New Israeli Law Forbids Palestinians From Mourning Or “Showing Signs Of Sadness”

reply to post by fumanchu

Understatement? Israel has banned Israeli Arabs parties from running in elections and an Israeli Arab will never hold any senior political position because it's illegal for them to do so. Israel wouldn't know democracy if it punched it in the face.

You lie. Plain and simple. There are Israeli Arab Knseset members, there are "Arab" parties, there were Arab ministers and there will be Arab ministers. Maybe even Head of government. But it does not change the fact that you lie.

reply to post by December_Rain


Here is the link to the law ,it is word document, i posted it already. It does not mention nationality (though it would be hypocritical not to say that it is indeed targeted against Palestinians) so ideally it can be applied to anyone.
Again - link to the law (in Hebrew)
www.acri.org.il/pdf/bill1403.rtf
Once again, what source claims is lie. And funny thing is that even after i proved it people still go on with the farce.

reply to post by Bahb3

Facts are facts regardless who presents them to you!

Yes. The same with lies. Lies are lies regardless who presents it to you and your source present a lie.
Disregard it all you want.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


No, but you harvest organs without permission. I'm sure you think that's ok, though, and now with this bill, you want them to smile about it.

sad, it seems that israhell will never change its murderous and racist bigot ways , Israel reminds more and more of south africa apartheid

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


Your statements are baseless. Just about all of it. Even your username is baseless because you call yourself 'ZEROKNOWLEDGE" which I assumed meant that you do not act like you "know" anything sure which is a great way to maintain a scientific and more truth oriented stance than the way you just showed yourself. Prove that it isn't going to be enforced. Thank you.

and so the psychological warfare against the Palestinians continues

Please someone read the title and tell me Israelis aren't terrorists. They are terrorists for doing crap like this.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
You lie. Plain and simple. There are Israeli Arab Knseset members, there are "Arab" parties, there were Arab ministers and there will be Arab ministers. Maybe even Head of government. But it does not change the fact that you lie.

What have I lied about? I may be incorrect about it being illegal for an Arab to be the head honcho of Israel but I think anyone with more than one bean rattling around in their skull knows that will never happen. It wont happen because the powers that be in Israel will never allow it to happen and if that means preventing people from exercising their democratic right, that is exactly what they will do. They have done it before and they will do it again. Arabs are an underclass in Israel because the state of Israel is just plain racist. You being an apologist doesn't change that. Deny your ignorance dude.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by fumanchu]

The West Bank and Gaza are turning into big concentration camps. The Palestinian Authority might be able to provide law and order in their dumpy pieces of land, but not when the Israeli military is free to trample anyone they please, almost indiscriminately. Israel is deliberately manufacturing anarchy in a contained military zone, so that there will be a constant supply of angry jihadists and desperate militants to make petty attacks on the well-protected Israeli zone. They need the Palestinian ghettos in order to provide them with a pretext for invasions of other states; Lebanon, Syria and Iran have all been accused of supporting terrorism against Israel - nevermind that the state of Israel commits terrorist actions against its own legal subjects, nevermind that all people have a right to self-defense. Iran has a right to perform counter-intelligence against the belligerent Israeli state: a state which openly and repeatedly calls for extreme violence against a peaceful country like Iran.

Whether or not this story is true, it doesn't change the facts; Israel is an apartheid terrorist state masquerading as the victim of mythical Arab barbarians. It is in fact everything which it accuses the Arab nations of being!

reply to post by fumanchu

I may be incorrect about it being illegal for an Arab to be the head honcho of Israel but I think anyone with more than one bean rattling around in their skull knows that will never happen. It wont happen because the powers that be in Israel will never allow it to happen

That would be like a Jew being president of Iran or Palestine,

reply to post by Stormdancer777


It would yes, but when a country, any country, shouts from the rooftops about how it is a bastion of democracy and then introduce laws to prevent people (the opposition) from taking part in the democratic process, they are not a democracy at all. Scum maybe, but not a democracy.

reply to post by fumanchu



Every time an Israeli Leader steps towards peace he is shot by his own people or suddenly goes into a Coma.

Strange huh?

The part with the imprisonment for mourning may no longer be in the Nakba bill (I don't speak Hebrew and was unable to find the text of the bill in English), but it was in the first draft of this bill.

The bill, sponsored by Israel Beiteinu MK Alex Miller, prohibits holding events or activities that aim to mark the day of Israel's independence as a time of mourning or sorrow.

Those who violate the law could get up to three years in prison. The proposed legislation must pass three Knesset readings before it would become law, and it is likely to face heavy opposition, including from some coalition members.

www.jpost.com...

So there are some high ranking politicians in Israel, who want to forbid and censor mourning. Zeroknowledge provided a link to Alex Miller, who is the original sponsor of the bill. He is one of the Knesset members, who possesses such a repugnant mindset.

Originally posted by fumanchu
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

It would yes, but when a country, any country, shouts from the rooftops about how it is a bastion of democracy and then introduce laws to prevent people (the opposition) from taking part in the democratic process, they are not a democracy at all. Scum maybe, but not a democracy.

Has this been proven without a shadow of a doubt?

Originally posted by fumanchu

It would yes, but when a country, any country, shouts from the rooftops about how it is a bastion of democracy and then introduce laws to prevent people (the opposition) from taking part in the democratic process, they are not a democracy at all. Scum maybe, but not a democracy.

The great lovers of Freedom and Human Rights around here are never troubled and creating new threads daily on things like Saudi Arabia and places like the Emirates not even allowing Jews in the country, a Muslim government in Sudan slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people, the 16 Million Kurds being deprived of a rightful homeland, and on and on and on.

All this outrage and indignation is solely reserved for Israel alone, a country that extend full rights to it's 1.5 Muslim citizens.

No one intelligent is really fooled about the incessant Jew hatred that pollutes these boards.

Israel softens Nakba bill, rejects proposed loyalty oath
www.dailystar.com.lb...

e Israeli cabinet on Sunday softened a much-criticized bill on the Nakba, what many Palestinians lament as the "catastrophe" of the 1948 creation of Israel. The revised draft law now prohibits any government funds from being used for events marking the Nakba, instead of banning commemorations altogether, a government official said.

I didn't know anything about this, so I am just researching, but the few articles I found state they will not fund the events,

Does this mean they have been funding these events?

If so why?

also why should they be expected to fund the events?

reply to post by mmiichael


While some supposed "jew hatred" might appear in a few of the posts on this board, and many boards like it, criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism.

For some reason, Israel enjoys this only one in a planet status of not only being a state, but also being a state that is intrinsically connected, in both law and representation in government, with one particular ethnicity/religion. While Arabs are granted citizenship in the state of Israel, their representation is radically disproportionate to that of Jews.

And there are several reasons for this situation my disillusioned friend.

For instance:

Israel has what is known as the law of return.

This allows for either an ethnic Jew or a very select few non-Jews (wives of Jews, Grandmother is of Jewish descent, etc...) to repatriate to the country of Israel, but yet no such law exists for Arabs.
This land was illegally occupied by these so called "Israelis" (notice that I did not say "Jews" here. There is a big difference), and now they want to make blanket citizenship for one certain culture/religion, but not others.
Here in America, we call that racism.

Also, one might want to look at the literal disproportionate amount of land that many Arab families have been dispossessed of by the "Israelis".
These are families who have lived on the land for centuries and this dispossession was not only due to an an illegal occupation, but the Israeli Army proceeds to commit numerous warcrimes in the process.
(your guy. not mine)

And before you throw around phrases like "anti-semite", you might want to check out

these guys

or these guys

or these guys

Shalom.

Originally posted by Josephus23

For some reason, Israel enjoys this only one in a planet status of not only being a state, but also being a state that is intrinsically connected, in both law and representation in government, with one particular ethnicity/religion.

I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. Iran isn't an ethnically Persian regime whose leaders aren't Shiite Ayatollahs?

Saudi Arabia isn't 100% Muslim with strict Wahhabist Sunni control (not a single Jew) and the legal system is Sharia Law?

What other Middle East country aside from Israel allows Jewish, Muslim, Christians to practice their faith, equal citizen and human rights?

57 Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) countries many disallowing or restricting the rights of Jews and Christians. One cannot enter a country like Dubai and elsewhere if they have an Israeli stamp in their passport.

But of course Israel is the demon because it's the one country out of 192 that has a Jewish majority.

Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by fumanchu

It would yes, but when a country, any country, shouts from the rooftops about how it is a bastion of democracy and then introduce laws to prevent people (the opposition) from taking part in the democratic process, they are not a democracy at all. Scum maybe, but not a democracy.

The great lovers of Freedom and Human Rights around here are never troubled and creating new threads daily on things like Saudi Arabia and places like the Emirates not even allowing Jews in the country, a Muslim government in Sudan slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people, the 16 Million Kurds being deprived of a rightful homeland, and on and on and on.

All this outrage and indignation is solely reserved for Israel alone, a country that extend full rights to it's 1.5 Muslim citizens.

No one intelligent is really fooled about the incessant Jew hatred that pollutes these boards.

Because Saudi Arabia offers no illusions of being a fair and democratic society. Israel however, does. There's nothing wrong with holding a self-declared democracy to the rigours and expectations given to other democratic nations. That they are Jewish does not exempt them, no matter how much you think it should.

You want to talk about Jew hatred? What would you call a society that constantly plots and plans in such a way to undermine the rights and physical safety of Jews within its borders? A government that not only gives the enemies of Jews encouragement to strike against them, but also financially and morally supports those enemies? What would you call a government that could very easily change course to protect the jews within its borders from harm, undermine the haters, and safeguard ethnic harmony... but doesn't? What would you call people who gleefully sit at their computer rubbing one out on how awesome this government is for making its Jews more insecure by the minute?

I call it Israel, and I would call such a person you.