Nasa, Esa & Jaxa: Where are the stars?

This is a continuation of my other thread which didn't go so well, so here is my attempt to build a stronger argument. Some photos look more cgi-ish than others.

Image of Earth from moon-Jaxa

Earth Blue Marble series-Nasa

Earth-Esa

Here is a photo of our 'Trashmotsphere'.

Trashmotsphere-Esa

These photos look like computer models, but is thst trash always there? Apparently it has been collecting for some time but they don't manage to show up in most photos i've seen. I am not a image analyst nor have i been to space, but i think something is ary.

Am i missing something?

Is it a lighting/focusing issue?

Or are we involved in some censorship program involving all space agencies?

Scale image of earth moon distance

I feel like there should be some stars in this picture...

I still think we are being duped, and have been since the space agencies started. I invite anyone to prove to me otherwise.

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reply to post by EarthWanderer


Have you not read the thousands of responses, already, explaining this?

Here's a suggestion: Take a class in photography. Understand what exposure levels mean, and how very bright objects, nearer the camera will dictate aperture and exposure settings so much so that very, very comparatively dim and distant light sources will not be recorded, at those settings.

Enjoy!
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Had one more idea, so simple ---- a question back at ya:

Why can't you see the stars during the day? They're still there, right? So, why can't you see them?


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Nice photos.
Interesting idea. It does seem logical to assume there would be stars. Stars do show up on night photographs.

reply to post by NotThat

Stars do show up on night photographs.

Really?

All night-time photos?

Why not try some experiments for yourself.

Make sure you set your exposure for some bright object....camera doesn't have to be pointed directly at a light source --- use a bright source and shine it on an object, a wall, whatever. Then see if the stars show up, when your object, at proper exposure settings, is photographed.

I'm not sure what your point is. are you saying that Nasa is lying about taking pictures of earth from space. Your basically saying everything we think about is false? Is Virgin also faking it''s space flights? Do you have any clue at all? This is just pointless.

Originally posted by EarthWanderer

Am i missing something?

Yes.

I'm guessing you're not a photographer?

Here's something I posted a while back:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wow,
ok weedwhacker, do you have anything to support your idea?

The point is are our images being censored or not. Can you say without a doubt that these images are not tampered with?

Post some links-
I would love to believe we arent being lied to but no one can convince me apparently

reply to post by Essan


Show me photos with the earth and stars.

I understand what your saying, i'm not an idiot....if you think so then present your argument.

So you think all the space agencies are hiding nothing huh? ok

While I totally understand and agree with the exposure explaination for why there are no stars in earth and moon photos, it is a bit uncanny how challenging it is to find any pictures from space taken by the shuttle that have stars in them. Still looking, but not an easy task.



This is all I have seen so far...

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Originally posted by EarthWanderer
Can you say without a doubt that these images are not tampered with?

How about showing a official source from where those pictures are obtained, so we can see the original photo's (official source means NASA, or ESA etc. not a fraud like Hoagland)

[edit on 4/3/10 by dereks]

Well it's supposedly normal for there to be no stars in the picture.

I suggest you watch the moon rising series on youtube though; it talks a lot about how many of the moon pictures have obviously been tampered with by Nasa.

reply to post by Monts

Well it's supposedly normal for there to be no stars in the picture.

Only when your subject is quite bright, or very close and well-lit.

Sheesh! The HST takes pictures of the stars!!! Because that's what it's designed to do!

I suggest you watch the moon rising series on youtube though;

Oh, no, not Jose' Escamilla again!

Sorry, but his stuff is rubbish.

You can read something about him, from people who don't buy into his junk "films", here.

Originally posted by EarthWanderer
These photos look like computer models, but is thst trash always there? Apparently it has been collecting for some time but they don't manage to show up in most photos i've seen. I am not a image analyst nor have i been to space, but i think something is ary.

That's probably because they are not common colour photos, they may even be colourized like old movies.

Is it a lighting/focusing issue?

It's a light issue.
I took some photos of the Moon and some photos of the stars with the same camera, but there are no stars in my Moon photos because the exposure time had to be much shorter (hundredths of seconds instead of seconds) in the Moon photos.

Scale image of earth moon distance

I feel like there should be some stars in this picture...

As far as I know that could have been done in Photoshop, if you can find an official space agency source for that photo then we could use it.

reply to post by ArMaP

As far as I know that could have been done in Photoshop...

I tend to agree. As far as I know, there have been no such actual photos taken, of that nature, by distant spacecraft ( well, none of Human design, anyway! )

I believe the point of that was to represent, for people to understand, what it might look like, should one be able to travel out there.

Since the Earth's diameter is about 8,000 miles (about 12,800 km) and the Moon is about 250,000 miles (about 400,000 km) away you can also think of the Moon being about 50 Earth diameters away.

On wiki, found this....you will see a similar image, to show how fast light travels between the two bodies, as well as an actual picture, taken from 50,000,000 km away, by the comet probe 'Deep Impact'. In that photo, the distance is foreshortened, due to the extreme magnification required to make the shot. So relative sizes are skewed, somewhat.





These are from:
en.wikipedia.org...

For additional interest, note here the relative sizes of the four innermost 'terrestrial' or rocky planets:

en.wikipedia.org...:Terrestrial_planet_size_comparisons.jpg



[edit on 4 March 2010 by weedwhacker]