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posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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I believe, there is something very odd to human society and i believe there must be a reason to why there's so many devilish people around in our world.

I do not wish to cause a stair with fellow parents here at ATS. However, I would like to ask some interesting questions. There is a lot of unanswered and unsual phenomenon's that happen in our world, one in particular to having a child.

Regardless of the age of the child, why do some parents come across angry, stressed, arrogant and egoistic towards others?

Why is there some good honest people who do are unable to have children?

Are the majority of parents who have had a children, have they got pregnant from been a regular at night clubs with regular sexual short term relationships?

Why is it easy for some fathers who are drunks, druggies to have children and not a sensible man?

Why are a lot of parents immature? why do a lot of parents not like to have responsibility?.

Yes there is a decent size number of good parents around who have been fortunate to have children, however, I do not believe this to be the majority. I want to know why that is. It seems, its an ever on going problem were the most irresponsible are having children were there is a hugde amount of abuse and killings of their own children.

Is it a sin to have child? why is the child going to some sinful parents? i do not understand the physiology behind that, if god was wanting to change this world, then why is he giving children to terrible, evil, irresponsible parents? and why is there only a small minoirty of good loving parents?

WHY?



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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Most of your questions are probably without answers while some questions may find an answer in : Life is unfair

The dramatic decrease of the intelligence coefficient of the population may be the answer of "Why are a lot of parents immature?" .
They are basically children with children . Most of them don't know the values of family and they can't respect something they don't know
That's also a cause of many broken families

More and more teenagers that are unable to have a clear judgement are becoming parents and when this happens they find themselves overwhelmed by the situation and aren't able of providing a proper education

This number increases as day goes by and with a children not receiving the basic education from home it will happen again when the child will grow to be 15 or 18

Everything links , financial situation in the given country , the health system , the educational system . When one country decreases from those points of views the number of new born children in educated ( meaning not only school education , but knowledge on life in general) families will reduce while people that are under a certain limit of income or education won't be affected

Of course that only answers why are some irresponsible parents ,because they don't know how to act better in these situations , they are overwhelmed and their intelligence doesn't help them much.

For the other questions , they may be good meditation material...



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 06:01 AM
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Yeah, I've got to say that most of the answers to your questions are pretty self explanatory.

Why are some people born with limbs missing?

Why are some people, who are born with every physical advantage over others, complete idiots and jokers of people?

Why do you have people in the world who are blind but are the happiest type of person you will ever meet?

It's called life, simple.

With regards to having children, well unfortunately its pretty easy physically to have a child, the druggies/alcoholics and thugs are the way they are in the majority because of a lack of intelligence.

That lack of intelligence is the same problem that cause them to neglect contraception.

On a nastier note some of the above types mentioned enter relationships unemployed and have children as a method to claim money and benefit financially from the government.

[edit on 1/3/10 by Death_Kron]



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 06:07 AM
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I've never understood why so many people feel the need to have kids and start their own families when they grow up. There is nothing wrong with it and I am sure those with little-to-no family of their own want to create a base of support and love. Understandable. I'm sure there are many selfless, caring and supportive couples that have the desire and means to raise children in a happy family environment. Unfortunately, there are many that don't.

I just don't understand the innate desire for many people to have kids and start their own families. Having children might be one of the "greatest joys in the world" but it can be an enormous burden too. Having a child basically means sacrificing a lot in your own life to bring new life into this world. You stop being yourself and start to shape your lifestyle around what is best for your kids and not yourself/your partner. Not only are you responsible for feeding and clothing yourself, you will also be responsible for doing the same for another being that is completely dependent on you.

I believe a lot of what you describe (parents being angry, stressed and arrogant) comes down suppressing the fact they pledged their life for something that seemed great at the time, but now they want out. Of course they would never admit it, but deep down I think this could be the case for those parents that behave and act like you have described. (Of course, a lot of people have really bad childhoods and don't know any better, but unless they change their ways, will the cycle ever break?)

[edit on 1/3/2010 by Dark Ghost]



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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People feel the need to create and start families because they love their partner and want to create new life with them while at the same time continuing their bloodline.



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by anonymousproxy

Are the majority of parents who have had a children, have they got pregnant from been a regular at night clubs with regular sexual short term relationships?




Of course not. Where do you get this idea from?




Yes there is a decent size number of good parents around who have been fortunate to have children, however, I do not believe this to be the majority. I want to know why that is. It seems, its an ever on going problem were the most irresponsible are having children were there is a hugde amount of abuse and killings of their own children.



Are you serious about this? Really? If you are then fair enough for asking the question but boy are you are way off the mark. You are suggesting that the majority of parents are not decent or good.

The you go on to suggest that the majority of parents are irresponsible. Are you really believing this?

And can you give me the figures for this huge amount of abuse and killing of children from this majority of parents who you deem to be bad and irresponsible please.


You do know you are suggesting that more than 50% of parents are irresponsible and a huge number of them are involved in abuse and murder of children don't you?



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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My God, what is it with ATS today!

I have just come away from a grodon brown threads which i wont go into and that was bad enough.

This is a similar line of thought who think that parents of down syndrome children have done something wrong in a previous life, which is again disgusting.

If it was the opposite way and the government chose who had childrem then I expect you would be one of the first people up here shouting how unfair and totalitarian that is.

Yes some people dont deserve to have children for one reason or another, but its definately not God's choice, and this is where people get the god thing all wrong too.

Its as though God has got a huge filing cabinet in that cloud and every time a couple thinks about children, God then checks his files to see if they deserve one, sometimes though he gets it wrong, or cant be bothered that day, or his staff let him down and some slip through.




posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 07:42 AM
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I can agree for most people. My wife and I have no interest in kids so I guess in a way it IS a way to show love for some but not for all. But you are indeed right kron about the love part

-Kyo



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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Of course not. Where do you get this idea from?


Theres been alot of news recently in the uk in regards to parents killing or abusing their children, also, in the news there has been complaints about some young mothers who are on facebook more often than looking after their child.
There seems to be a big increase in reports of abuse and deaths of children from 2008.



Yes there is a decent size number of good parents around who have been fortunate to have children, however, I do not believe this to be the majority.


I agree i am glad you comfirmed that




Are you serious about this? Really? If you are then fair enough for asking the question but boy are you are way off the mark. You are suggesting that the majority of parents are not decent or good..


I would say that quarter of parents around the world are irresponsible, neglectful and some what evil.



And can you give me the figures for this huge amount of abuse and killing of children from this majority of parents who you deem to be bad and irresponsible please.

You do know you are suggesting that more than 50% of parents are irresponsible and a huge number of them are involved in abuse and murder of children don't you?


Yes, i wundt say 50% though, you will have to search for th figures i dont know were or how to do that i can only go on what the news is reporting every two month or so.

www.lohud.com...



[edit on 1-3-2010 by anonymousproxy]



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by KyoZero
reply to post by Death_Kron
 


I can agree for most people. My wife and I have no interest in kids so I guess in a way it IS a way to show love for some but not for all. But you are indeed right kron about the love part

-Kyo


M and my wife do not want children at all for now, we don't want to have that burdan, we want to enjoy our lifes



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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This is a similar line of thought who think that parents of down syndrome children have done something wrong in a previous life, which is again disgusting

I agree, i don't like any parents who aganist other parents who have a disablity.






[edit on 1-3-2010 by anonymousproxy]



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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People feel the need to create and start families because they love their partner and want to create new life with them while at the same time continuing their bloodline.


Thats only a small minoirty



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 10:31 AM
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I know the questions are pretty self explanatory.

Originally posted by Death_Kron
With regards to having children, well unfortunately its pretty easy physically to have a child, the druggies/alcoholics and thugs are the way they are in the majority because of a lack of intelligence.



It's pretty easy to have kids? Not in the western world its not, i agree though in regards to lack of intelligence, some of them are pretty stupid.


On a nastier note some of the above types mentioned enter relationships unemployed and have children as a method to claim money and benefit financially from the government.


I agree on that one

[edit on 1-3-2010 by anonymousproxy]



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by charlie_the_loafer
Most of your questions are probably without answers while some questions may find an answer in : Life is unfair


But why is it unfair Charlie?


The dramatic decrease of the intelligence coefficient of the population may be the answer of "Why are a lot of parents immature?" .
They are basically children with children . Most of them don't know the values of family and they can't respect something they don't know
That's also a cause of many broken families


and why is that? lack of education? refusal of education? neglect?


More and more teenagers that are unable to have a clear judgement are becoming parents and when this happens they find themselves overwhelmed by the situation and aren't able of providing a proper education


I agree with that, I have had experiences were young mothers about 23 years of age who neglect their children. Drinking beer in front of there child and some strange reason the child rubbing its private parts on the floor. Saying that's nice. Yes that's right, i have even witnessed a mother who has stayed up all night until 6am in the morning away from her home drinking with the baby. One mother who went out clubbing the week after her birth, now what is all that about?



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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QUESTION why do drunk , aggresive men sire children so easy when lots of the good men don,t
ANSWER testosterone .



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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What is the thread about really, parent bashing? I dont even see a conspiracy here, just nasty judgment against single moms (read sluts) and single men (read deadbeat drunks).

I dont even know what to say without clarification of the OP.

Is this another depop. thread or something?

Good people have kids every day, and so do bad people.

Humans reproduce like all other animals, for survival of species.

If people choose to be childless, it sure doesnt give them automatic gold stars.

Maybe I just dont understand this topic??



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by anonymousproxy

I know the questions are pretty self explanatory.

Originally posted by Death_Kron
With regards to having children, well unfortunately its pretty easy physically to have a child, the druggies/alcoholics and thugs are the way they are in the majority because of a lack of intelligence.



It's pretty easy to have kids? Not in the western world its not, i agree though in regards to lack of intelligence, some of them are pretty stupid.


On a nastier note some of the above types mentioned enter relationships unemployed and have children as a method to claim money and benefit financially from the government.


I agree on that one

[edit on 1-3-2010 by anonymousproxy]


I said its pretty easy to have children physically i.e. the physical aspect of having sex can be achieved relatively easily in comparison to the amount of intelligence and maturity needed to raise children successfully.



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by anonymousproxy


People feel the need to create and start families because they love their partner and want to create new life with them while at the same time continuing their bloodline.


Thats only a small minoirty


I'd personally say that was the majority, you seem to have a negatively biased view that all couples have children for the wrong reasons.

As I stated above people do have children for the wrong reasons and its usually down to a lack of intelligence and a failure to provide contraception i.e. one night stands, immature relationships etc

But in general the reason couples have children are positive.



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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nothing in life just happens for no reason. and the family that we are born into is no exception. the family that we are born into is 100% karma related. we (and they) choose it before we are born for reasons that are specific to each person. the idea of being responsible for making a child, bringing a child into this world and being "responsible" for raising a child is all an illusion (which is why some people do not resonate with the idea).

i was born into an extremely dysfunctional and abusive family. my parents were the type of people who according to your comments had no right having children. most of my life was very difficult and full of an enormous amount of pain. but through the years i have come to realize as i have journeyed deep within to heal myself that they were selected (by both me and them) specifically as triggers for my journey. and they have been my greatest teachers.

most people do not yet appreciate the idea of karma so most people are not using the people and experiences in their life as a way to learn and grow and evolve. (this should be changing with the new earth).



posted on Mar, 1 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron



I'd personally say that was the majority, you seem to have a negatively biased view that all couples have children for the wrong reasons.


I disagree, and I do have a biased view. I believe those who are born, are been born under a selective production been created for some reason or another from whoever is in charge.

I also believe that at least half of all parents who have children, regret doing so. I do not believe it is for the positive reasons.
If these parents had it for positive reasons, no parent would complain about their own child's behaviour.

I believe a certain type of child should be born in a certain family. As it may "teach" ( in other words brutalise, force and enslave) the child if they are born in a squalor in India with rubbish all around them, or children dyeing every second in africa, you must ask the question for what?.

As I keep asking the question of why, which could be seen as self explanatory it must be answered. Simply answers such as "because life is unfair" is not a vaild answer nor is it intellgent, scientific answer and should be questioned as to why it is unfair.
Why is life so unfair? is that acceptable? if life is to change the world to change the first thing to do is remove negligible people as to stop the circle of continued arrogant, egoistic, greedy individuals ( which is the majority).

There has to be a selective process going on, because the majority of children who are born, the children who become adults, are virtually all corrupted.

If a child has been abused in a family, and later in life is unsuccessful in having a child themselves, that child is been punished, but by whom? and why?.

Of course there's a conspiracy, the conspiracy to give a select type of lifestyle that would continue the human suffering, not survival.

It's not the blame of the government, it's the blame of the selective production that has created the man made disasters on this earth. E.G whoever is in charge of the creation of energy.

Because of the parent's involved, the babies been born, are routinely and carefully planned for their life, without choice before been born, and am asking, why? i don't think its as simple as because life is unfair, that's not a good enough answer, there's a reason.

As a mature, intelligent adult, simple questions like this, should be investigated and asked why, some people may not know why, such as many things in life, but it has to be answered for us to progress and learn, understanding is very important.
If you are not willing to understand, to look at all things with a deeper view then, you can not complain about our society. When you quetion everything, only then can you change the world, the world know's you can not, so, it will change it for you.







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