Woman avoids jail after sex with boy

Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
reply to post by harrytuttle

 

at 14 years old i knew more in the way of sex education than the vast majority of adults i knew. I was very full well understanding of the consequences, possible pregnancy, possible std's, hiv/aids, all of it. i was VERY aware of any and all consequences and at the age of 14 if i had needed to make personal choices in this area, i would have been completely and fully prepared to make these decisions on my own.

at 14, you're not a kid anymore. sorry folks, you're just not a child anymore, physically or mentally. legally, yes, but thats the only way. the age of consent in Canada was 14 until 2008, and now its 16. in some places around the world its common place for young people to have sex with older people. when you hit puberty you're becoming more aware of your sexuality and you're growing up. 14 and 20 isnt a big age difference. its just not. and if it was a 20 year old guy and a 14 year old girl, my opinion would be very much the same. at 14 years old the average person is fully capable of making their own choices regarding sexual activity.

I believe you are focussing on non-issues. The age of consent is not the issue. Questioning whether teenagers are mentally or physically mature enough is not the issue.

The issue comes down to demanding that adult males be punished for having sex with female minors while asking that female adults be given leniency and understanding when they have sex with male minors.

It seems society and the LAW do not agree with you. The law is set up to go easy on women and much harsher on men when they committee the same offence. Just look and compare every example of adult on minor sex when genders are reversed.

[edit on 26/2/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Originally posted by SilentShadow


I CANNOT believe this.

If this was a man, he would have been hung, drawn and quartered. Placed on EVERY sex offender list that exists and would have had been run out of the very town he lives in.
Give her the full treatment. Just like any other [MALE] person.

au.news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Amen to that, This is disgusting. Women around the world want equal pay and equal rights...all well and good.
Give her the same treatment as any and ALL men would receive...

5 to 10 years for sex with a minor and on the list of perverts forever, with her name on the front page of every local newspaper.

This is true sample of the society in which we have to live.
Its a shame the world has no reset button.

[edit on 22/02/2010 by andy1972]

[edit on 22/02/2010 by andy1972]

As a woman I say burn her at the stake! As a woman it sickens me me that other woman get away with this, they are just as sick as men to do do such a thing and they should be treated the same.

If it was a 14 year old girl, I would be outraged.

It was a 14 year old boy, and he probably had a great time.

There is a huge difference here.

Boys need to know how sex works. Girls do not need to know until they are older, ideally (I know - the world is not an equal sex place).

The age difference was not that much, so I say good luck to both of them.

This is yet another manifestation of the zeitgeist. I'm not saying this woman should be crucified. I do not believe in merely using the tools of severity. Also, I do not know the specific details of this case.

That being said, I am calling bollocks on all the men who remark that this would have been so wonderful for them when they were 14. Yet another example of the submission of certain men to a consensus in order to fit in and appear dominant by some mere symbolic gesture. Plus, the act of object penetration is not the totality of sex. Psychic penetration and/or interweaving occurs as well. Quite ironic, I know. Yes, I am saying that quite a few, if not all men making this statement are jumping on a bandwagon for ego-gratification and peer approval.

Your average 14 year year old boy would be spellbound by this older woman, not approaching the situation confidently. He would likely be possessed by a strangely terrifying erotic pleasure that he was neither ready for nor could articulate. Moreover, the lack of balance in the relationship would leave a dangerous imprint on the boy's mind, leaving him more susceptible to manipulative, predatory women in his adult life. Needless to say, he would be damaged and have to climb quite the mountain to overcome, unless he wanted to live his entire life in a beastly denial, which quite a few men do, albeit a tormented one.

By the way, I am a man. No, I was not sexually abused, but I have dealt with what could be considered this type of woman. There are too many wonderful women out their to mix these women in with them. Not all women, by a long shot, follow "feminine virtue."

reply to post by orwellianunenlightenment


Okay,

I assumed the boy was OK about it.

If he was not, obviously it was rape.

This wouldn't have been illegal in Canada.....

CURRENT LAW

The Criminal Code does not now criminalize consensual sexual activity with or between persons 14 or over, unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency, in which case sexual activity with persons over 14 but under 18 can constitute an offence, notwithstanding their consent. Even consensual activity with those under 14 but over 12 may not be an offence if the accused is under 16 and less than two years older than the complainant. The exception, of course, is anal intercourse, to which unmarried persons under 18 cannot legally consent, although both the Ontario Court of Appeal(3) and the Quebec Court of Appeal(4) have struck down the relevant section of the Criminal Code.

www.parl.gc.ca...

reply to post by kawacat


My point also could include that the boy is under severe social pressure to be a "peacock" and say that he is OK with it. It is that cognitive dissonance that would be so damaging. Your average 14 year old is a moron. They lack the emotional/intellectual maturity to resist a predatory manipulation, even if they do consent. I also think that more women that men typically come out against this is that they have personally dealt with this type of woman. Also, many men lack the balls to suggest that they can be vulnerable. They fear (and they may be right) that they lack the will and emotional/intellectual fortitude to withstand any attacks this might bring about. Ironically, an immature male's objectification of a woman, his inability to notice some spiritual essence, is what makes him susceptible to manipulation. This is like some cosmic/evolutionary/divine separation of powers. To the extent a man objectifies, he will be subjectified and vice versa. I know this is a bit of a ramble, but I wanted to provide some context for my view.

her punishment is partially due to the way a mans mind works; while it is true that an older man would probably fantasize about being in rapture of an older woman while he young if the situation were true im sure as others have made to my attention there would be serious emotional physical and mental issues pertaining such a relationship.this is kind of like the paradox of a attractive older male raping an ugly woman and if a crime is committed by means of justification by societies acceptance of an archetype of a person "not getting any" because of their looks anyway.as sex is just but one form of magic; should both practitioners be fully aware of the sex they are imposing on the other before hand; and is it really possible to explain the sex without the act of committing the sex on the opposite gender, without the act of doing the sex.an older person would be more adept (characteristically) at sexing a younger person to the whims of the more adept person; and is the initiate a victim if they fall to the effects of being sexed.this issue could be resolved with proper knowledge by magistrates; the image of sex is never the sex being placed upon another.is it illegal for an adept to sex an initiate; and are women respected as adepts at sexing to the point where magistrates need to be aware of the dangers lurking behind improper use of sexing on initiates within a society that allows sex in its functions.because of mans preconceived "power" within his own reality; will it ever be illegal to act upon this power in the means of which this power is maintained.at 14 i was adepts at being the recepient of sex and not adept at sexing another woman;this skill did not form in me in my early years of being initiated in being sexed.now that i am adept at sexing; would it be illegal to in turn sex someone who is not adepts at sexing me but is adepts at being sexed?

Originally posted by SilentShadow


I CANNOT believe this.

If this was a man, he would have been hung, drawn and quartered. Placed on EVERY sex offender list that exists and would have had been run out of the very town he lives in.

THANK YOU! The double standards of sexual offence in cases like these never cease to amaze me, I'm glad you can see the reality of the situation.

Silly laws you have.

Yes, we have the age of consent 16, but "if they are both at a similar stage of development and doing it at free will, this law is not enforced"

My first GF was 14 when we met, i was 17. My birthday is 10 days before her's. So i was a pedophile for 10 days after i had turned 18 but she was still 15? Use some common sense while interpreting (and while writing the law in the first place).

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reply to post by SilentShadow


I cannot understand this judgement. Seems to me that in order for the law to work correctly , everyone who commits such an act, ought to be punished with equal severity regardless of mitigating circumstance of imbalance of mind. There is just no teaching judges these days. You cannot deter a person from commiting a crime, if people are going to get let off with what amounts to a blasted warning. Bloody useless in my opinion.

Originally posted by calstorm
As a woman I say burn her at the stake! As a woman it sickens me me that other woman get away with this, they are just as sick as men to do do such a thing and they should be treated the same.

I don't think this is really about vengeance or wanting to see this woman suffer under the full penalty of the law. People just want fairness and consistency when these kinds of cases are dealt with. It is ridiculous that the consequences of a crime are influenced by the gender of the perpetrator or victim. How can there be such a contrast in punishment simply because the gender roles have been reversed?

[edit on 26/2/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Originally posted by kawacat
If it was a 14 year old girl, I would be outraged.

It was a 14 year old boy, and he probably had a great time.

There is a huge difference here.

Boys need to know how sex works. Girls do not need to know until they are older, ideally (I know - the world is not an equal sex place).

The age difference was not that much, so I say good luck to both of them.

So are you saying that a 14 year old boy can enjoy and initiate sex, but a 14 year old girl can't? I would say that as girls mature faster than boys, generally, it would be the other way around and that girls are far more sexually aware at this age than immature boys.

Morality aside, it was illegal and she should have recieved the exact same sentence a man would have.

reply to post by Ausar


+1

Well said!

The boy had a great time, the woman probably had a pathetic time - end of story.

This is no big deal - just that boy had a nice time amen.

Originally posted by kawacat
reply to post by orwellianunenlightenment

 

Okay,

I assumed the boy was OK about it.

If he was not, obviously it was rape.

Regardless of wether or not the boy was 'OK' about it, the law defines this as Statutory Rape!

To complicate the matter.

First of all because we were not present at the act of intercourse or the circumstances that lead up to it and were not involved directly in the case it is my humble opinion that a general approach to this subject is prudent.

This is not an order just my outspoken preference.

The complication.

In my opinion the Law can only do so much in trying to discern right or wrong. The law is their trying to regulate such things for the sake of society.. Their can be no final judgement. The law is just as biased as anyone I know.

I myself find age not to be the real neck breaker.

I believe that a psyche evaluation of both the `victim` and the `culprit` is the best way of knowing how immoral it really was. Including the backgrounds of each person. I do not know how this case came to light, but if family were involved in bringing it into public view their ar alot more factors that can be taken into consideration. Of course the Law in the letter does not take notice of these things.

The Law is static not dynamic and I find this quite the dynamic subject because it envelops so much.

Furthermore I believe that the manner in which boys and girls are raised in current society is of great influence on how male and female react to sexually charged situations. I find it plausible that a lot of trauma be avoided if people would be proudly sexually active without dogma. BUT that is just me. Sexual passion goes beyond morals not beyond consequence.

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks


...you know tasmanian law, huh?... cool... please, state the laws that (1) dictate age of majority and (2) what constitutes statutory rape... thx...

If it weren't illegal, then charges wouldn't have been brought against her. Simple as that. It was illegal, and she should be doing jail time.

Originally posted by kawacat
If it was a 14 year old girl, I would be outraged.

It was a 14 year old boy, and he probably had a great time.

There is a huge difference here.

What exactly is the huge difference? That men should be held accountable for their actions but women need not worry? That women should be given the benefit of the doubt in situations where they stand to lose, just because of their gender?

Boys need to know how sex works. Girls do not need to know until they are older, ideally (I know - the world is not an equal sex place).

Funny how the male victim's development becomes of such concern as opposed to the female aggressor's breaking of the law. You stated earlier that you "would be outraged" if the victim were female. Can you please explain why?