The TRUE evil of the Gay Agenda

Originally posted by Acidtastic

Originally posted by Bombeni

Originally posted by Acidtastic

Originally posted by Bombeni


When the adulteress was brought to Jesus, He did say let him without sin cast the first stone. Then he told the sinner to go and sin no more.

Sad thing is, that little moral goes right over your head, doesn't it. Think about what Jesus could have been implying, in a broader sense. Then look back at your posts and see how many stones you've thrown in judgment.

In the Bible scene, you'll recall that everyone walked away without throwing stones. There was no one without sin. You just take the Bible thing too far. As Christians we recognize what is sin and what is not, true. But you see we aren't lobbying for sin to be made acceptable and righteous, even fashionable for that matter. There is no way you can put one of your hotheaded little kneejerk propagandist BS lines on that. But you can TRY. And I have every confidence you will.

Next.

That's cool, so follow your own rules, and live by them. Do not use your beliefs to judge others, do not use your belief to tell someone that they are living in sin, do not use your beliefs to hide your own hatred. The whole gay rights thing has nothing to do with you, as you are not gay. It doesn't have any impact on your life, so just ignore it. Why run around getting all biblical at people, becasue they are different? It is using the bible, the supposed word of God, to propegate your own hatred. And it doesn't even effect you one little bit. How do you think your vengeful God will view that?

if you knew, how much pain and suffering that your way of thinking has caused, if you knew how many kids kill themselves, because they've been phsycologically tortured by views like that. So much so that they can't bare it any longer, made to hate themselves so much that they can't even look in the mirror. All because of nasty, horrid, twisted views from people who are supposed to follow the word of a man who said "love thy neighbour" From the very people who should know better.

And people have the flat our gaul, to say that it's what God wants. Well I'm sorry, but I find that utterly repugnent.

Hatred? That's all you've got? That same tired old line that if we aren't like you, we hate you. I'm sorry for you, to be so wrapped up in false propaganda that you don't know which end is up. I didn't bring the Bible up. It was someone here that tried to use the Bible against me and I won't have that. Kneejerk, unrealistic crap. I made my points clear and with professionalism. But now I'm responsible for countless kids dying.

And you expect to make headway like that. The thread title became self-prophetic with your raging nonsensical jibber jabber.

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

 

Well there are lots of anomolies in evolution, but if I understand evolution correctly it rewards good anomolies by passing on those good anomolies through reproduction. Where am I wrong?

Also, you are jut making stuff up when you say homosexuality is triggered by over population. What do you think, that your DNA reads the newspaper and believes we are over populated? If what you say is even remotely true, then you would expect that no rural people would ever be gay because their body would not perceive over populaton in a rural, low population setting. I thnk your theory was disproven by Gomer Pyle on the Andy Griffith Show.

I never said it "was" I said it could be. That's the tricky part, we don't know. The only closely related study is that a biological change happens in rats when overpopulation occurs. That HAS been studied. Does it mean that is what happens in humans? I don't know.

If DNA is perfect, and rewards only good outcomes, then all disease should not exist, occording to your BLARING over simplistic argument. It's comical you said that when I think about it.

AS if anomalous biological and developmental traits don't exist. It's absurd.

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

 

So you are saying that every teenager that had sex wth an adult didn't do it willingly and that every animal that has sex with a human doesn't find pleasure in it?

*face palm inducing moment*

Stop putting words into peoples mouths. He/she, didn't say that.

I'm turning this PC of and going to do something cheery, can't be doing with depressing thoughts from homophobes running round my head all night. Not good for a nights sleep, y'know.

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

 

So you are saying that every teenager that had sex wth an adult didn't do it willingly and that every animal that has sex with a human doesn't find pleasure in it?

I can't even respond correctly because you're going in circles now with strawmen...

reply to post by Bombeni


lol, quoting a book of fairy tales and it's ME who's ranting jibber jabber, that's rich

nighty night sweet pies. *flutters eyelashes*

edit, but thanks for making me go to bed with a massive grin on my face. Oh the hypocrasy!!

[edit on 25/2/2010 by Acidtastic]

reply to post by Acidtastic

If nature hated gays so much, then gayness would be erradicatd. That's evolution at work (and evolution can be entwined with intelligent design btw) Yet it keep popping up, absolutly everywhere, all the time. So is nature (ie-God) wrong? Are you saying thyat God is wrong to make people who are gay, and want to fully emberse the gay life style?

Very perceptive. See if you start out at the point that thinking people are gay from conception then you must say gayness is dna related and therefore would be eradicated over time through evolution.

However, if you find that gayness is just a chemical imbalance, such as depression, then it may not be weeded out by evolution, because it randomly happens based on say hormone exposure in the womb.

There has been research into animals where they can make sure none of the offspring are gay just by giving hormonal supplements to the mother during pregnancy. This would leave you to believe that these animals were not designed to be gay but rather victims of their own mothers hormonal imbalance.

[edit on 25-2-2010 by Mr Sunchine]

Originally posted by Acidtastic
reply to post by Bombeni

 

lol, quoting a book of fairy tales and it's ME who's ranting jibber jabber, that's rich

nighty night sweet pies. *flutters eyelashes*

Yeah I'm outta here too, these guys just got too ridiculous for words. WOW

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

 

So you are saying that every teenager that had sex wth an adult didn't do it willingly and that every animal that has sex with a human doesn't find pleasure in it?

I can't even respond correctly because you're going in circles now with strawmen...

You cannot respond to that correctly because it destroys your strawman.

Whenever I read threads like this, where religious views are used to condemn certain people or behavior, I feel so.....

well, its really indescribable.

I thought that Christians were to be sharing the love of their God with the world. Has does holding up signs that read "Turn or Burn" share that love?

How does rhetoric such as "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" share that love?

When I read the Bible I noticed just how many "undesirables" Jesus associated with.

Taxmen.
Prostitutes.
Lepers.

Yet, didn't he show contempt towards the religious leaders and zealots? Those who were so preoccupied with making sure no one broke any "laws" that they completely missed how hypocritical they'd become?

I wonder.....

if Jesus was here today

who would he associate with?

Perhaps those people so disdained by the established religion.....

i.e. homosexuals

Very perceptive. See if you start out at the point that thinking people are gay from conception then you must say gayness is dna related and therefore would be eradicated over time through evolution.

reply to post by Mr Sunchine


What if gayness is caused by a gene that mutates spontaneously due to some unknown cause in the enviroment?

Originally posted by Bombeni
The pathetic desperation here is really childish, and a waste of time.
To suggest that I or ANYONE would actually consider every person who puts a shout out to homosexuals is homosexual themself, is moronic to put it mildly. But that's what people do when they are desperate and don't have a firm foundation. Take a deep breath now.

You know, YOU control what you type, when you type it. I would wager that what appeared initially was exactly how you saw it, but then you decided to go back and subjectively edit in a disclaimer - and incidentally I was not the only person who read it that way.

But even if thats not the case, the fact that posts can cross, and you could have been typing in your edit while I was typing my reply to your first ill conceived post appears to have passed you by. I suggest you proof read before you hit submit? After all, it would be "moronic" not to, would it not?

So, I judged your first post, because you wrote it. In this case I'll have to take your word that your edit is what you actually meant.

And I did edit my previous post to say OR proponents of homosexuality. But would it really be that horrible to be inadvertently misidentified as a homosexual?

You did indeed edit your post. And no, it would not be.

Originally posted by smyleegrl

Very perceptive. See if you start out at the point that thinking people are gay from conception then you must say gayness is dna related and therefore would be eradicated over time through evolution.

reply to post by Mr Sunchine

 

What if gayness is caused by a gene that mutates spontaneously due to some unknown cause in the enviroment?

That is a bit of a what if, but if that were true then wouldn't that mean homosexuality is just a birth defect like Down's Syndrome and that we have a responsibility to work to find a solution to repair the gene before it affects the child at birth?

ive always wondered on people who are antigay or so against it

what they would do if their children came out to them, what would they do? shun their kids? or embrace and love them for WHO they are not WHAT they are

any takers ? on how you would feel, wether with a child or eventually having children

and be honest

That is a bit of a what if, but if that were true then wouldn't that mean homosexuality is just a birth defect like Down's Syndrome and that we have a responsibility to work to find a solution to repair the gene before it affects the child at birth?

reply to post by Mr Sunchine


Agreed, it is a big stretch.

But I'm not sure I agree with the responsibility to repair genes, either. Nothing personal, please understand.

Who decides what genes are defective? How is that decided? It's easy to agree that we would want to fix physical deformities that hinder movement, etc....but selecting a gene for behavior? Not sure I wanna tackle that debate. It's almost nap time.

Neverthless, interesting to read your arguments.

ive always wondered on people who are antigay or so against it

what they would do if their children came out to them, what would they do? shun their kids? or embrace and love them for WHO they are not WHAT they are

reply to post by MurderCityDevil


I'm not antigay, but I'll answer anyway.

I would find it difficult to handle at first, I think. Especially since it would greatly decrease the likelihood I'd ever be a grandmother. I'm sure I'd feel confused, uneasy, and what have you.

But I love my son. I want him to be happy. It might take some time, but I would accept his decision and welcome his partner into my family.

At least that's what I hope I'd do....these 'what-if' scenarios are always just a best guess.

reply to post by smyleegrl

Who decides what genes are defective? How is that decided? It's easy to agree that we would want to fix physical deformities that hinder movement, etc....but selecting a gene for behavior? Not sure I wanna tackle that debate. It's almost nap time.

Good point. I have always thought that you would repair whatever genes affected someones life that affected their life to make their life outside of expected human functionality. So something that majorly effects their mobility or their ability to process stimuli would be covered. But really I guess that is subjective in a way. But if you could tie it to a defective gene then I would say you would want to repair it. I guess it would be up to the parents of the child ultimately. Like I love Down Syndrome kids so I might not chooose to fix that, but then again maybe that would be selfish of me because I may ruin the childs quality of life.

Anywho, it was good discussing it with you and you make good points. Enjoy your rest.

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
Very perceptive. See if you start out at the point that thinking people are gay from conception then you must say gayness is dna related and therefore would be eradicated over time through evolution.

Not necessarily. Given completely natural selection, yes, it is possible that homosexuality would eventually become obsolete through evolutionary processes - after all, those who are homosexual (probably) don't have children, so the gene would eventually disappear from the pool.
But there are very few places on Earth that rely on entirely natural selection. The great strength of the human race is that we have evolved to control the environment rather than allowing the environment to control us. As such, we are not subject to natural selection. Rather, we decide which genes we want to have passed on.
And even if this were not the case, there is the possibility that it wouldn't disappear. As homosexuality is genetic, it can be passed on through a family tree. And it's most likely a recessive gene, as homosexuals are the exception rather than the rule. But people who carry the gene for homosexuality are not necessarily homosexual themselves. They can pass it on to later generations.

reply to post by Golden Boy


Great points. What do you have to say about the research where you can insure an animal has no gay offspring simply by giving the mother hormone supplements during pregnancy?

To me, that tends to lead to the idea that homosexuality is due to some form of chemical or hormonal imbalance and so is just the result of a problem like how kids who are born to drug addicted mothers are more likely to have issues with brain function and chemistry.

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
reply to post by Golden Boy

 

Great points. What do you have to say about the research where you can insure an animal has no gay offspring simply by giving the mother hormone supplements during pregnancy?

Hormones in the mother's system affect fetal development. News at eleven.

No, seriously, I knew about it already. What's your point? In the end, DNA is chemicals.

ETA: Also, not trying to sound nasty here with the "news at 11" bit. My nickname is "Anchorman". Apparently I sound like a newscaster.

To me, that tends to lead to the idea that homosexuality is due to some form of chemical or hormonal imbalance and so is just the result of a problem like how kids who are born to drug addicted mothers are more likely to have issues with brain function and chemistry.

It's possible. It's also possible that both have to be present - that they have to have both the genetic predisposition and the hormonal imbalance. It's also possible that some homosexuals are the product of this imbalance while others are not. Whatever the case, it comes down to biology.

[edit on 2/25/2010 by Golden Boy]

Enough of your hate...
If this is all you can bring with you then you don't really belong here as you have repeatedly shown that you are not here to discuss, theorise & learn. You only want to spread your cancerous message of hate and intollerance.
Even when you have absolutely nothing new to say... you then post a thread pimping your earlier threads... lol.
At a guess I'd say you are actually gay yourself, but that you refuse to accept it... probably due to an over masculine father figure you need to please. Get some therapy and embrace your gayness, or take your missplaced message of hate and leave here. Either way...enough is enough...