Should Creationism be taught in Public School?

Originally posted by Snarf
Evolution has never, once, been proven. Which is why it is still considered a theory.

You don't understand scientific method. The theory of evolution has been verified by many scientists. What you're talking about is the hypothesis. The hypothesis is still changing, but the theory remains valid.

At all...just completely wild 'educated' guesses.

A guess is called a hypothesis. Creation is a hypothesis. The term "Theory of creation" is a misnomer.

reply to post by Geolion1


Only if churches are made to teach evolutionism.

It is not a science, teach it in religious education if you want but not science. How does one go about teaching creationism anyway? A very short course i would imagine and lacking or should i say devoid of any evidence to support it. Bible passage spamming and blind faith. How very scientific.


[edit on 10-3-2010 by Solomons]

i think there should be a creationism class and an evolution class. and that basic bioligy shouldn't cover either one

also creationism really doesn't add up i'll show you a little bit from genesis

1) The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite.

2) “And God said, Let there be light” (Genesis 1:3) and “. . .And the evening and the morning were the first day” (Genesis 1 :5), versus “And God said, ‘Let there be light in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night....’ “And God made two lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also… And the evening and morning were the fourth day” (Genesis 1 :14-19). These violates two major facts. Light cannot exist without a sun, and secondly, how can morning be distinguished from evening unless there is a sun and moon? Christians try to claim that god is the light he is referring to yet, considering the context it is quite obvious that the light god is speaking of is the light emitted by the sun. Just another feeble attempt at trying to rationalize such a MAJOR blunder.

3) God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day) working on a solid firmament (Genesis 1:6-8). This strange structure, which God calls heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters. This firmament, if it existed, would have been quite an obstacle to our space program.

4) Plants are made on the third day (Genesis 1:11) before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (Genesis 1:14-19).

5) “And God said, ‘Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind… ‘And the evening and the morning were the third day” (Genesis 1:11-13), versus “And God said, ‘Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life… And God created - great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly… And the evening and the morning were the fifth day” (Genesis 1:20-23). Genesis says that life existed first on the land as plants and later the seas teemed with living creatures. Geological science can prove that the sea teemed with animals and vegetable life long before vegetation and life appeared on land.

6) “And God said, ‘Let the water bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven” (Genesis 1:20). Birds did not emerge from water.

7) "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, the beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made…every thing that creepth upon the earth after his kind…" (Genesis 1:24-25). Science contends that reptiles were created long before mammals, not simultaneously. While reptiles existed in the Carboniferous Age, mammals did not appear until the close of the Reptilian Age.

my source is evilbible.com absurd torah science

reply to post by ashanu90


also about the evolution and creationism classes

they should be electives

on the other hand to my idea that both should be taught as electives, a disclaimer

people go to church to learn that theology but they go to school to learn science

I don’t think creationism has any educational value, so no.

No absolutely not. Creationism is a religious belief and religion should be kept out of the public school system.

reply to post by ashanu90


Surely evolution, the basis for all of biology, should not be an elective. Everyone should have a firm grasp of it, as it is elegantly simple, yet very powerful. It teaches the scientific method in a very visible way, highly accessible to students.

Creationism should, though, be in a religious studies class, which should be elective.

So what version of creation should we teach?

I realise it's a bit late to chime in with my opinion.

Anyway, in answer to the OP's question, YES it should be taught.

But the creation stories of all the major religions should be explained, as should evolution, with each given equal attention in the curriculum.

Then we can let the youth of today make up its own mind!

All the best, kiwi

reply to post by kiwifoot


That's ridiculous. And chance the kids getting some crazed belief instead of a science education?? Surely that'd fail a child, as they'll not be able to go to university.

Science class should stick with science. That means evolution, and evolution only. No creationism, from any religion.

Absolutly NOT one two three NO! Leave that in Sunday school or your local church.

Originally posted by Geolion1
Question 1:
Do you know what creationism is? (Answer truthfully)

Question 2:
Should creationism be taught in public schools?

Answer 1: Yes.

Answer 2: I have no problem with that as long as it's taught in religion-class.

[EDIT]
I'm also for implementing mandatory religion-classes for any & all denominations.
(including but not limited to Pastafarianism)
With their own versions of creation being taught. Would only be fair.
[/EDIT]



[edit on 2010.3.12 by Carlthulhu]

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by ashanu90

 

Surely evolution, the basis for all of biology, should not be an elective. Everyone should have a firm grasp of it, as it is elegantly simple, yet very powerful. It teaches the scientific method in a very visible way, highly accessible to students.

Creationism should, though, be in a religious studies class, which should be elective.

i agree with you it's just that you will never get the fundies to agree so you got to comprimise or theres drama

1) Yes.

2) Only if they teach it in religion class. If they wanna teach it in any science class, I demand they also mention the spaghetti monster theory and my theory that the world was created when a rainbow colored turtle farted.

reply to post by ashanu90


I think the education of the children is a bit more important than stopping fundies from having a tantrum.

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by ashanu90

 

I think the education of the children is a bit more important than stopping fundies from having a tantrum.

very true but what about radical christians? they throw a tantrum also.......with bombs!!!

reply to post by ashanu90


So what? It's been demonstrated that they are acting irrationally, and so why on earth should society bend to their whim and start a new dark age simply to not offend them?

Screw them.

i may be a little late to the discussion.

but No it shouldn't. religion is a choice, and it's not something that should be forced upon kids/people


and anyway you want to look at it Creationism is a religious thing


and i feel that way besides the point i don't believe in any of that religious bollocks.