World's most powerful atom smasher restarts: CERN

World's most powerful atom smasher restarts: CERN

www.physorg.com

Scientists have restarted the world's most powerful atom-smasher overnight, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) said Sunday, as they launch a new bid to uncover the secrets of the universe.

"The LHC is on its way again. First beam of 2010 circulated in each direction by 04.10 CET (0310 GMT)," said CERN in a tweet on its website on Sunday.

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Here we go again...

This machine still scares the living daylights out of me. I would like to think that we cannot possibly open a black hole big enough for it to sustain itself and devour the world, however, who knows.

This experiment is in the realms of the unknown... but i guess we'll never know if we never try.

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[edit on 1/3/2010 by SilentShadow]

In the weeks before the technical shutdown in December, the collider achieved over a million particle collisions and accelerated proton beams to energy levels never reached before, according to CERN.

From your own link.

I bet a lot of people did not know this, i bet a lot of those people are the same one's who have concerns or are just blatantly fearmongering.
Record levels have already been set and will continue to do so, with not a single Earth devouring black hole in sight.

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If a blackhole formed, we'd never know id say, a millisecond of delusion followed by ( .......................................... ).

The thing should be called *conCERNing* !!!!

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To create a black hole big enough to devour the Earth would take far more matter than they are smashing together. Part of the reason they chose the quantities they did is specifically for that purpose. They don't want to create a black hole that will envelop everything anymore than any of us want it to happen.

I think it would be in everyone's best interest to just relax and let them do what they know how to do. These people are no slouches when it comes to this kind of stuff. Quite honestly, I've been looking forward to the results of the tests now for some time.

TheBorg

I agree that most scientists think nothing will happen


the problem is that we really dont know yet what really is a black hole, we dont know exacly why so, its not is 100% safe

but I mean, I am sure the US gov already did a lot of these experiments, so, if our world could have ended, we already would be gone ... we should worry about other things, not this experiment

Black holes are purely theoretical. It's kind of masturbatory to carry on as if they are a proven fact. Many well qualified scientists don't believe they exist.

Here's a good website for those interested:

www.cosmology.info...

Most of the contributors are pretty conservative and offer some excellent arguments against certain aspects of mainstream theory. Check out their newletters.

And then? If we now what the universe created? What are they used than for? Has this thing multi function? or is this a waste of money again?

Originally posted by ni91ck
a waste of money again

Here more info about technical things, just 4 the smart guys???? Who can translate it in normal language¿¿¿¿ Thx 4 that. en.wikipedia.org...

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Do not worry about it we have something more powerful


Soz just couldn't help it. There is no danger from black holes created by CERN is my honest opinion.

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I think that the scientists who are running the LHC are smart enough to use this technology without causing an earth devouring black hole. I'm excited that it's back up and running

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I could not agree more. And the other thing that is exciting is the advances it will bring in the world of computing. If people understandably can't see the future outcomes of smashing atoms at least the computing grid is a visible accomplishment that can change the way the web is networked.

Restarting is going to take on new parameters and if I am correct, the "Future" will not allow the CERN to complete it's testing. In fact, by preventing CERN from completing its experiment is the only way of saving Earth and somehow these scientific wizards have yet to acknowledge that all efforts are being stifled for a meaningful reason and sooner or later someone in the group is going to show some backbone and confirm what I just explained.

No matter the truth, those that persist in continuing the experiments planned at full power have knowledge of a project so vast and so behemoth that any attempt to explain it would never be sufficient to explain what is going on and why it is going on.

The matter is so complex in its explanation that there is no way of understanding after hearing what could be going on. It's too much to grasp even for me and as such, I just hope that CERN does not continue its quest for the "God Particle" because something tells me finding the god particle is not going to be something that can be controlled by the likes of a human mind.

If the human mind can not control it then it would imply that if CERN goes ahead and completes their experiments it will lead to the total destruction of Earth and our entire Galaxy. A mistake that no one will live to complain about.

It is at present a mistake that can be avoided and with that being said, I pray that those of the future apply a more focused look at today and determine if anything can be done to once again to stifle the CERN's ability to continue its testing and experiments. I understand what it means for CERN to fail but at this juncture, CERN is also going to fail and if trading one disaster for another is anyway of dealing with the problem at hand, then I don't know what could be more metaphorically correct.

Do we want to die by planetary destruction or do we want to die from CERN's black hole? Hmmn, some choice huh, well that is where we are with CERN today. I opt for more time to see if matters can improve, but if not then action must be taken to keep CERN off line as long as possible.

Inputs equal change and change takes time, if enough change has been applied, then we will see CERN continue to fail. If not enough change has been appropriately applied here in the present, then it would explain any success in CERN's ability to complete full cycle in the near future. Either way, a more attentive focus must be placed on CERN because as the changes that have been applied have worked so far, it creates an element of randomness in the time line and as such, matters need to be addressed in the most timely fashion possible when changes begin to occur in the present.

It's my way of saying we may not have as long as we thought and CERN may just be the one doorway we should never open until one learns how to speak to God in the language that makes up the ether of space and time. Pretending will not suffice and this is why CERN is not capable of control over what happens if they continue.

This is why those of the future must act in the present to prevent any CERN advancement in testing at increased levels and for increased times of maximum generated fields. Once the mistake is made, it will be determined to be the beginning of the end and of course they don't plan on telling anyone of that failure for reasons which make sense only to those that believe not knowing is better than knowing.

I am will of the wisp, you are you and together we are riding the wave of time together to it's conclusion.

Originally posted by Wondering302
I think that the scientists who are running the LHC are smart enough to use this technology without causing an earth devouring black hole. I'm excited that it's back up and running

Are you sure? Are you sure no blindness comes from the excitement of a potential dangerous experiment?

Remember... it's well reported that 50% of scientists working on the atom bomb believed it was going to set off a chain reaction which would cause the entire world to blow up.

They did it anyway.

People put way to much faith in scientists IMO....I'm sure the thousands of pregnant women in the late 50's/early 60's believed that scientists 'knew what they were doing' when they created Thalidomide......look what happened there.

HUM just a thought u say started sunday night hum .i believe some weird lights and noises happened in northern europe slovakia an hungary sunday night might be a long shot but who knows is cern a concern. Acording to reports and a thread on ats authorities dident know what they was and meteors was ruled out. perhaps its the siberian domes another ats thread about a legend of a alien machine which starts up every 700years with lights in the sky as a warning it may be a legend but is something to it...???? I dont trust the cern experiment
but then again i hate when anything has to change anyways nothing wrong with steam trains and land lines hope they dont destroy france switz

What id like to see, and i know it's a ''touch'' off topic, is that, since Atom's are being smashed, collided (e.t.c) and are giving off huge amount's of energy, does anybody else think that they'll have a visit from some UFO's?
Only saying this on the basis that 'they are' apparently spotted above Nuclear plant's or even that they've (as some people say) only been intrested in Earth since the First Nuke was dropped.
Surely the Higsbosun (spelling?) particle would be another ''WOW Them Earthling's really like playing with fire" thought..?

And I agree with a few people here, that it's an interesting experiment, despite not knowing much about it. And if it did create a Black Hole big enougth to Swallow the Earth, it would be quite quick i belive.. That's if we dont get stuck in the singularity or event horizon where time apparently stop's?
An eternity in a Black Hole... Quite fitting really, since we are treated like mushroom's (kept in the dark and fed sh..).

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I personally don't think they will care until we find out how to use a renewable energy source and gain massive amounts of power out of it.

There is no reason to fear this machine.

1. One of these machines has already been built and used by the military.
2. If there were any danger, ETs would prevent any major disaster.
3. This whole "Search for the God (Higgs-Boson) particle" is just a big publicity stunt for this worldwide religion we call "Science".
4. In 2012, Science will have its new God. The grand theory of everything. Man becomes god in his mind.

Hold on to your hat, cause its gonna be a wild mind trip.