The Battle of L.A in 1942 was a Nazi Haunebu III UFO? New Enchanced Photos.

reply to post by Jocko Flocko


The constant use of the word "turd" gives your posts a juvenile attitude. Just saying.

Ok, they were educated turds with good technology then, but quite obviously not good enough to win the war, let alone propel "flying disks" at insane speeds and maneuver unlike anything ever seen in the history of mankind as reported by Allied and German pilots.

You don't know neither the missions, nor the goals of the people (if they were man made or man crewed) who were in those things if they are advanced aircrafts.

If you can gasp the control of a whole country, are you going to stay around to fight over a city block?

It's just a theory... Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said, you can paint turds with gold leaf all day long, but they are still a bunch of turds who lost the war due to horrible leadership.

The "turds" gave you the weapon for ending WWII, in case you don't remember.

And yes, thank you for using my own argument about Nazi leadership.

You would think a group of turds who harnessed the powers of "anti-gravity" could shoot down a few Spitfire's huh?

It's "funny" how a country that was beaten down in the first World War, in a couple of decades raised up against everyone else and after some years was beating the crap out of most world super-powers at the time.

Maybe it's not so funny to think of them as turds, because it happened once, and it can happen twice. History teaches us that.

And while you laugh, and you think it's funny that you have the right to make fun and insult (I'm not defending them) Germany or the Nazi at the time of WWII, it's that same attitude that gave them the moral strength to become the country that we sadly know about in the WWII.

People calling them names, putting them on the s***-list of history, while forgetting that if you talk to a german today, he will provably still have some direct connections to the monsters that you speak of.

It's morally accepted to make fun and talk trash about the nazi, but people do forget that it wasn't that long ago.

And again, the world powers use the most basic of the rules of illusionism. While you are looking to what the left hand is doing, you don't see what the right one is actually doing to your pocket.

The fact that the Nazi spent so many time on underground projects, and with "weird" technologies and projects, should be a reason for concern, not to mock and say "ahah, they still lost the war".

Again, if you can control a country, you're not sticking around for a city block discussion.

If they gained access to something greater, who the hell cares about WWII? Give it to the americans and the allies, let them celebrate, while the others are using the technology that they developed.

Imagine a world completely concerned about a world war, fighting around, dropping nukes and so on, and while people think that the enemy are those guys in the green uniform with a weird looking cross on the chest, maybe the real enemies are the ones that already disappeared.

There is enough proof around to show that several important members from the nazi party/government went to other countries and actually lived a good life in high-status places, even in your own country.

Is it really that hard to imagine that maybe they changed direction? That maybe now they can even control MORE than what they controlled back then?

You can't fight an enemy that doesn't exist. In WW2, the Axis forces were the personification of evil, you knew their faces, their country flag, everything. It was there.

Make them disappear, and you have nothing to attack.


In the end this is just a theory made up based on a discussion.

But I just don't like when people start making fun of the nazis or the japanese.

Change a few key decisions during WWII, and maybe we would be talking german.

You should respect your enemies.

is anyone familiar with Operation Highjump?

en.wikipedia.org...

In 1946 a naval force led by Admiral Richard Byrd, a well known american wwii hero, was blown away by misterious forces in Antartica which is believed to be a german colony (New Swabia) and had to retreat with serious loss of men and equipment. What were these misterious forces that could change the tide of war and inflicted so much damage to the allied forces? My guess a joint operation by nazis and gray aliens.

The task force of OVER 40 SHIPS, included the flagship "Mount
Olympus", the aircraft carrier "Philipine Sea", the seaplane tender
"Pine Sea", the submarine "Senate", the destroyer "Bronson", the ice
breaker "Northwind", and other tanker and supply ships. An armed
contingent of 1400 sailors, and three dog sled teams were also on
board.

The expedition was filmed by the Navy and brought to Hollywood to be made into a commercial film called "The Secret Land". It was narrated by Hollywood actor Robert Montgomery (Naval reserve Officer) .

Admiral Byrd's team of six R4-D's were fitted with the super secret
"Trimetricon" spy cameras and each plane was trailing a
magnetometer. They flew over as much of the continent as they could in the short three month "summer" period, mapping and recording
magnetic data. Magnetometers show anomalies in the Earth's
magnetism, i.e. if there is a "hollow" place under the surface ice or
ground, it will show up on the meter.

On the last of many "mapping" flights where all six planes went
out, each on certain pre-ordained paths to film and "measure" with
magnetometers, Admiral Byrd's plane returned THREE HOURS LATE.

It was stated that he had "lost an engine" and had had to throw
everything overboard except the films themselves and the results of
magnetometer readings in order to maintain altitude long enough to return to Little America. This is most certainly the time when he met with representatives of
the aryans and a contingent of nazis.

The task force came steaming back with their data which then
became classified "top secret". Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal
retired and started to "talk". He was put in Bethesda Naval Hospital
psychiatric ward where he was prevented from seeing or talking to
anyone, including his wife! after a short while he was thrown out the
window while trying to hang himself with a bedsheet. It was ruled a
suicide, case closed. He was telling people about the underground
aryan base.


Were the war hero Byrd and Forrestal lying about this? I don't think so, i think the danger existed and that nazis ufos (vril and haunebu) existed but with hitler dead there wasn't a motive for the nazis to continue the war, they just wanted to evolve away from the world. Who knows if the colony still exists and what they are capable of.

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[edit on 18-2-2010 by Picollo30]

That's what I thought at first, but why would America bomard an alien UFO? With technology like that, the most they would be doing would be pissing off some aliens. By now, if those were aliens, we would all be dead after an invasion.



I beleive the govt would attempt to shoot them down when possible. "reverse -engineering"

Probably been happening. I don't think any species would be 'allowed' to invade us.

I think we're being tricked by both sides because the masses DON'T MATTER. If your not playing the game, which is on a need to know basis, your probably never going to know, and will be left speculating.

reply to post by Tifozi


Hehe, looks like I brought out your true colors and underlying reason for wanting to hoist these turds upon some morbid pedestal, works every-time. Yes, the nazi party is and was the most disgusting crap stain in human history, one gigantic bowel movement which cost the lives of millions of people, so I'll call a turd a turd when I see one, especially when dealing with the nazi party, their beliefs and the people that want to somehow elevate these troglodytes out of their historical place in human history -the toilet bowl.

I can't, and never will, respect any group of people who caused so much hardship and damage to fellow human beings.

[edit on 18-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

Originally posted by Tifozi
The "turds" gave you the weapon for ending WWII, in case you don't remember.

So when did the nazi's give the USA the atomic bomb? What year? What location? Who built it in Germany

I think it's quite interesting to note the technological advances the world had during WWII.

reply to post by dereks


If I had gotten a cent for every time I have asked this question on ATS to somebody claiming "the Nazis had the bomb" ....

Yet I never get answers, just stupid links to neo-nazi sites.

what if they had the bomb and the saucer technology but they just hadn't the time to perfect it because the allies were about to enter Berlin? I wonder what would happen if the US didn't enter the war or what would happen if the war was extended in some more months / a year.

reply to post by TimothyMartin


I know that the Nazi were developing discoid aircraft prototypes based in alien reverse engineering or even being helped by alien intelligences, but I doubt the UFO of "California battle" was German made, since it was severely shot by massive heavy anti-aerial ammo, without any effect. I doubt the nazi had found some indestructible metal alloy, that hadn't being used nowadays... I matched the data about the "California battle" with the claims of a WWII veteran, named Tim Kano. The guy is currently an expert in military dioramas, and based one of his works in a supposedly interdimensional anomaly located in San Clemente Island. According to him, during the '40s there was a battle between Navy vessels and some kind of alien presence in the island, before it got assaulted and occupied by US military.

I think that the Battle of L.A is the most hardcore evidence yet, but yet it is never hardly mentioned anywhere publicly,
the sun newspaper recently published a column asking what do you think is the best evidence yet?, my posts have always been registered but when I mentioned the battle of L.A they refused to post that comment, it makes me wonder why they did that, but yet they posted other ufo stories that have recently occurred ie chinese lanterns etc instead, there is a coverup on this story!!!

reply to post by ucalien


G'day ucalien

I've looked at met data & topography data for San Clemente Island.

Based on that, I don't think you can exclude fog as the cause of that image obfuscation.

However I am not familiar with the appearance of fog on Google Earth.

I'll see if I can find pictures for purposes of a comparison.

Based on considerable reading & discussion here on ATS, I think the patterns on the ocean floor are imaging artifact, rather than real structures.

Here's a met chart & map that demonstrates fog occurs across that area:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0cebb539d236.jpg[/atsimg]

Satellite imagery of the SOCAL area near the time that fog/stratus is shown in the San Clemente forecast meteogram (Figure 8) is provided as verification of the COAMPS forecast. The 20/1645Z NOAA Vis image (Figure 10) shows an elongated fog/stratus patch extending southeastward from the San Clemente Island area. Fog/stratus patches are also shown off Point Conception.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1969d048b884.jpg[/atsimg]

The COAMPS 24 hour forecast sequences from basetime 20/00Z for San Clemente Island and North Island are depicted in meteogram format in Figures 8 and 9. The forecast of the return of fog/stratus and saturated MBL conditions at San Clemente (Figure 8) is shown. The fog/stratus cloud is first indicated at about 20/1700Z in the near surface humidity (top panel) and low cloud % (panel 4)for the San Clemente area. The North Island meteogram (Figure 9) does not indicate the forecast return of fog/stratus during this 24hr period. Note that at the time these meteograms were generated, neither a COAMPS internal nor post-processing fog versus low cloud algorithm was yet in use.

www.nrlmry.navy.mil...

Here is commentary confirming that "it also disappears into coastal fog banks at times":

San Clemente Island is the southernmost of the Channel Islands, and reflects a closer proximity to the weather patterns common to Baja California, its close neighbor. The most arid of the islands, it is remarkable that it does have enough rainfall to maintain year round springs. It also disappears into coastal fog banks at times, providing welcomed relief from its warm climate.

www.rain.org...

Here's a small picture I found on the SCI met site, just to show what's under that "fog":

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b383c2d6c16c.jpg[/atsimg]

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 20-2-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
I think that the Battle of L.A is the most hardcore evidence yet, but yet it is never hardly mentioned anywhere publicly,
the sun newspaper recently published a column asking what do you think is the best evidence yet?, my posts have always been registered but when I mentioned the battle of L.A they refused to post that comment, it makes me wonder why they did that, but yet they posted other ufo stories that have recently occurred ie chinese lanterns etc instead, there is a coverup on this story!!!

G'day jumpingbeanz

I used to think the "Battle of LA" was the "be all & end all" of UFO cases.

However now that I've spent a lot of time reading about & discussing it, there appear to me to be some big questions marks over it.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Yes I completely agree, seriously if something flew over like that you would be panicking every state would be, I think they know more than they are letting on here,
in the 40's who is going to built something that unique that repels bullets and zips away into the night?.

Say if it was a foreign military ship on some kind wouldn't they have destroyed the city and used their powerful ship to defeat???

I think they aren't telling us a few things

Some one said they saw a Battle of LA with a cylinder:

tech.groups.yahoo.com...

See the picture posted.
That picture should pre date the Battler of LA concoction.
Again we we what Tesla is involved in follows us like a bad Illuminati tale.

reply to post by Jocko Flocko


This is how you sound:

Hehe, looks like I brought out your true colors and underlying reason for wanting to hoist these jews upon some morbid pedestal, works every-time. Yes, the jews are and was the most disgusting crap stain in human history, one gigantic bowel movement which cost the lives of millions of people, so I'll call jew a jew when I see one, especially when dealing with jews, their beliefs and the people that want to somehow elevate these troglodytes out of their historical place in human history -the toilet bowl.

I can't, and never will, respect any group of people who caused so much hardship and damage to fellow human beings.

* Underlined words were changed by me, in order to show my point.

Read that text, and tell us the historic character that you sound like.

Hate, generates more hate.


reply to post by dereks


"Turds" = Germans.

Albert Einstein was a "turd". He did contribute to some extent on the fast development of the A-bomb.

And it was just a sideline, not a debate on it's own.

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well let me be the first one to tell you the Nazi Haunebu III has nothing on the Nazi Haunebu XVI


Drawing an exact image with clearly defined shapes and windows is like using a cloud to determine a dipole moment.

Lets consider that the nazis had wonder weapons such as this. If it did exist and we ended up with their scientists why would all of that technology vanish?

One thing left out of this discussion is not a good healthy debate about how great the nazis are but rather how the Nazis managed to solve the fuel problem and managed to have a craft that could reach the US mainland and make it out again.

Even today with their best scientists, ahem, we fail to develop better fuels for generating propulsion. Look at what we use in the rockets on the shuttle some of those thrusters are powered only by hydrogen and oxygen basically the isolated components of water.

Well I am not so sure about the Nazi UFO theory on this case. I think to this date this is one of the best documented UFO sightings. The video and pictures posted are really amazing.

A weather balloon? ..wait a second.. But yeah, seriously..

Balloon >> 1000s of artillery shells (The biggest upset of all time?!)

Battle of LA = unexplained by a mile in my book. Not one theory that even comes close to debunking this.

Real UFO with real ETs? I think that is the best theory to date.

Nazi saucers a fake.
Made up by CIA and given to people sending in FOIAR for any
papers on Nazi saucers.
They were faked out.
But they were printed up and they made a lot of money.
I even think the old Nazi saucers in Antarctica story was handed
out and used again.

www.google.com...

All done to hide the Foo and the technology of Tesla.
How old does 100 year old technology look cause thats what you
will see if we are ever told.
A motor, a battery a spinning AC generator and a coil of wire.
Wow is that all there is to a saucer.
So far so stay tuned in for further developments.

reply to post by TimothyMartin


If the Nazis had such technology available to them in 1942, don't you think they would of used it widely in the early parts of the war?

They had three fronts they were battling at the time (England, USSR and North Africa). A method such as the alleged disk would of been a great way to deliver destructive power on our bases and strongholds. It would of definitely turned the war over to the Axis favor.

What do we have now in America from any technology
that the Nazi or Axis Foo came from.
Foo photos were taken over the China sea.
Under the technology transfer during Operation Paperclip
arranged, during Bill Lyne's so called Stalemate, at the end of WWII
the technology of the Foo became the saucers over the Capital buildings.

Have we integrated the Tesla Death Ray or Force at a distance
into large triangle ships or larger.
We shut down Tesla's labs for fear Germany had his death ray
in the works besides the Foo that works on the same pulsed
DC voltage in the ether.

Some people do and way before I thought so or said so now.