
There is some kind of stand being planned for April 15 through 18. A strike and boycott,



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reply to post by TheCoffinman


GREAT post, thread. S&F

...I'm pretty sure I posted an article here on ATS regarding the last Icelandic election (April '09) about the women "taking control" of the country and banks.

Can't find that article - but here's a source article. Might be some meat for discussion here.

A new Iceland is being built

The Icelandic financial crisis was caused by a clique of men within politics and business who were too closely associated with each other. This is the view of many Icelanders. They want to see a fundamental change to this situation when the new Iceland is rebuilt.

There are clear signs that something is happening in Iceland. The solid stone building of the Icelandic Parliament, the Alþingi, has historically housed a considerable male dominance. In 2007, 32 per cent of women were elected to the Parliament, but this proportion increased to 43 per cent in the latest election, held on 25 April 2009.

Furthermore, Iceland now has its first ever female Prime Minister – Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir – and a government consisting of six women and six men.

...many want the new Iceland to be built on values other than those that led to the financial crisis. And the new Iceland must not be built without the participation of women. This was an important theme in the demonstrations that resulted in the resignation of the former government.

Time for women to take control
“The demonstrators said that now is the time for women to rule,” Lila Mósesdóttir reports. “Not just in politics, but also in business life. ...

...“The Icelandic banking system was male dominated,” says Katrín Jakobsdóttir. “There has been a discussion as to whether the financial crisis would have happened at all if there had been more women in the sector.”

“I think it is a question of masculinity. They took big chances, lived a glamorous life and held a masculine view. This was also true of the previous government.”

Such criticism led to the fall of the previous government and has resulted in more women entering politics, but according to Katrín Jakobsdóttir the business sector has not changed.

“The world of finance was run by masculine values before the financial crisis,” says Þóranna Jónsdóttir. “It consisted of interwoven relationships.”

“Firstly, the finance companies invested with a very narrow spread of risk. There was extremely high risk behaviour. This was far beyond what is sensible. The main focus was short term. Nobody thought about the broader context.”

“Secondly, there was a lack of transparency. There was a promise of profits, but it wasn’t easy to see the real value of the investments.”

“Thirdly, there was a narrow definition of what success is made of. Money, and money only was the issue. Of course money is important, but it is not everything.”

Why should the British and the Dutch bailout Iceland?

If Iceland borrowed on the provisio that they were to repay the money they should bloody well pay back that they owe!

"The International Monetary Fund loaned Iceland $2.1 billion in November, and said repaying the money to the British and Dutch governments was a requirement of the loan."

The British and Dutch are out of pocket because of the Icelandic.

Don't come crying to Britain when the earthquake/tsunami hits.




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Originally posted by Stanton Dowd
Why should the British and the Dutch bailout Iceland?

..Don't come crying to Britain when the earthquake/tsunami hits.

This is NOT about nations or national power.

It's about the Corporate NWO fascists raiding all the piggy banks before the earthquake/tsunami hits - so that they're sitting pretty, in control and on top.

...They do not care what happens to anyone else and have no intention of bailing anyone out. Survivors will be peasants. If your support is noticed, you might get to hold a whip.

In the heat of this Iceland vote one might let imagination run loose for a moment...until one's imagination turns over a mossy rock and finds something all creepy crawly, and very scary. What might be scary? Why...sitting and watching with baited breath for the excuses, due to come just wait, to send soldiers into Iceland to "persuade" the people why their vote just doesn't understand how the world works. In truth, do we really expect global capitalism to take this vote peacefully in the spirit of democracy and not react? The big spin is coming for sure; and let's offer up prayers for the Iceland voters, all 95% of them who voted "no".

The deal involved interests much higher than reasonable
and would have caused the debt to fall on to descendants
for generations and enslaved the whole nation.

People leaving the country would have had the guilt overhead
of leaving the rest of the people with bigger debts.

Its a betrayal to sell out a nation and enslave it to other nations.

That's why I voted "No"

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The following radio link gives the best explanation I have ever heard about derivitives and the public private partnerships which have raped the third world and destroyed Iceland. They are presently attacking Greece to be followed by Spain, Portugal, Ireland and the UK then the US and the rest of the world.

Also includes a good explanation of what the banks are up to and their role in bank rupting not only individuals but governments and whole naitons.

For UK listeners a good explanation of Peter Mandlesons role as one of the King Pins in a train load of thieves.

iamthewitness.com...


Edited to add the radio broadcasters say that Iceland should not payback the money to the UK and Holland as it is playing into the hands of the banksters.

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I'm not sure how this is meant to work. Firstly, whilst I genuinely sympathise with the Icelander on the street, I doubt many of them were actually complaining when they were benefiting (either directly or indirectly) from the fact that Iceland was trying to punch above it's weight with it's banking system.

Also, it's great to show solidarity to these plucky northerners by sticking it to 'the Man'. Yet, 'the Man' won't actually feel it, it's actually the bloke on the street in Britain and the Netherlands that gets shafted. So the average Icelander want to benefit from the good times, but when it comes to the bad times, they have no qualms watching the average bloke in other countries get shafted? Erm, and I'm supposed to be in favour of this, why? Because it's somehow going to change the banking and finance system? Whilst I'm against banks profiteering and fat cat cream-licking as much as anyone, does anyone really think this will change anything? Even if it represents a token of change, a mere nod towards a financial and corporate revolution, why should the people of Britain and the Netherlands carry the can over this?

To put this into perspective for some on here. Much of what has gone on here is contractual and is based on agreements of varying kinds. How would many American posters feel if the people of a country whose government owed them $billions suddenly turned around said "America, you can go floodle yourself (or whatever it is they say in their hypothetical country)". What if the American guy on the street had to carry the can in this way. This board would be in uproar. There would be threads about turning that country to glass. There'd be threads about "who do they think they are? We're American and they owe us!

Hey, ho. Just another regular day on ATS, I suppose.

reply to post by Merriman Weir


We are on ATS and yet I'm reading post after post from uninformed regular people ready to stab each other in the back for the Banksters.

Regular people here in Iceland had nothing to do with these bankers and took no profits , man - if you had any idea what is going down in this country .....

Do you realise that the referendum was about terms and conditions ?
NOT about NOT paying at all ?

NOBODY has said that we shouldn´t pay at all , even though that´s my opinion.

Do you realise that this was private bank that I and everyone I know had NEVER heard of ?

Do you realise that ALL the perpetrators/banksters live in LONDON !?

Do you realise that the UK used Terrorist laws against my country.We are proud and we will never - ever forget that.

Do you realise that all around me people are loosing their jobs , homes, savings ...all services are being cut down. Due to greedy Banksters.

And what happens ? Regular people turn against each other when this is the time for all of us to stand together against this EVIL we call the banking/government system.

Don't worry mate , Icelanders will not stand for this , we are taking this thing down.

Originally posted by Compulsionist
reply to post by Merriman Weir

 

We are on ATS and yet I'm reading post after post from uninformed regular people ready to stab each other in the back for the Banksters.

Regular people here in Iceland had nothing to do with these bankers and took no profits , man - if you had any idea what is going down in this country .....

Do you realise that the referendum was about terms and conditions ?
NOT about NOT paying at all ?

NOBODY has said that we shouldn´t pay at all , even though that´s my opinion.

Do you realise that this was private bank that I and everyone I know had NEVER heard of ?

Do you realise that ALL the perpetrators/banksters live in LONDON !?

Do you realise that the UK used Terrorist laws against my country.We are proud and we will never - ever forget that.

Do you realise that all around me people are loosing their jobs , homes, savings ...all services are being cut down. Due to greedy Banksters.

And what happens ? Regular people turn against each other when this is the time for all of us to stand together against this EVIL we call the banking/government system.

Don't worry mate , Icelanders will not stand for this , we are taking this thing down.

When it comes to Icelanders benefiting, you might not have noticed that but I actually, and specifically, stated that this was directly and indirectly? Are you telling me no 'average' Icelanders were employed by these banks, that none of the money filtered into the Icelandic economy, that no (non-financial) Icelandic business weren't created off the back of all this? Honestly?

No, the average Icelander wouldn't have had much of a say in the creation of large national banks and no say in the government's negotiations with other countries. But the obverse is true also: the average Briton or Netherlander had no say in their local governments' involvements in Icelandic banks and so on. It's not all private savers greedily taking advantage of any enticements on offer with these banks.

Again, I really sympathise. We've been having to bail out banks in this country before America and Iceland and it's not the guy in the streets' fault. Who on here gave a monkey's on here in early 2008 when Northern Rock had to be nationalised? Or the semi-nationalisation of the Royal Bank of Scotland? Why should the average guy in the street in Britain have to carry the can for Icelandic banks too?

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
Wake up Europe !

Star and flagged !

Europe has FREE HEALTHCARE.

Does America have free healthcare?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Greeks plan 4 days of Defiance starting today...

Originally posted by SuperSlovak

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
Wake up Europe !

Star and flagged !

Europe has FREE HEALTHCARE.

Does America have free healthcare?

Why did you assume he was American?
Stereotype much?

And i don't know wich Europe you are talking about, but i have to pay a pretty bundle for my healthcare.

Nice derailing though



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www.reuters.com...

Debt row, Greece feed anti-EU fire in Iceland

People are growing suspicious of the EU," said Gudbjorg Andrea Jonsdottir, director at pollster Capacent. "They see the way Greece is being treated and realize that the type of security they hoped to gain as an EU member may not be there for the taking."

In a referendum on debts Saturday, Icelanders soundly rejected the last "Icesave" accord, venting anger at local bankers and politicians blamed for the collapse, as well as the "unfair" repayment terms offered by Britain and the Netherlands.

Though not part of the negotiations, the EU was also blamed.

"The Icelandic public at large felt the EU was taking sides with the British and the Dutch," Foreign Minister Ossur Skarphedinsson said. "It was felt that the EU was supporting the British and the Dutch in abusing the IMF to hand-collect debts."

I wish America had politicians with substance
RIP UNITED STATES, USA is making a comeback.

Good to see I hope they stick to their guns! I hope they don't get an untimely earthquake either.

Anyone been to Iceland? I am curious how it might be to live there if they continue to give the finger to the NWO Global banking cartels trying to get them to pay the phoney debt

Originally posted by SuperSlovak

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
Wake up Europe !

Star and flagged !

Europe has FREE HEALTHCARE.

Does America have free healthcare?

Nope. But Europe (the UK specifically) has 22 year olds dying of dehydration while in the hospital because nurses and doctors ignore/disregard his pleas for water and the medicine that he was prescribed.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

reply to post by Merriman Weir


You really need to improve your understanding.

This was not an accident - this is simply the plan they intend to use everywhere - bankrupt the nation, and then its peons are debt slaves of the banks.

As if they should pay back the pretend phony money they were 'lent'.

Nothing of real value was ever offered - so why should they return something of real value for nothing?