The Destroyer Star & The Future of Mankind

reply to post by NoahTheSumerian


Maybe the moderator can step in here and remove all of the posts that are off topic and the thread can shrink down to its essence.

reply to post by stereologist


This oft-misattributed quality of Sitchin's writing; that it is somehow 'fictional', is complete BS. :bnghd:

Anyone who has read any of his books will know that of course some of his conclusions are possibly awry, justifying ongoing investigations... No-one has all the answers.

However, that there is legitimate academic enquiry AND physical/ textual evidence incorporated into very thoroughly researched presentations is beyond doubt - a simple matter of fact.

You, Stereologist, are a Grade 1, Category A, First Class Troll. :down:

However, I will come back to this with a list of sources (and hopefully links) to deal with your list of (as yet, on this particular thread) non-refuted points. NB - That you arrogantly attribute those particular contentions to your own analysis, only adds to the non-credence of your position.

reply to post by stereologist


How is the post you replied to off-topic - are you completely mental..? I'm offering you the assurance that I will satisfy your request for evidence. You truly are trolling.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Vicious Jones

 

The most important thing you can do when watching a Lucus video is ask yourself, "Is that a fact or didn't he just draw conclusion?" When says spirals are associated with death. That is a conclusion. The trees are dead. That is a conclusion. These are conclusions based on his interpretation of the image. He is providing a translation without any knowledge of the subject matter. So watch out for the conclusions in the videos.

It also pays to check the sources. Read some of the sources and see if the information presented is cherry picked from the source.

PS Pole shifts have not happened in the last 200 million years, probably even longer.
Apparent and true polar wander and the

geometry of the geomagnetic field over the last 200 Myr

That would be what I meant to say in less words, indeed you are correct when you say watch out for conclusions. And like you mentioned it is important to check sources. PS I didn't say I believed in a pole shift either, I was just emphasizing that we seem to be covering/arguing over a small portion of what was brought up in the video. Seeing as I am too lazy, about to leave work and you pushed it further please do let me know when the next pole shift will happen/when its expected since your last link was broken and doesn't offer me much of anything. Cheers

[edit on 7-5-2010 by Vicious Jones]

reply to post by NoahTheSumerian


Is it a lot easier just hitting the ignore button on here?
Whats happening to all the threads recently, getting trashed regardless?

reply to post by NoahTheSumerian


Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated. Looking forward to your evidence.

reply to post by Vicious Jones


Bummer about the broken link. It seems that there was a pole shift around 800 million years ago. That pole shift may have led to the "Cambrian explosion".

Apparent and true polar wander and the geometry of the geomagnetic field over the last 200 Myr

The following article is for the pole shift 800 million years ago.
Combined paleomagnetic, isotopic, and stratigraphic evidence for true polar wander from the Neoproterozoic Akademikerbreen Group, Svalbard, Norway

Originally posted by jazz10
reply to post by NoahTheSumerian

 

Is it a lot easier just hitting the ignore button on here?
Whats happening to all the threads recently, getting trashed regardless?

yeah, I noticed that and it has to do with one member by the name stereologist.

I bet he does work for NASA just by the title of his screen name.

reply to post by dragnet53


Look up stereology to learn something about this science.

Stereology - wikipedia

it's pretty interesting stuff you'll find.

reply to post by dragnet53


Yep not only stereologist theres just a couple more

It has taken quite some time for me to find this video, holy stain if that aint an understatement… But here it is Comet Nibiru? fast forward to minute10 in the video to see what it is I’m referring to when I say, “I’ve seen a video of a [[supposed]] comet that made me go… hmm, now that’s damn interesting… Could there be something to this whole Nibiru thingy…” Before I saw this video I was like, I don’t believe any of it… after that video I was like… well perhaps I should open my mind to the possibility.




As I searched for the video linked above I stumbled upon this video I also found interesting… Collection of Comets


Now, regarding my friend who can read Cuneiform, he has responded to my text. He has wrote some interesting things… The first part seems to agree with what stereologist had to say… they speak of multiple planets but not more then 5 planets in any one text specifically… (I’m still waiting for him to let me know if each group of 5 are the same five or five separate planets. ) However… he said something else I found very interesting… He said the Sumerians also talked about the moons of Jupiter… And that Sumerians did not talk of or about Venus… Which I’m like, how the hell could they’ve missed Venus??? He said in his short reply… They speak of Ioptus/Iaptus as a planet, or more correctly a BASE… Ioptus is a moon around Jupiter which if that is true… if they speak of moons around Jupiter… then that all by itself destroys stereologist concept that no culture talked about anything other then 5 planets and 5 planets only… there is more my friend had to say, but I am trying to workout a conversation with him, hopefully sometime this weekend, where I’ll ask questions with a notebook and then post his answers and sources here.

Now, stereologist you need to show at least two lies Lucus has purposely posted on his website… I read within another thread here in 2012 that you are upset with his opinions more so then his linked information… I found that to be telling, extremely telling… However as I’ve shown I am living up to my part of the deal… so far you have not.

SO I AM CALLING YOU OUT Stereologist… Post at least two lies from Lucus‘ website!!!


--Charles Marcello


[edit on 8-5-2010 by littlebunny]

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by NoahTheSumerian

 

Maybe the moderator can step in here and remove all of the posts that are off topic and the thread can shrink down to its essence.

stereologist you have got to be kidding... If the moderators started deleting off topic posts, or posts where the poster posts nothing but insults, then almost every single one of your posts would need to be deleted... How laughable....

I also notice NoahtheSumerian took you to task

posted by NoahtheSumerian

This oft-misattributed quality of Sitchin's writing; that it is somehow 'fictional', is complete BS.

Anyone who has read any of his books will know that of course some of his conclusions are possibly awry, justifying ongoing investigations... No-one has all the answers.

However, that there is legitimate academic enquiry AND physical/ textual evidence incorporated into very thoroughly researched presentations is beyond doubt - a simple matter of fact.

You, Stereologist, are a Grade 1, Category A, First Class Troll.

And you’ve done nothing to address his statement, the part about you being a troll notwithstanding.

From my perspective, it would appear you are nothing but a dis-info/flame agent. I don’t know if you’re paid or if its just something you get off on… You rudely tell folks they’re wrong, or their sources are wrong or liars, and then when you finally post a web source in your attempt to refute what they had to say… you do so as if it was handed down to you by god himself. Your attitude alone means you are not here to talk, you are here to flame. Not only that, there are other things you’ve said that raises a lot of questions… Your attitude gets extremely old extremely fast. If you would stop being so rude you might find people will respond to you and your information more openly, as it stands I totally understand why everyone is looking at you sideways.

(As an aside: Has anyone else noticed these attacks on Nibiru stuff is happening on the Internet at several places at once? I wonder if there is an agenda/hidden reason behind all these attacks… I wonder if all these attacks are to stop us from looking up, or are they being done to help lessen the coming blow… because Nibiru might already be, or will be soon, visible to everyone worldwide??? I don’t know if that is true… but my antenna is way up there)


--Charles Marcello

I beleive that there is a point in space where more debris is likely to settle. I also believe planet earth will go into this debris field like it has several times before in the past. I also believe that this event is a very long time from event to event, when the earth passes into this debris feild. I suppose it is hard to believe when noone living has actually been thru the event, or any records survived to believe. We still are trying to figure out what caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. We can only speculate on different events or time periods. I myself will leave an open mind in this topic of conversation.

reply to post by littlebunny

(As an aside: Has anyone else noticed these attacks on Nibiru stuff is happening on the Internet at several places at once? I wonder if there is an agenda/hidden reason behind all these attacks… I wonder if all these attacks are to stop us from looking up, or are they being done to help lessen the coming blow… because Nibiru might already be, or will be soon, visible to everyone worldwide??? I don’t know if that is true… but my antenna is way up there)


--Charles Marcello

yes, the increase in "attacks" at people who believe in Nibiru is really increasing a lot. I believe the news about a possible existence is spreading and the powers that be don't want people knowing. Also notice in the MSM that special "events" are increasing to keep us busy like the oil rigs collapsing or the NYC suspect bombers.

Just more food for thought.

reply to post by littlebunny


Just checked out the video and saw a few things. The 19.47 latitude claims is bunk. Olympus Mons is not at 19.47.

The comet is NEAT. It had a large coma and typical small nucleus. It's orbit was not affected by the CME. The instrument was the SOHO satellite.

Amazing Live Images: Sungrazing Comet Possibly Hit by Solar Eruption

Not the first time it happened.
Comet - wikipedia
There is a movie of a comet losing its tail due to a CME hitting a comet.

Comet nuclei are known to range from about 100 meters to more than 40 kilometres across.

Hale Bopp Image

SWAN observed a huge cloud of hydrogen, 70 times the size of the Sun, that surrounded Comet Hale-Bopp when it neared the Sun. Ultra violet light, charted by SWAN in 1997, revealed a cloud 100 million kilometres w ide and diminishing in intensity outwards (contour lines). The cloud was generat ed by a comet nucleus perhaps only about 40 kilometres in diameter.

reply to post by stereologist


Lets say I agree with you and your source... (paraphrasing) You said that comet NEAT was insignificant... It was hardly anything at all… if we are to believe what you've been spouting these last few days... If what you said is true, then is your source lying now? That looks like an awfully big nothing. I remember saying NEAT entered and left our Solar System and not a word was said... It had to be leaked if memory serves me correctly...

I also said that not a single amateur astronomer posted anything about that big ass comet. And you said, it wasn't a big ass comet... Yet that video I presented, and the link you provided seems to suggest that it was a big ass comet. Yet, not one amateur astronomer noticed it, not one!!! Which has me thinking about the argument you made about Nibiru… you and other Planet X debunkers have said… if Nibiru existed at all, amateur astronomers would be posting videos of it all over the place… yet when this NEAT comet, or whatever it was, came through our solar system not one amateur astronomer posted anything about it. That seems to shoot holes in your theory as well.

What I'm I to believe, you? Your source? The video I provided… or how about all the videos amateur astronomers never posted about that comet? I mean you’re trying to have it both ways… Because of that and your repeated attempts to muddy or confuse this issue, should I now believe all the stories about a coming Destroyer/Wormwood? I'm so confused... Who and what am I to believe???


I know, I'll keep looking for evidence and make up my own mind and not allow anyone to force their opinion on to me. Not you, not them, not the government, no one… Also, please stop with your negative statements about people’s video’s or websites links, for the love of god please stop it!!!

Plus, that Bopp picture... it don't mean anything, hell I can't even tell what I'm looking at. Sure I read what they say they want me to see, but just because they say what it is I'm supposed to be seeing, that doesn't mean I'm seeing what they say. That picture truly means nothing... and I downloaded the best resolution to see if it was a better picture, and I even zoomed in... it still looks like a big bunch of nothing!!! I wonder if that was done to make comet NEAT seem not so scary??? Either way, that picture of Bopp seems to be a giant piece of nothing... but perhaps that just me...


--Charles Marcello

P.S. I would suggest people read what Mother Shipton's Prophecy is regarding our time... Was she talking about this comet, NEAT, as the one that comes back??? All I know is, time will tell... You decide!!!



[edit on 9-5-2010 by littlebunny]

reply to post by littlebunny


It wasn't a 'big ass' comet.

I think you are confusing the difference between nucleus and coma.

I remember saying NEAT entered and left our Solar System and not a word was said... It had to be leaked if memory serves me correctly...

Comet NEAT was visible to the naked eye. It was posted all over the internet and newspapers.

March. 19, 2004
Your guide to a double-feature comet show
May will be ‘sweeps month’ for Comets LINEAR and NEAT

01 May 2004
Night Sky for May

31 January 2003
Spacewatch Friday: Promising New Comet Called NEAT (C/2002 V1) Graces Evening Sky

April 26, 2004
"Naked Eye" Comets to Streak Into View Within Days

Another "NEAT" Comet

Comets in Recent Years

UPDATE (February 7, 2003) Over the past several months Comet NEAT has brightened slowly, and currently is perhaps slightly brighter than 15th magnitude. For the most part it has remained too faint for visual observations, but has been relatively easy to image with CCDs. At this writing Comet NEAT (presently 5.8 AU from the sun) is about ready to disappear into conjunction with the sun, but should reappear in the morning sky in five to six months. By that time it should be bright enough to be detected visually (perhaps 12th magnitude) but will be at a declination of about -40 degrees and heading southward; observations will be difficult, at best, from the northern hemisphere, but should be relatively easy from the southern hemisphere.

Mar 01, 2004
Two Naked-Eye Comets At Once

Comet NEAT is not especially keen, nor does Comet LINEAR travel a particularly straight line. Instead, both are named for the robotic telescope survey programs that discovered them. The programs locate comets so prolifically that many comets have shared the same names, including some reasonably bright comets, hence the importance of using the comets' full designations.

On August 28, 2001, the Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams at CfA announced the discovery of Comet C/2001 Q4 by the Near Earth Asteroid Tracking (NEAT) program, for which the comet was named.

Astronomers describe the brightness of celestial objects using a magnitude scale: the higher the magnitude number, the fainter the object. When found, Comet NEAT glowed at only 20th magnitude, about 400,000 times fainter than the faintest star visible to the unaided eye.

Yet predictions indicate that Comet NEAT may brighten to 1st or 2nd magnitude in late April and remain that bright through mid-May, making it visible to skygazers, possibly even with light-polluted city skies. From non-light-polluted, clear skies, Comet NEAT may be visible to the unaided eye from early April through late June.

I also said that not a single amateur astronomer posted anything about that big ass comet. And you said, it wasn't a big ass comet... Yet that video I presented, and the link you provided seems to suggest that it was a big ass comet. Yet, not one amateur astronomer noticed it, not one!!!

I guess you didn't research this statement - at all.
Comets C/2002 T7 (LINEAR) and C/2001 Q4 (NEAT)
Comet C/2001 Q4 (NEAT)
AstroPhotography Australia
Reports from Geisei Observatory
Meade Gallery of Astrophotography

Basically you did zero research and did not look at news sources from MSNBC, the internet, printed newspaper or anything else. To paraphrase you it makes anything you say rather doubtful.

Do some basic research. Find out what comets are. Find out why a comet may look like a large object under certain viewing situations. Learn more about the instrument used to make the video.

Also, please stop with your negative statements about people’s video’s or websites links, for the love of god please stop it!!!

You gone and posted a string of basically lies here. It was unbelievably trivial to show that NEAT was mentioned across major news outlets and that amateur astronomers posted photos of the comet. I did not cover blogs here from people that saw the comet with their naked eye. People in my neighborhood saw the comet because the local news mentioned the possibility of seeing the comet.

If you think it is negative for me to show that you made a major blunder here, then so be it.

Originally posted by stereologist

Basically you did zero research and did not look at news sources from MSNBC, the internet, printed newspaper or anything else. To paraphrase you it makes anything you say rather doubtful.

How funny... you seem to have forgotten I started that post with...

Lets say I agree with you and your source...

But of course you would completely ignore that so you could call another person here on ATS a liar!

You gone and posted a string of basically lies here. It was unbelievably trivial to show that NEAT was mentioned across major news outlets and that amateur astronomers posted photos of the comet. I did not cover blogs here from people that saw the comet with their naked eye. People in my neighborhood saw the comet because the local news mentioned the possibility of seeing the comet.

If you think it is negative for me to show that you made a major blunder here, then so be it.

However, I will tip my head towards you... What a wonderful chess move you played and I fell for it... It won't happen again so easily...


--Charles Marcello

But of course you would completely ignore that so you could call another person here on ATS a liar!

You are again using a straw man argument. You completely blew it and now want to cover up your failure to do research. How can anyone trust anything you say wen you can't even get the trivial things correct?

Go learn about the difference between comas and nuclei. Do a little research. You'll like it.

Originally posted by stereologist

But of course you would completely ignore that so you could call another person here on ATS a liar!

You are again using a straw man argument. You completely blew it and now want to cover up your failure to do research. How can anyone trust anything you say wen you can't even get the trivial things correct?

You said it, why would I care about the trivial things, that subject or worrying about what you have to say. Etc, etc… But there is something I do care about…

You still haven't done your part of our agreement, and I'm a straw man, WTFever... How laughable... When are you going to post those lies you talked about? We are all still waiting? And you call me a straw man!

Here let me remained you…

Originally posted by littlebunny

Now, stereologist you need to show at least two lies Lucus has purposely posted on his website… I read within another thread here in 2012 that you are upset with his opinions more so then his linked information… I found that to be telling, extremely telling… However as I’ve shown I am living up to my part of the deal… so far you have not.

SO I AM CALLING YOU OUT Stereologist… Post at least two lies from Lucus‘ website!!!


--Charles Marcello