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Nostradamus and "Mabus" - a thought...

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posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 06:40 PM
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i found information about a previous governer from mississippi and ambassator to saudi arabia whos name was mabus, its highly unlikely that he is the mabus that nostradomus speaks of but i thought it would have been a good find if i found it 10 years ago......

Ray Mabus (born 1948) served as governor of Mississippi from 1988 to 1992 as a Democrat, but was defeated for reelection by Republican Kirk Fordice. Previously, he was elected state auditor and served from 1984 to 1988. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton to be the United States ambassador to Saudi Arabia and served from 1994 to 1996....



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 06:46 PM
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and this could it be this guy

www.fortunecity.com...



posted on Aug, 25 2004 @ 08:47 AM
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Ok,back to my theory on the original mis-spellings.
The Mabus.means nothing.Take the capital M and work from there...

So far...Motus? As in motion?Modis operandi? Taking away my license? Which is supposed to isolate, inconvenience, destroy your vocation and your life? Also your sole ID.

[edit on 25-8-2004 by stgeorge]



posted on Aug, 25 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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I wonder...the mark. Without the 'code" you cannot buy or sell says Biblical prophesy. Meaning a financial insttution will not recognize you? I think so.
Now try walking to anothr town.You are not allowed to walk along highways,certainly not hitchhike. You would be stopped,looked over.No ID, no license,why?What have you done? Never could afford a car? No excuse,a bum,ect.
Not me so far.



posted on Aug, 25 2004 @ 11:25 AM
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I would assume the next anti-christ would have to be in charge of a large military so I can't personally see any of these rag-tag terrorists as fitting the bill. Once the oil is all gone or an alternative fuel is used in mass production these oil kingdoms will be forgotten about anyway. What are they going to sell.....sand castles?

I have no clue who the next anti-christ may be or if there will even be a next one......all I know is these primative guerilla fighters are no threat to our current lifestyle. They may score a cheap shot here or there but they are in no danger of racking up the body count of the previous two anti-christs.

Maybe the next anti-christ will not be human at all but of alien origin. Maybe "mabus" will be an anagram of a nickname given to an asteroid hurtling towards our planet. Maybe an anagram of a name given to a new virus or addictive drug. Plenty of possibilities I think trying to pick one prominent person may be going in the wrong direction on this one.



posted on Aug, 25 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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You are trying to use anagrams for Nostradamus' French words?
Try the French/English dictionary...King of Terror. Terra =Earth
The French word for earth is terrier. Close enough.
The Antechrist will command a vast army? As in Jesus could have summoned 10,000 Angels? That is NOT a physical army. In fact after him, Le Terrible! The Mediteranean opened up.Stricken from history,although the salt and ruins are still there,buried.



posted on Oct, 28 2004 @ 03:29 PM
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According to British Intelligence sources, he believes that he is the new 'godfather of terror'.



He claims al-Qaeda chief Bin Laden is �in hiding� and even that he is �frightened� of Allied forces.

A British defence source told The Sun: �Zarqawi now boasts he�s in charge ...

Now he is spreading the message that HE is in charge after dismissing Bin Laden � the world�s most wanted terrorist.


Fiend: I'm new Bin Laden

I really wonder what he was doing in 1999 though ... When I read the above article, Nostradamus' 'Great King of Terror' quatrain went through my head.

L�an mil neuf cent nonante neuf sept mois,
Du ciel viendra un grand Roi d�effreyeur:
Ressuchiter le grand Roi d�Angelmois,
Avant apr�s Mars regner par bonheur

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great Mongol King,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.



posted on Oct, 28 2004 @ 03:39 PM
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This points to an interesting candidate: Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.


Might be on to something there....as he was released from prison in Jordan in 1999...who knows?

[edit on 28-10-2004 by Gazrok]



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 07:05 AM
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PLO elects Abbas as Arafat successor

The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) moved swiftly on Thursday to establish a collective leadership and avert a power vacuum after Yasser Arafat's death. But the distribution of responsibilities among veteran leaders without clear power bases of their own has added to concern about potential internicine power struggles. Former prime minister and veteran negotiator Mahmoud Abbas[/] was elected on Thursday to succeed Arafat as chairman of the PLO, the Palestinians' highest decision-making body.

[edit on 12-11-2004 by KAOSKTRL]



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 07:12 AM
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I noticed this too...I even mentioned it in the thread about Arafat's successor...
When I heard the name, this was the first thing I thought of.

Sound out his name, in a chant, in your head...you'll realize that the rest of his first name, would easily be drowned out with only the M and the Abbas being easily heard. If you believe, as I do, that Nostrodamus saw and heard his visions, almost like a TV, then it gets pretty creepy....

Perhaps the third antichrist has just stepped up on the stage...???



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Otts

Originally posted by omega1


In Nostradamus, what happens is a 27-year war, starting in 1999 and going until 2026, resulting in the destruction of many large cities and the death of millions... except that afterwards things get better, with the return of either Christ or a monarchic figure to usher the world into a new age of peace.

Trouble is - and it has been pointed out in this thread - that for various reasons the prophecies are written in riddles or anagrams, and lend themselves to interpretation too much. Plus, the only one which actually had a date in it - 1999 - turned out to be a dud.

Smudge - You probably ended up on the "Mabus Centre" or "Mabus Watch", which has even the Pope and Prince William as Mabus.


Paragraph #1: Sounds very FAMILIAR to the time-traveler TITORs claim of a civil war in USA...but beginning in 2005...(?allowance for the purpose of creativity, & distancing from the Nostrodamus, source???)

Paragraph #2: would you even consider that Nostradamus was actually being philosophical about the 3rd (false)-Christ??

consider MA B US
MA=use a long 'A', sounding as our word MAY
B= sounding as our word BE, BEE
US= sounding as our word US

there you have it!!!.....MAY BE US !!!

mankind?
capitalists?
communists?
all those putting man-before-God??

OH Yeah, otts...could you clear up the [prophecy] vs [prognosticator]
issue here, concerning Nostradamus...the seer...??

Ole Mike Nostradamus, putting the 'befuddle' on those who are conspiratorialists? is that a bushism too?

[edit on 12-11-2004 by St Udio]



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 08:36 AM
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The antichrist was first mentioned in the bible. etext.lib.virginia.edu...



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 01:11 PM
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its been my understanding we get a few years of total peace and goodtimes out of the antichrist before he turns things sour.



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 05:54 PM
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U.S. Senator Barack Obama



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 08:42 PM
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St Udio - the only problem with "May be Us" is... Nostradamus was writing in French. And Renaissance French at that.



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 10:58 PM
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Yeah yeah, all that apocolypse stuff, really goes throughout history. Every generation is so vain it thinks "we must be the one," and someone somewhere is laughing all the way to the bank. Someone somewhere is thinking "what a bunch of suckers, they expect it, now we sell tons of ammo, bombs, guns, and all those people think it's armageddon." Yeah yeah getting richer and richer while you dummies destroy yourselves! Ooopps, one of my competitors went down, better fill out the quit claim deed. Remember how the American Indians used to call it "that yellow metal that makes the white men crazy?" And we thought we were so superior, I have never before seen such wisdom and insight. Well you guessed it, the same goes with the Mabus myth, and all those other hysterics the top of the heap uses to exploit the actual primatives. Get a life folks!




[edit on 6-1-2005 by SkipShipman]



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Paul_Richard
If Hussein�s military machine wasn�t significantly weakened by the US-led coalition in 1992 (after he invaded Kuwait), he would have proceeded on to taking over Saudi Arabia and then eventually fulfilled Nostradamus' prophecy with a full-scale invasion of Europe.


Not exactly. First of all, Saddam was never really Russia's man. He played both sides against the middle during the cold war and invaded Iran as the USA's side of an 8 year "proxy war" between US and the Russians.

Not only that, but Saddam barely got out of Iran with his hide intact. It would have taken a decades worth of time and a centuries worth of budget for 1990s Iraq to prepare for a war on NATO. Even if Iraq had not been dealt with in 1992, it would have taken them at least till 1995 to prepare for war with Turkey alone, and thats if Turkey and NATO did nothing to respond to his preparations.



posted on Jan, 26 2008 @ 08:42 AM
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I'm not a scholar, nor do I know inside out the prophecies of Nostradamus. But when I saw this Mabus whatever, I started to think.

Mabus. M'abus. M'abus in french literally translates to Me Abuse. Self harm? We all realise that we are harming ourselves by damaging the planet, and wars. So we start to recycle, etc. But maybe Nature thinks "Well, F*** this, you've had your chance...." So, nature takes its own course. It starts abusing us back. Tsunami's, earthquakes, forest fires, disease, you name it.

I don't believe that Michel was talking about the Third Antichrist in the Mabus quatrains. I believe he was referring to what we are doing to our planet, and the consequences we have to face.



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by Darth_Revan
its been my understanding we get a few years of total peace and goodtimes out of the antichrist before he turns things sour.


hehe I know your screen name from star wars galaxies?

bloodfin server?

Hmm I bet this is you



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 09:00 AM
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Wake up, MABUS, is OBAMA! The war has already started, he will just finish it!



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