Women In Politics - What's The Deal?

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Let me preface this thread with this disclaimer
~Understand I’m a God Lovin’ Gun Totin’ Red Blooded American Cajun Redneck Lover Of Justice Over Children Hatin’ Terrorists~

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I got to thinking about something that could be the greatest modern conspiracy against women in history. Some of the inspiration came from Here and Here and Here.

For being a long-standing world leader—historically ahead of the curve, innovative, powerful—the United States has certainly fallen way behind on the road to gender equality in its government. As we’re ranked 84th in the world for the number of women in our national legislature, I would say we’ve fallen off the equality cart and can barely even see the dust that we’re being left in.

womenandpolitics.org...

Where is the female leadership in Government? I’m talking America here, the world has come a long way in this regard.

TPTB have kept capable candidates out of the mix…they must have, based on what we currently have. Let’s take a look at the current group-

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Hillary will never get past the fact she should have left that dude in office right then and there. And she’s still scratching her head over that last election

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Moving on-

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Honestly, this woman appears drunk or let’s just say “medicated”, at all times…
How did she get to where she is?

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What about the other side? No, she won't go away nicely.

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Seriously folks. She quit the Gov. job to go on tour, get a tv show, and sell books…..and she’s still the Right’s savior.



Women, where is your leadership? Am I missing someone? Pissed off yet? Am I off sides here?

I sorta liked what D. Medina had to say, but she has no money. No way to win.



Female ATS’ers please respond with names or links to any up-and-comers that are electable and can make a difference.


Maybe I’ll be forced to lean this way, at least it will satisfy my ideals somewhat (guns and huntin’)---

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www.facebook.com...

They might not win but they could turn it into one Helluva Faux reality show

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But that’s exactly who they want me to like, right? Looks cute in jogging gear.

Where are all the good women at?

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I'm all for women's rights but you hit the nail on the head... I'm not saying any of the men in government are competent in any way shape or form. However progress for the sake of progress is foolish and a way to doom ourselves even more... if a 16 year old has an idea to fix the country then I would support that 16 year old, people that make big deals out of female, gay, any ethnicity but white, ETC. not representing enough office holder's in our country really need to take a deep breath and think about whether they would really want that person voting for them in the congress, house, what have you.

A woman president Im all for it but an idiot for a president is not something I support and we currently have zero non idiot female candidates that pose a serious attempt... it is sad but thats life

Other countries seemed to get it down straight. Margaret Thatcher springs to mind. Maybe it's that many folks in the US are highly misogynistic?

Maybe most women just have more sense than to go into politics in the first place.

I know I'd never bother since I'd be judged like these women have been.

I would be interested in seeing a comparison between women in politics (at the Rice/Clinton/Pelosi) level and women in business (at the CFO/COO/CEO) levels and above... and what those comparison studies reveal... There may be an answer to the question, there...

ETA:
I don't think Palin is on that level... Condoleeza Rice may have been a better representative, no?







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Ah-hah LS I think you're on to something there...They're CEOs and the like making major $$ ?

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Here's a pretty good list of very sucessful women:

Profiles of leading female CEOs and business executives

Women seem to be very successful in business, thats just it all the good people are creating value and jobs whilst the scum seem to enjoy just taking money to legislate and regulate jobs away... Interesting topic OP

Going to link in this generational report on women in politics (canadian based.)
The points to highlight:

The existing stereotypical narrative conventions treat
political women and men very differently. Both the
narrative focuses and the evaluative criteria for the two
genders are at variance. Four narrative focuses are applied
only to women. These focuses:

* tend to ignore the substance of a female
incumbent's speeches in favour of her personal
characteristics (looks, dress, hair);

* fail to give recognition for prior political
activities, with the result that no one knows
the stages in a woman's political career, which
together signify her "competence";

* make women politicians responsible for women _as
a class_ when gender is known to be only one of
many factors in interest-group formation; and

* use "feminism" to denote a negative personal
characteristic, and thus erase the group
dimensions of this diversified social movement.

*The evaluative criteria are also at variance for women
and men:

* Women have to live up to a considerably higher
standard of excellence than do men.

* The political performance of women is judged
only by the extremes of the scale (good and
bad), while men are evaluated across the whole
scale, including the mediocre middle range.

* Women politicians have to live up to a moral
code of sexual abstention not imposed on men. (1)

And to counter the derogatory depiction of women in politics, based on image alone... Here's another side of those we love or love to hate...

I won't tell you how many pages of *crap* I had to flip through, in order to find pictures of these women appearing as professionals. What does that say?

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Originally posted by LadySkadi
I won't tell you how many pages of *crap* I had to flip through, in order to find pictures of these women appearing as professionals. What does that say?

It says they're still judged on looks. Palin is "hot" so she is the most popular.

Sad but true.

Originally posted by Signals
It says they're still judged on looks. Palin is "hot" so she is the most popular.

Sad but true.

That depends on who you talk to. To a lot of people, stupidity over rides anything physical.

Palin is popular because she's a living, breathing, walking, talking, mad-lib. She is a conservative talking point. She is a republican answer to intelligent thought and natural progression.

This might come out wrong, what im about to say, but try to think about it to see my real meaning (because i know im going to muck up the phrasing of it...)

There's a reason that a lot of women don't play football....it's geared very much to be a mans sport. It's very physical, aggressive, and fueled by testosterone....something MEN have a lot of. Yes, some women play it, but, just like basketball, it's not popular at all, because mass audiences don't watch basketball or football JUST for putting points on the board. It's about the athletic display. It's about heroes and "war" (i use that word loosely, but i use it so you know what i mean)

Politics is the same way. Yes, there are some women in politics. But for the most part, all politics boils down to is a "mine's bigger than yours" which is primarily a man's game.

There are exceptions to every rule - but stereotypes exist for a reason.

Those stereotypes are that men are egotistical, vein, and competitive.

Women just dont' give a damn.

The ones who do, are forced to compete against men, or go start their own league and complain when it's not as popular.

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Women just dont' give a damn.

Now that you mention it, none I've had cared about politics...