A Timeline: Israel connection to 9/11

One of my favorites is Philip Zelikow a dual citizen. Zelikow decided what information was to investigated by the 911 Commission.

911commission.gov

Philip D. Zelikow
Executive Director

Philip Zelikow is the executive director of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, better known as the "9/11 Commission." He is also the director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs and White Burkett Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia. After serving in government with the Navy, the State Department, and the National Security Council, he taught at Harvard before assuming his present post in Virginia to direct the nation's largest research center on the American presidency. He was a member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and served as executive director of the National Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former Presidents Carter and Ford, as well as the executive director of the Markle Foundation Task Force on National Security in the Information Age. Zelikow's books include The Kennedy Tapes (with Ernest May), Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (with Condoleezza Rice), and the rewritten Essence of Decision (with Graham Allison). Zelikow has also been the director of the Aspen Strategy Group, a policy program of the Aspen Institute.

The Timeline presented was taken directly from the History Commons website without attribution or acknowledgement.

www.historycommons.org.../11=israel

The page used has 61 items on Israel. There are about 1000 other items on the 9/11 timeline detailing al Qaida and other terrorist organization involvement including operations and planning.

Originally posted by December_Rain
I can understand your lack of knowledge about how to properly format and present threads,

Cute and comedically ironic at the same time.

The point made in my initial response being quite simple.

Copy/Paste 95+% of the opening posts from a single external source, format it a manner Not conducive to this site's Terms & Conditions regarding such AND in a manner which obviously has fellow members seeing/believing/thinking it to be Your material or exhaustively-researched efforts, ADD to that those segments which are clearly from the same source/article but Appear to the reader as your own works/words (i.e. sans quotations) and you get what we have here... A clear Copy-O-Pastian "effort" with but a mere blurb at the onset and "5 possible scenarios" as a follow up. All carefully crafted to appear as if it were the result of lengthy and extensive "research" on the behalf of the thread author.

Again.

...not that I am very good at it but I can help you start. You should try to make one, don't be afraid, if you need any help let me know

If this "thread" is an example of the "help" being offered.
Thanks but No Thanks. I have a parrot who is fluent in Google, too.

Original PNAC signers...

From Sourcewatch

Original 25 signatories were:

Source

* Elliott Abrams, a former Reagan-era Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs. During the Iran/Contra scandal, Abrams pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of lying to Congress but was later pardoned by the first Bush administration. He subsequently became president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He is currently a member of Bush's National Security Council.
* Gary Bauer, a Republican presidential candidate in 2000, who currently is president of an organization named American Values.
* William J. Bennett, who served during the Reagan and first Bush administrations as U.S. Secretary of Education and Drug Czar. Upon leaving government office, Bennett became a "distinguished fellow" at the conservative Heritage Foundation, co-founded Empower America, and established himself as a self-proclaimed expert on morality with his authorship of The Book of Virtues.
* Jeb Bush, the son of former President George Herbert Walker Bush and brother of current President George W. Bush. At the time of PNAC's founding, Jeb Bush was a candidate for the Florida governor's seat, a position which he currently holds.
* Dick Cheney, the former White House Chief of Staff to Gerald R. Ford, six-term Congressman, and Secretary of Defense to the first President Bush, was serving as president of the oil-services giant Halliburton Company at the time of PNAC's founding. He subsequently became U.S. vice president under George W. Bush.
* Eliot A. Cohen, a professor of strategic studies at John Hopkins University
* Paula Dobriansky, vice president and director of the Washington office of the Council on Foreign Relations. Currently Dobriansky serves in the Bush administration as Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs.
* Steve Forbes, publisher, billionaire, and Republican presidential candidate in 1996 and 2000. Forbes has also campaigned actively on behalf of the "flat tax," which would reduce the federal tax burden for wealthy individuals like himself.
* Aaron Friedberg, professor of politics and international affairs; Director, Center of International Studies; Director, Research Program in International Security, Woodrow Wilson School, Princeton University.
* Francis Fukuyama, author of The End of History and the Last Man; Dean of the Faculty and Bernard L. Schwartz Professor of International Political Economy at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at Johns Hopkins University. Appointed to the President's Council on Bioethics by George W. Bush, January 2002.
* Frank Gaffney - conservative columnist; founder and president of the Center for Security Policy in Washington, D.C. Web-site: www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org...
* Fred C. Ikle, "distinguished scholar" at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
* Donald Kagan, professor of history and classics at Yale University and the author of books including While America Sleeps: Self-Delusion, Military Weakness, and the Threat to Peace Today; A Twilight Struggle: American Power and Nicaragua, 1977-1990; and The Origins of War and the Preservation of Peace. Kagan is also a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a contributing editor at the Weekly Standard and a Washington Post columnist, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Alexander Hamilton fellow in American diplomatic history at American University. Past experience includes: Deputy for Policy in the State Department's Bureau of Inter-American Affairs (1985-1988); State Department's Policy Planning Staff member (1984-1985); speechwriter to Secretary of State George P. Shultz (1984-1985); foreign policy advisor to Congressman Jack Kemp (1983); Special Assistant to the Deputy Director of the United States Information Agency (1983); Assistant Editor at the Public Interest (1981).
* Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-American who was the only Muslim among the group's original signatories and the only signatory who was not a native-born U.S. citizen. Khalilzad has became the Bush administration's special envoy to Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban as well as is special envoy to the Iraqi opposition to Saddam Hussein. Khalilzad has written about information warfare, and in 1996 (in pre-Taliban days), he served as a consultant to the oil company Unocal Corporation (UNOCAL) regarding a "risk analysis" for its proposed pipeline project through Afghanistan and Pakistan.
* William Kristol, PNAC's chairman, is also editor of the Weekly Standard, a Washington-based political magazine. His past involvements have included: lead of the Project for the Republican Future, chief of staff to Vice President J. Danforth Quayle, chief of staff to Secretary of Education William J. Bennett under the Reagan administration, taught politics at the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.
* I. Lewis Scooter Libby, who later became chief of staff for Vice President Dick Cheney.
* Norman Podhoretz, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and author of works such as Patriotism and its Enemies.
* J. Danforth Quayle, former vice president under President George Herbert Walker Bush and a presidential candidate himself in 1996.
* Peter W. Rodman, who served in the State Department and the National Security Council under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush, became the current Bush administration's Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security affairs in 2001.
* Stephen P. Rosen, Beton Michael Kaneb Professor of National Security and Military Affairs at Harvard University.
* Henry S. Rowen was president of the RAND Corporation from 1967-1972. He served under former presidents Reagan and Bush as chairman of the National Intelligence Council (1981-83) and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs (1989-91). He currently holds the title of "senior fellow" at the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace
* Donald H. Rumsfeld served former President Gerald R. Ford as chief of transition after Richard M. Nixon's resignation, later becoming Ford's chief of staff and secretary of defense from 1974-75. He subsequently served from 1990-93 as CEO of General Instrument Corporation and later as Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, a pharmaceutical company. In 1998 he served as chairman of the bi-partisan US Ballistic Missile Threat Commission. Under President George W. Bush, he once again assumed the post of Secretary of Defense.
* Vin Weber, a former Republican congressman from Minnesota, is now a well-connected lobbyist who has represented such firms as AT&T, Lockheed Martin and Microsoft. Weber is also vice chairman of Empower America and a former fellow of the Progress and Freedom Foundation.
* George Weigel, a Roman Catholic religious and political commentator, is a "senior fellow" at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
* Paul Dundes Wolfowitz, formerly Dean and Professor of International Relations at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University, became Undersecretary of Defense for President George W. Bush in 2001.

reply to post by Leo Strauss


I noted a curious think on Dev Zakheim's wikipedia page

First if you see the history of article I found this

He himself removing all the content of 9/11 angle from his profile and
co-incidentally even some links and comments have been erased from the "Talk" page of the article on which few editors have commented. Usually in such cases there is always history, but in this case there is no history and everything has been wiped out.


I also found the original transcript from DOD website where Rumsfield talks about the 2.5 trillion missing account. * . It's important because during his (Dov's) term as Comptroller, he was tasked to help track down the Pentagon's 2.6 trillion dollars worth of unaccounted transactions. (*)

Another thing which has just come across is Dov Zakheim is also co-author of the famous or shall I say infamous report titled : "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century" published by The American Enterprise's "Project for a New American Century". Dov Zakheim, called for "Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor." perhaps being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to support a war in the Middle East that would politically and culturally reshape the region.

nvm edited.. not going to be derailed.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by December_Rain]

Annie..

For someone hellbent on criticizing the errors made in the OP, I believe the least you could do would be to make sure your punctuation is correct...which it is not!!

Nothing worse than someone correcting another when they themselves are wrong...!!

Speak to your parrot about this...maybe he could google you some help.


Jewish perhaps??

Not that I disagree. I am pretty anti-zionist-policies. But I wholeheartedly agree with Annie Mossity. Copy-paste job of someone elses hard work and trying to make it look like your own. You linked a single 'S' to the source hoping most people would not bother with it and the few who did would be happy that you actually linked to it.

On the other hand Im glad because I have not seen this before. And appreciate you inding alternative sources. But I think you should be ashamed trying to pass it off as to look like its all your work.

I've said it a dozen times on here, Israel was meant to be the sacrificial lamb from the beginning, Mossad did 9-11 and the shotty cover-up was meant to be shotty: they always planned to 'reveal' the truth to start the real world war III.

Read the Bible, Zechariah, protocols of the elders of zion, Albert Pikes letters on the 3 world wars...

Only a fool would say they are fake, after seeing what they say come true. The plan for the futures laid out in them. Dont think the Jews are behind it. They're going to be wiped out too, once they're implicated in 9-11. The whole point is to wipe out all 3 abrahamic religions, and then atheism. People telling you these groups (Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists) are the cause, are just trying to divide you. They dont call it scripture for nothing. Its part of the script.

Originally posted by Ridhya
I've said it a dozen times on here, Israel was meant to be the sacrificial lamb from the beginning, Mossad did 9-11 and the shotty cover-up was meant to be shotty: they always planned to 'reveal' the truth to start the real world war III.
Read the Bible, Zechariah, protocols of the elders of zion, Albert Pikes letters on the 3 world wars...Only a fool would say they are fake, after seeing what they say come true. The plan for the futures laid out in them. Dont think the Jews are behind it. They're going to be wiped out too, once they're implicated in 9-11. The whole point is to wipe out all 3 abrahamic religions, and then atheism. People telling you these groups (Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists) are the cause, are just trying to divide you. They dont call it scripture for nothing. Its part of the script.

Well do you have any sources or links to back up your bible theory? I mean official or non-official 9/11 related sources which says Israel will play as sacrificial lamb? Any sources saying God put some influence on Dov Zekheim so he prepared the New American Report and was CEO of company which ran remote controlled test ill 2000? Any links where it's mentioned the 5 people send were god's chosen? Or anything linked to 9/11 with God?

edited..

[edit on 7-3-2010 by December_Rain]

reply to post by December_Rain


The problem with this topic, they are all full of Claims and Denials,
Couner Claims and Counter Denials.

It's almost Impossible to determine who's pants are actually on Fire.

reply to post by December_Rain


Who said it has anything to do with God? God didnt write the bible, albert pikes letters or the protocols. He could have influenced the people who wrote them but have no proof of that.

Are you an atheist? I noticed a lot of atheists have a ridiculous time believing the events of the bible could come true. You dont have to be a believer to believe they're coming true, you just have to watch the events. I am an agnostic. I do not know if god exist or not. Him existing and the bible coming true are mutually exclusive.

Have you read these texts I mentioned? Read all three together and they seem like a 3 piece puzzle. Zechariah specifically for biblical text. It sounds like the entire world is angry at Israel (I wonder why, 9-11? Could anything else even achieve half that effect..?) and gather to destroy it together. Then their faces melt. Nuclear weapons maybe? Vanunu thinks so.

Originally posted by Ridhya
reply to post by December_Rain

 

Who said it has anything to do with God?

Well you implied Bible which are said to be God's words, in your previous post, the reason I brought up the God.

Read the Bible, Zechariah, protocols of the elders of zion, Albert Pikes letters on the 3 world wars...Only a fool would say they are fake, after seeing what they say come true. The plan for the futures laid out in them.
God didnt write the bible, albert pikes letters or the protocols. He could have influenced the people who wrote them but have no proof of that.

I thought maybe I am missing something here, some links or sources which connects 9/11 to Israel in Bible?

Are you an atheist? I noticed a lot of atheists have a ridiculous time believing the events of the bible could come true. You dont have to be a believer to believe they're coming true, you just have to watch the events. I am an agnostic. I do not know if god exist or not. Him existing and the bible coming true are mutually exclusive.

Well I am not sure what my belief has to do with evidence but my answer is yes and no. I do not know if God exist or not but I respect all forms of religion and Gods. I have even visited and prayed at Church, Temple, Synagogue, Buddhist Shrine & Mosque and celebrated all of the festivals like Christmas, Eid, Diwali, Poornim, Budh Jayanti but I don't believe in God and don't read scriptures.

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Here is another dual citizen Michael Chertoff.

Former Homeland Secretary Michael Chertoff founded the Chertoff Group, a security consulting agency. The Chertoff Group's client list is unknown—Chertoff refused to talk about it in an interview—but he admits that some of his clients manufacture full-body scanners.

Link

The Underpants Bomber alerted the world to the possibility of terrorists putting bombs in their underpants. So now everyone is debating whether we should deploy scanners which can see through clothes and show bombs nestled close to terrorists' nekkid bodies. Michael Chertoff, who was Bush's homeland security secretary from 2005-2009, is a huge fan! Yesterday he told NPR:

A couple of years ago we began the process of testing them to see, first of all, if they worked and second, if they could be deployed without unduly restricting the flow of traffic. And the good news is that we were able to demonstrate that they were successful. We could use them without slowing up traffic and we could also protect privacy.

But when Chertoff launched into his pitch for full-body scanners on Campbell Brown tonight, we learned that he is paid by the very companies who make the penetrating devices:

Underwear bomber allowed to board plane!

As both the Los Angeles Times and CongressDaily reported, Customs and Border Protection agents obtained the suspect's name from the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment or TIDE database, maintained by the NCTC and planned to question Abdulmutallab when Flight 253 landed in Detroit on arrival from Amsterdam.

However, as CongressDaily subsequently revealed, CBP agents "had information about alleged terrorist Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab three days before his departure" and not during the flight as the Los Angeles Times report initially suggested.

As we now know, information fed to NCTC's database contained specific warnings from the State Department--as did the CIA's "Hercules" system as Newsweek reported, and "that White House officials believe could have led U.S. authorities to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab before last December 25," according to the newsmagazine's anonymous sources.

Why did the State Department fail to revoke the accused terrorist's visa?

When questioned by Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS), Kennedy told the panel, "We will revoke the visa of any individual who is a threat to the United States, but we do take one preliminary step."

Kennedy explained, "We ask our law enforcement and intelligence community partners, 'Do you have eyes on this person and do you want us to let this person proceed under your surveillance so that you may potentially break a larger plot?'"

The Undersecretary added: "And one of the members [of the intelligence community]--and we'd be glad to give you that [information] ... in private [closed session]--said, 'Please, do not revoke this visa. We have eyes on this person. We are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying to roll up an entire network, not just stop one person.'"

[edit on 7-3-2010 by Leo Strauss]

So with all the evidence that Israeli and u.s agencies played a part in planning and executing the 911 attacks, why the heck did they send troops to Afghanistan and then Iraq?

Why are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Why are Palestinians and Lebanese getting killed by Israel?

Why are Iraqi and Afghani children being blown to bits in front of their parents?

There is no evidence that Israel pulled a false flag on 9/11.

The only thing that suggests that Israel might have had a part is these supposed Israeli spies celebrating the attack on the towers.

If these were Israeli Mossad agent then they must be the dumbest agents in all of Mossad. Celebrating as the film the WTC attack in public, on top of a van with the name of a Jewish company on the side. That is more than sloppy, it would be plain stupid. Why would Israel send their dumbest agents on such an important mission?

Not only that, but celebrating an event that kills thousands of people of a nation which is your closest ally in a city with a large Jewish population would be extremely cold hearted. Why would they celebrate this?

How hard would it be to get a van, paint the name of a Jewish company on the side, change the license plate numbers, and then celebrate in public to throw the suspicion on someone else.

Mossad was not the only organization who warned the U.S., both Britain and France warned the GW admin, as well as our own FBI.

Anyone monitoring the Air Traffic communications could easily have known a half hour before the actual event that something was going down, because the planes had been identified as being hijacked a half hour before the first one hit.

Most of the evidence points to Al Queda committing the act, and the GW admin letting it happen, and most likely aiding the whole event.

Sounds like Israel was simply monitoring the situation, and maybe trying to stop it from happening.

Hi Poet 1b --

It could well be that the Five Dancing and High-Five'ing Yisraeli's were some of the Detonation Squad Members which brought down the towers (t according to this theory these Israeli's, dressed as Palestinian Arabs, were celebrating a nice neat demolition and filming their handiwork as the towers neatly fell, one by one....)

Certainly I do not believe that those two planes could possibly have brought down those two massive towers and in exactly the same way too - and so evenly.

It seems to me (and to experts who have studied the actual 'collapse' of these towers, as with W7, that very strictly timed detonation devices were used tpo bring down these buildings--and the SPECIFIC fact that the bomb sniffing dogs were taken OUT of the World Trade Center 6 days prior to 9-11 suggests that bombs had INDEED been planted by a team such as the five Dancing & High-Five'ing Israeli's who were probably just hired to do another inside job they were especially trained by the Mossad / CIA to do....and were very proud of their work (i.e. that the buildings went down as planned, and neatly and compactly, without falling over and killing a lot more New Yorkers in the area)

Still they should have not been so blatant and carried away with their joy ---detonation engineers don't make very good politicians (or poker players for that matter) apparently...

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I think the towers were demo'd, but it would have taken a large team several weeks, most likely a couple of months to set up all the explosives.'

Neil Bush was on the board of the company who was in charge of the WTC security, and they were probably who set up the whole event.

My gut feeling is that the OS isnt correct. I think Israel and the US played a part in 9/11.

However, i am having trouble trying to figure out how the actual hijackers were convinced to carry out the attack. If it was an act of jihad, then i can somewhat comprehend why the hijackers would kill themselves to carry out their mission. But if it was Israel, how were they able to convince the hijackers to commit suicide in order to accomplish their mission? I dont see how any agent would give their life to knowingly carry out a false flag attack on an innocent population.

Any theories on this?


and to the OP, thanks for your work on this thread. Very well put together.