A Higher Message to Deliver

First I am an agnostic, so the dogmas of any one religion do not affect what will come in this message.

Last night, I had a rather profound experience that left me only one option, to deliver what I had seen heard and felt.

Many nights I go to bed thinking how nice it would be for someone, or something to take all of the worlds cares away. Last night something unusual happened, because before I went to sleep I actually asked the universe, that if I ever got a message I would deliver what was given to me. Not ever thinking the universe would deliver.

My night was very restless, so I got up around 4am and log onto ATS for awhile, then back to bed. At about 6:30am I had the most amazing experience, not of my life, but a message was given to me by what I believe to be a higher source trying to contact us all.

In this lucid state of awareness, I was floating above my bed for a brief moment, but then was gently pushed back down by an external force to my bed. While I felt no threat from this force it slowly seemed to pull the covering from my bed, up all around me like a flower, and felt total peace and comfort.

As I laid in this state of protection a woven Mandala pattern seemed to quickly form over my forehead, I was still in a state of comfort and in no harm, I began looking at the Mandala I heard a voice. “We hear you humans are asking for higher assistance” I mentally answer yes.

Images and information seem to flow from it.

Beautiful images, lights, colors of what will come to be, I was blubbering like a child, uncontrollably as the images and information flowed. This information was not just pictures, but seemed to be changing my mental, physical, and spiritual essence or my very being (kind of like a program being installed).

Words cannot do justice what I saw, felt, and experienced. What I did get is that this information is here for everyone now, they only need ask and let go, Yes we are here, then it stopped. I awoke vibrating from head to toe, filled with a new energy, I feel physically different too, weird.

I wish what I experienced for everyone that is reading this.

They are here for us.

[edit on 26-2-2010 by Realtruth]

Personal experiences are always the best. I know first hand, it makes believers out of people.

I can't say I've communicated with anything ET, but I've had a paranormal experience that changed my life. (im sure i wrote about it here somewhere)

Can you elaborate on the information? What views have changed and what new ideas and feelings do you now possess?

So you started crying in bed during a very strange occurrence within your "perceived" reality.

Pretty detailed stuff...too bad the message wasn't as detailed as the "creativity" behind the post.

Wish I could believe you...but it looks more like "somebody trying to make-up something profound" instead of "actually being something profound".

But like you said...I am free to take this as serious as I wish.

I take this very much "not seriously".

I also wonder...why are all the messages from space/god/entities/ghosts/etc ever anything shocking or above the average mentality of a typical Tv-junkie?

Its like they never deliver space maps, undiscovered mathematic equations or anything that would surly change the minds of 99% of all who heard it.

But nope...its always the same "hug a tree and love everyone" type of mumbo jumbo and always placed in the most simplest/shortest of sentences.

I think its easier for someone to make up a message like-

"Aliens want all humans to embrace love and turn away from yucky mean times"

Then it is actually receiving a message from unearthly (or other worldly) origins.

But eh...I am sure you will stick to this story...not like anyone admits to shenanigans when called on them.

If you do not mind, I will just bet on you being a story teller instead of a messenger of "aliens or whatever you are getting at".

I think it was the floating, blankets became petals and warmed your soul while a "woven mandala pattern" shoed up.

Yeah...right...woven Mandala pattern...very alien...sounds legit.

Ok...I'm kidding...sounds absolutely fabricated.




[edit on 26-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

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lol excellent interpretation especially the blanket flower say it all

Originally posted by imans
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lol excellent interpretation especially the blanket flower say it all

Call em how I see em.

This one was one of the easier calls in my life.

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Fortunately, those who have experienced these types of events understand that the message is just simply to remember how to love and to be loved, but above all, be Love. Since you clearly are entrenched in the 3D 'reality', you cannot yet comprehend just exactly how vital this message is. But feel free to continue your skepticism. We who know can move on. Don't feel like you need to comment any further on such topics. Let us know when you too know.

Love is the message. Heed the call.

Originally posted by sticky
Personal experiences are always the best. I know first hand, it makes believers out of people.

I can't say I've communicated with anything ET, but I've had a paranormal experience that changed my life. (im sure i wrote about it here somewhere)

Can you elaborate on the information? What views have changed and what new ideas and feelings do you now possess?

The information that came to me was more than my physical body/mental body could could handle or like I said overwhelmed my being, not in a bad way, but I don't think in our current state of being we can process it or even explain it verbally.

The only way to explain or compare is if I where to tell you how great a new Program or OS is for my computer, you could kind of understand, but unless you actually downloaded the program for yourself and used it, you wouldn't know what I was actually talking about.

Feelings and ideas, I know feel that we are in a state of choice each and everyone of us, some will choose darkness and some will choose light.

I don't think judging what people choices are is right, just different from what I saw people will gravitate to what they choose and their kind.

So kind of like graduating, those that want to move on to and are tired of certain people holding back the whole class will now be able to move on and actually achieve what they seek.

And those that choose to cause chaos, hold anger, hate, ignorance and lower emotion, in their hearts, will move on to their own special class, allowing them to move at their own pace without interfering with others.

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Usually when skeptics take a long winded stance it's because deep down they really are searching.

Don't give up that journey.

I'll have to agree with Mr. Mask and CosmicEgg. An award will shine on them.

I did enjoy reading your story but you tell nothing with it. The feeling you speak of is one I experienced to, but without flowers and the bees or aliens.

I would like to hear more about it.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg


Fortunately, those who have experienced these types of events understand that the message is just simply to remember how to love and to be loved,

Ah...so aliens put a lot of work into crossing the cosmos (physically, mentally, holographically etc) just to share "messages we got from cartoons as a child".

Got it...

Is there a reason that these messages have all the complexity and depth of an "after school special's ending one-liner"?

Are aliens just stupid?

but above all, be Love.

Be love...right.

Be an "emotion"...Be an emotion that is only definable by individual perspectives and personal views as different as the next.

Right...aliens wasted the time to broadcast that gem of "insight" across the universe.

How about FIRST sending a decent star map that proves higher understanding of unexplorded space?

AND THEN hit us with the sappy one-dimensional message of hippy love.

Bet more humans would listen...but nope...these super genius aliens from space seem to think sending woven Mandalas to random forum goers is the right way to spread this "love" they are all so hyped up about.

Yeah...there ya go...one guy learned about love from space...over 6.3 billion more to go.

Think they need a better plan to spread there "oh so advanced" ideals.

Since you clearly are entrenched in the 3D 'reality',

Are you admitting to willingly letting go of this "reality" to follow your urge to endlessly pan the empty river of "hogwash"?

Sorry...I'm busy exploring the universe I was miraculously born in.

I am not board enough, or deceitful enough to invent universes for attention or out of "hopeless fantasy worship".

you cannot yet comprehend just exactly how vital this message is.

Yeah...I roll with Jesus, saw every episode of the smurfs (and carebears) and I am a father. Your right, nothing in my life could have brought me to the level of understanding of "knowing love is good".

Yeah...I'm stuck lacking in the global paradigm shift that is happening right now. I just can't see that REAL ALIENS are sending ONE GUY on a forum detailed visions of "woven mandalas" and making him float in his bed while his blankets caress him like soft petals of a flower.

Yeah...I'm the guy who is "not able to comprehend".

Because this re-hashed version of "the golden rule" is so fricken NEW and advanced.

Right...

But feel free to continue your skepticism.

Feel free defending and vouching for random strangers on a public forum telling you aliens contacted them last night.

We who know can move on.

And those who are gullible or "wrong" can only sit there and make fools of themselves while they are not taken seriously by their rational peers.

Don't feel like you need to comment any further on such topics.

Don't ever consider yourself someone important enough to advise me on when to confront silliness.

Let us know when you too know.

I just did...and the sad thing is, you are still pretending as if you are on the inside of some secret circle of "higher then the rest of humanity" types who have contact with aliens.

You have no contact with aliens...

Love is the message. Heed the call.

Honesty is more important then love...because if you can't be honest, your love is second-hand and tarnished.

Deceit is a slap in the face...an attack.

There is no love in inventing fantasies just so you can pretend they are real while you try to belittle those who don't believe your baseless story.

A random stranger says "aliens told me to love you".

And you believe him...no questions asked...and then start with this "we" agenda, as if you both belong to the same book-club.

Right...a rational person wouldn't assume this guy is possibly lying eh?

No?

It's not like he gave us information that couldn't be faked..."just love people"

Yeah...your probablly right...this sounds 100% real, and dosn't scream "cry for attention" at all.

I'm being sarcastic.

Anyone saying aliens delivered them detailed information is either "a little loony" or running a scam...

But not you...you KNOW this guy is telling the truth.

Why? Who the hell knows...

All I know is...you don't seem to reserve a rational perspective or sense of judgement.

You just go "all in" and scream "THIS GUY IS LEGIT!"

Yeah...agenda...and a big honking one at that.




[edit on 26-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

No one is saying aliens are delivering a message, just you.

In fact, my experience didn't feel alien at all.

What does feel alien to me is the lies, deceit, anger, chaos that is going on day to day.

Usually when skeptics take a long winded stance it's because deep down they really are searching.

Don't give up that journey.





[edit on 26-2-2010 by Realtruth]

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Your time will come when you further understand what Life is about!
The only thing that is real is LOVE! You said Love is a one-dimensional thing but I can assure you Love is infinite.
With Love you create the world the universe, with hate you destroy all things.
We are co-creators next to the creator. May Love fill your heart!

Originally posted by Realtruth

And those that choose to cause chaos, hold anger, hate, ignorance and lower emotion, in their hearts, will move on to their own special class, allowing them to move at their own pace without interfering with others.

Ok, lets take out our BS meters and look at this RATIONALLY.

Last night, an ALIEN contacted you...and you ran here to detail it in all its glory. You added the "woven mandalas" and the "flower petal blankets"...heck, you even had the whole "love thing".

Pretty neat for an alien contact...but then the post ended.

Once confronted you added the new quote above...more information.

The relivation that "mean angry people" get sent to- what you vaguely call- "their own special class".

WHY WAS THAT BIT OF INFO NOT IN THE OP?

No...before you think I am nit picking...I am being very serious here and this is totally relevant.

AN ALIEN CONTACTED YOU WITH SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE...and in the RUSH to post it...this incredible story wouldn't fill half a 5th grade essay.

You type out less then 4 paragraphs (wow moving experience there) and then feel its "robust enough to post", but then return minutes later to add "new information" to the "message you received".

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but if someone was about to post about an alien contact (most wouldn't I'd assume), wouldn't they be going through the following steps-

1) Post EVERYTHING about said contact, in hopes to find others who could pick up on similar details in your story, so they could contact you and compair notes?

But nope...its a bland "fisher-price-my first-alien-message" of "love people, it is good".

2) Wouldn't you be writing your butt off and detailing the story a bit more then say "the vague peice of work" you left in the OP? You used "woven mandalas" for Christ's sake! That shows you have an urge to write with flowing vernacular and vivid imagery!!!

But...alls the story said in the end was "Aliens told me to love you" and thats it!

I dunno...a book could be written about this kind of moment...yet you are stuck trying to fill half a paragraph with "relevant information" and left using more "choreography" then actual message.

3) Wouldn't any sane person question even their own mind on this? Wouldn't you at least reserve a tiny bit of your mind in thinking "you had a hallucination" or "your mind played tricks on you"?

Nope...you know its aliens.

Yeah...I regret to tell you "someone who doesn't doubt there own fantastic experiences with aliens" are in a dangerous place to be in life.

I just find it funny that this story evolved.

Why new information? Didn't this strange event AMAZE and enlighten you enough to have shared every detail in your OP? It's not like you didn't have time to do so.

You could have shared the whole message...

But no...it changed...now there is this added part where "certain types" (unlike you, am I right?) get sent somewhere bad...while you go somewhere good...

Sorry man...an average person filling out a typical crime report is more thorough in delivering the facts on what went down, then you and your ever changing story of "contact".

PS- Your comment on skeptics who use lots of sentences to make a point - actually being people looking to believe...what's that? More made up rhetoric that looks cute on a Hallmark card but has no statistical or psychological studies/proof to back it up?

Something tells me you like doing that a lot.

Your Ego speaks volumes.

One day you'll understand what that actually means.

Good luck to you on your journeys, since there are many paths to take.


Peace out.

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I thank you for your reply. I also apologize for starting the ET confusion in the thread.

Mask almost had me convinced in his first post that you were storytelling, he should have left the thread alone.

After further review, I know which internet personality I'd trust more.

Originally posted by Realtruth
First I am an agnostic

a message was given to me by what I believe to be a higher source trying to contact us all.

was gently pushed back down by an external force to my bed.

I heard a voice. “We hear you humans are asking for higher assistance”

No one is saying aliens are delivering a message, just you.

An intelligence (stating a 'we'), contacting you and communicating the "will of the universe" is about as alien as one thing gets...

For you to choose this as your reply after I have wasted so much hard work pointing at the weak points and loose holes in your "incredibly vague" OP, is just a disappointment.

Please explain why the message you received keeps getting bigger and more detailed as you continue posting here?

Why didn't you have that added information in the OP?

Perhaps you are making things up as you go along?

That would fit a little better then "oh I forgot, the alien ALSO told me yadda yadda, and I am just adding this now".

Really...think about it.











[edit on 26-2-2010 by Realtruth]

[edit on 26-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

[edit on 26-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by Realtruth
Your Ego speaks volumes.

One day you'll understand what that actually means.

Good luck to you on your journeys, since there are many paths to take.


Peace out.

Yes, yes, yes...one day I'll float with mandalas and petals as the secret space voice tells me how special I am.

Then I can take this message with me as I use it as a passive weapon to try and make other people feel "lower then me".

Can't wait...

Sorry...I rather remain "right" and un-suckered by a story that changes by the minute.

Stories that evolve or change within minutes of telling them, especially when they involve contact from alternate dimensions/space/god/etc, are probably just stories.

And as for the guy who is saying "you trust the random stranger telling you he is being contacted my voices" over the guy telling you "don't go trusting strangers online telling you they hear voices"...that is your choice.

I have no idea why anyone would make that choice, myself.

Good luck navigating the seas of your future. Keep your money somewhere safe and try not to be bamboozled out of the family cow too early in your quests on planet earth.

Mr. Mask ... my god.

Take a deep breath. Now I know your mind tells you that anyone who speaks of an experience like this is "pushing an agenda" or just talking BS but the fact is, rational, sane people report experiences like this all of the time.

Now deep down, if this was really possible, wouldn't you like to experience something like this? Something amazing that totally blew your socks off? Something that changed your whole reality?

The only reason it won't happen for you is because you are terrified of what that might mean for you. It would mean your point of view and beliefs, everything you have worked to achieve in your life would be flipped upside down and that scares the s*** out of you.

Just because you haven't experienced it doesnt mean it isnt real. If you were to open your mind just a little bit and let go of your beliefs for just a second, you might just have an amazing experience like the OP did. And the funny thing is it would be amazing and give you a whole new outlook on life and fill you with energy!

But your ego desperately fears an experience like this and you are entrenched in your belief system and thats why you lash out and attack the OP. Because you are terrified of something like that happening to you so it "cant be real."

The choice is yours, open up to the unknown and experience something new and amazing, or stay scared and relatively comfortable.

Mr. Mask,

Did you or did you not write this in your Introduction?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

2-I see a lot of hostile people looking to destroy or dismantle people’s posts here with little respect for the feelings of the OP. I will not be part of such behavior. I am someone who feels very “at peace” with peace.

Why do you feel the need to attack the OP? There are ways to disagree without attacking someone. Replies like yours make it so hard for people to post anything for fear of being unjustly attacked.

I'd like to thank the op for sharing his/her experience.

The information that came to me was more than my physical body/mental body could could handle or like I said overwhelmed my being, not in a bad way, but I don't think in our current state of being we can process it or even explain it verbally.

The only way to explain or compare is if I where to tell you how great a new Program or OS is for my computer, you could kind of understand, but unless you actually downloaded the program for yourself and used it, you wouldn't know what I was actually talking about.

But you could at least try. Otherwise this doesn't look genuine.

Your title is "A Higer Message to DELIVER"...and yet you have delievered nothing. You even say that you told the "universe" that you WOULD deliver it if recieved...and you haven't even tried.


I don't put these types of experience out of the realm of possibility...but I see too many of these that are built up with a great story and built up with great detail and emotion...right up until the point of the actual message and then it is either "words can't describe the message", "no one would understand the message", or "you can't handle the message".

I actually asked the universe, that if I ever got a message I would deliver what was given to me.

Fulfill your promise to the universe.

[edit on 26-2-2010 by OutKast Searcher]

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Originally posted by Realtruth
In this lucid state of awareness, I was floating above my bed for a brief moment, but then was gently pushed back down by an external force to my bed. While I felt no threat from this force it slowly seemed to pull the covering from my bed, up all around me like a flower, and felt total peace and comfort.

This is interesting because I meditate often and I can relate to the feeling of floating up into the ceiling. I am also aware a lot of the time of becoming aware of a hidden space around me that surrounds the physical space I am currently in. This is where it gets interesting and difficult to describe but I will try to describe it to the best of my ability.

When deep within a meditative state I sense that beyond my room, beneath me is another space that can only be perceived when deeply meditating, the room is concave and lined with a gleaming mixture of brushed gold and bronze that gleams and seems to be an intrinsic part of me somehow. A gentle full body vibration comes first then the hidden spaces I call hidden because they are always here but hidden in plain sight? Their walls are always jammed with some sort of writing or etchings that I have no hope of reading because the experience is incredibly overpowering, spiritual in nature.

I am aware of the force powering my human mind becoming subtly different, disconnecting from reality and either it is connecting to another reality or it is creating another reality because surely the spaces that I often see are not real even though for the time I am mediating they are as real as the laptop on my lap.

Last week I lay beside a tree and meditation allowed me to see the root system falling through a cavern into a room lined with details similar to hieroglyphs, brushed gold and bronze – the same spaces obviously a mind creation as I had my eyes closed and my mind was cavorting beneath me like a dolphin slipping between the waves on the firth of forth.

For me during these rare events I am certain that what I am seeing is very real but my eyes are closed and yet I can see. Another thing I also see is concentric and much defined spiral patterns that remind me very much of the spiral patterns of say – what was seen in the sky above Norway.

There is a loose similarity but it is one that did catch my mind’s eye when it happened and shortly afterwards came a sense that I am not alone within my state of thought and someone else is sharing my space with me. It is always a feeling of a very powerful love and a high intelligence like a father or mother guiding their child like I am the most important person breathing and yet I am just a man and I am not delusional and realise that I am important only to those whom love me.

However the feeling or powerful love and warmth continues to swarm around me and I am bathed in multicolour’s of light, a hazy diffuseness that persists and reaches out like the arms of fire that arc out from our star.

I am trying to do justice to the sights and sounds of the state of meditation but it is not enough and I can relate to you just a fraction of the event. Such a realisation is very frustrating but I am trying because the OP did strike a chord with me and I feel it important to support the OP because the sentiment behind the OP finds some resonance with me and the feelings I experience when I am enjoying a deep and successful meditation.

I feel that if there is a message to be gained from these meditational experiences that it is of utmost importance to love others, do no harm, physical or mental to others because everyone has to pay for their “crimes” at a later point? Now there are no words spoken just a feeling that manifest deep within and the sceptic within me has to conclude that my human mind in disconnecting from reality via the power of binaural beats has combined with deep meditation and related visualisation techniques.

With these tools I have created my own realm where I can see while in total darkness and while my eyes are shut and masked. I do not enjoy this urging that I should love others as to be honest I prefer my own company a great deal of the time and in being honest I have to admit to subscribing to powerful feelings of contempt when I am associating with others and I do not enjoy this because I happen to feel strong empathy for those around me.

I prefer human company at a distance however because in the end I am left with a feeling that they all too often say nothing that is really worth the expending of energy it took to open mouth and utter their pearly words of whatever. Therefore in being a loner because of my distrust and disdain for human company the paradox that I try very hard to respect another is not lost on me.

Originally posted by RealtruthAs I laid in this state of protection a woven Mandala pattern seemed to quickly form over my forehead, I was still in a state of comfort and in no harm, I began looking at the Mandala I heard a voice. “We hear you humans are asking for higher assistance” I mentally answer yes.
Images and information seem to flow from it.

I have rarely heard voices but I do hear a high pitched keening that shifts and changes pitch and sometimes even slides from right to left as if a speaker is being moved. The high pitched keening is an indication that I am in for a successful meditational journey with the insights gained to be logged upon my notebook later.

The only times I ever hear voices are when I have done something wrong and in hearing voices I know that I might be in for a rough ride and that it might be worth aborting the meditational journey because the voices I hear tend to be the screams of dying or maimed people that are obviously memories from my distant past. To continue means I will relive the experience and in doing so I tend to come out of it drained and emotional to the point I weep or cry out.

Originally posted by RealtruthBeautiful images, lights, colors of what will come to be, I was blubbering like a child, uncontrollably as the images and information flowed. This information was not just pictures, but seemed to be changing my mental, physical, and spiritual essence or my very being (kind of like a program being installed).

Oddly enough I can relate to this, specifically the lights and colours. You know when you roll your eyes back into your sockets and see the owl-eyed lights? Well the deeper into meditation I go the more I am aware of a gentle floor of lights, similar in strength to the owl-eyed lights, only this new light forms at the bottom of my eye sockets and it rises up like a tide in conjunction with a higher pitched song through the background singing, a keening related to the lights beneath my eyes that becomes so intense I feel like my head will burst. Paradoxically it is not an unpleasant feeling and a feeling of intense overpowering love fills me. It feels so real I have a strong urge to open my eyes and look at what light source in the room is polluting my meditation – who is messing with me?

I have to forcibly remember that not only are my eyes closed but the room is in total darkness and my eyes are shielded with a thick sleeping mask. There is no way for light to break into my senses and yet there is a very real light phenomenon right there and it only takes a distraction in breathing to cause it to fade to be replaced by the “normal” sounds akin to a tuning fork that we all hear during meditation.

Could you tell me if you have “perceived” the hidden rooms lined with brushed bronze/gold and have you felt the strange full body vibrations that are synonymous with these rooms?