Shocking: New Zealand and Australia are out of their place on the map

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I've seen some truly spectacular reality shifts sometimes when I'm not even looking for them. I saw a very old-looking "slow" sign appear in the middle of the street the day after moved into a new home. The sign was bent and rusted and appeared to be at least months and possibly years old, and the connected trash bin chained to it showed signs of the streetwork that had happened there just the day before. this was right in the middle of the street! A few hours later the bizarre thing was gone, no hole in the street or any sign it had ever existed.

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Originally posted by daisyglaze

Originally posted by Dachende
I've lived in new zealand for 30 years.

It has always been s/e of Australia. I even remember being a child @ a beach on the west coast, and my parents telling me if I had a boat I could sail to australia, that way.
i.e West.
Not east.


Nothign to see here folks, move along.

*sigh* No one is debating whether or not it was there when you were a child. We're trying to figure out why - barring faulty memory - some of us have a shared recollection of a world that apparently doesn't exist. Get it?

Look at this logically. If it is not a case of faulty memory, what could it be? Is there anything, even in the realm of extreme possibility, that may explain this?

When I started reading this thread I decided to check a map for myself. When I noticed that Australia has "moved" from way out East to under PNG I went "WTF!" I even asked some of my colleagues. Some agreed with me and some disagreed.

I have come to the following conclusion: bad education and/or incorrect reading of maps.Here's why I think this:
1. Pretty much all of the people who say NZ was on the NW seem to be from the USA, i.e. incorrectly printed textbooks and or maps distributed to USA schools and nowhere else.
2. I "remember" Australia being much further East and definitely NOT under and so close to PNG, but I still "remember" NZ being SE of Aus. I remember seeing maps where certain islands are moved to other areas in boxes for I presume space reasons.
3. I have not read the last 50 or so pages of this thread but up until page 13 not a single person has claimed that the flight from Aus to PNG took 10% of the time it used to take and not a single person claimed they used to fly East to go to Aus from NZ.
4. Initially I thought that certain people incl myself were somehow shifted to another parallel universe (bear with me ), but it is geographically impossible for NZ to be on the NW of Aus if you look at continental drift, i.e. no matter how many parallel universes there are they should still obey the natural laws.

I am very open-minded but from the evidence I have seen this thread is not an indication of parallel universe jumping as in point #4 above, but just a case of bad maps and bad education.

i absolutely cannot believe this thread keeps coming back like herpes...i am *rolling eyes* and making all kinds of exasperated noises...the reason certain people think these 2 countries are out of place is sheer ignorance! this lovely girl from U.S America will explain this better than i ever can, behold......

Originally posted by Lannock
When I started reading this thread I decided to check a map for myself. When I noticed that Australia has "moved" from way out East to under PNG I went "WTF!" I even asked some of my colleagues. Some agreed with me and some disagreed.

I have come to the following conclusion: bad education and/or incorrect reading of maps.Here's why I think this:
1. Pretty much all of the people who say NZ was on the NW seem to be from the USA, i.e. incorrectly printed textbooks and or maps distributed to USA schools and nowhere else.
2. I "remember" Australia being much further East and definitely NOT under and so close to PNG, but I still "remember" NZ being SE of Aus. I remember seeing maps where certain islands are moved to other areas in boxes for I presume space reasons.
3. I have not read the last 50 or so pages of this thread but up until page 13 not a single person has claimed that the flight from Aus to PNG took 10% of the time it used to take and not a single person claimed they used to fly East to go to Aus from NZ.
4. Initially I thought that certain people incl myself were somehow shifted to another parallel universe (bear with me

), but it is geographically impossible for NZ to be on the NW of Aus if you look at continental drift, i.e. no matter how many parallel universes there are they should still obey the natural laws.

I am very open-minded but from the evidence I have seen this thread is not an indication of parallel universe jumping as in point #4 above, but just a case of bad maps and bad education.

edit on 4-4-2011 by Lannock because: Typo and an addition to point # 4.

I am from the UK not the USA and I lived as a child in Australia. When we returned back to the UK after a year we came back by ship and sailed up the North East Coast of Australia to near the top right of Australia to where New Zealand used to be, so it has nothing to do with looking at incorrect maps.

The whole point of a parallel universe is that whilst many things remain the same others a different. As parallel universes are still considered to be a theory who can say with any certainty the rules that govern a parallel universe and what it would be like.

Originally posted by Essan
How many people from Australia or NZ have been subject to this 'shift'? How many from other countries? It seem to be only Americans (and a few Britons who oddly have not noticed other aspects of the 'shift' such as England being closer/further from France etc etc) - which I find highly suspicious.

And given no-one has any memory of different history, geology, climate or biology relation to NZ being positioned differently, it seems even more odd.

But then, I said all that months ago

What has not noticing that the UK is or is not closer to France got to do with New Zealand and Australia being out of place on the map. Perhaps in the reality we have shifted to all countries have not moved just two or three. Obviously there is the possibility of many parallel universes and some of us have moved into or come from different ones.

Uhhhh...since when has NZ been to the north-west of Australia??!?!

Originally posted by keldas
I am from the UK not the USA and I lived as a child in Australia. When we returned back to the UK after a year we came back by ship and sailed up the North East Coast of Australia to near the top right of Australia to where New Zealand used to be, so it has nothing to do with looking at incorrect maps.

The whole point of a parallel universe is that whilst many things remain the same others a different. As parallel universes are still considered to be a theory who can say with any certainty the rules that govern a parallel universe and what it would be like.

So are you saying NZ was on the North East Coast of Aus and moved South? Others are saying it was North West..

It is my opinion. I am open to anything, even parallel universes. Unfortunately there is no evidence of that yet other than the testimony of people who could very well have just read maps wrong.

Originally posted by Brad-H
Uhhhh...since when has NZ been to the north-west of Australia??!?!

If the parallel universe theory is correct, you would obviously know that NZ is South East of Aus. It wouldn't change this universe. Some here are claiming they're from a universe where NZ is NW of Aus. We are saying they are mistaken.

reply to post by Lannock


Although some remember the placement of New Zealand as being on the west side of Australia I and a few others have a memory of it being to the north east near the top of Australia.

Unfortunately not something that can be proved or disproved at the moment in this universe. Does not mean the maps are wrong or other peoples recolllections of how it is in this universe are wrong, perhaps we came from another universe where our memories hold true.

Unless you know better?

Originally posted by LannockUnfortunately there is no evidence of that yet other than the testimony of people who could very well have just read maps wrong.

Actually there is excellent evidence.
Our best mathmaticians and physicists have determine that there are an unfinite number of parallel universes coexisting with our own. The evidence is actually stronger than the theory or relativity. So the question is not "do they exist", they actually do.

reply to post by woghd


ok please share the evidence

The mind can play some funny tricks on us as we age..

Originally posted by keldas
reply to post by Lannock

 

Although some remember the placement of New Zealand as being on the west side of Australia I and a few others have a memory of it being to the north east near the top of Australia.

I will go 'out on a limb' here and say that you are the victim of bad geography and/or a bad memory.
Looking at the geological makeup of the countries involved it is obvious that this 'proposal' is impossible, but I guess that's not going to stop those who don't want to admit they are wrong.

reply to post by aorAki


Afterall the only time New Zealand goes through Australia to get to the other side is .... during a game of Rugby (either code)

I first read this thread what feels like eons ago, but now that I finally registered, I can respond and say that I was totally surprised to find out NZ is in the "wrong" place. It was always NW of Australia in my mind. I am sure it was just one of those things I didn't know I didn't know and was just never taught it properly or learned it for myself, but count me as another one who thinks it's in the wrong place.

reply to post by drunkennoodle


Just as well geographic location isn't subjected to a vote, or Aussies & Kiwi's would be swamped by idiots!!

reply to post by LastStandingMan


The only way NZ would be to the west of Australia is if you Traveled west from Australia, continued all the way around the globe is a traight line westward, crossed over Argentina and kept ging, you would end up on NZ east shore of North or South NZ.

the two other ways NZ would have appeared on the west coast of Australia is if a) you were looking at the map upside down or b) when you put the world map puzzel together as a Child, you made a mistake and forced the peices to go in the wrong place

But seriously....

back some years ago, there were a few differant variations to the world maps, one showed Australia in the lower left side of the map with north and south america basically in the middle. (for Americans who need to be the center of everything) The compass on the map would show NZ south west of America not Australia. Also the shape of Australia and Location of Australia to Indonisia and PNG was based on Ocean Navigation enitially then by Air Planes.... These maps were the norm for a long long time until Satellite images, the more advance the Satelite image, the more details we got for our maps and slight shape and sizes but not major contental Locations. Not like Australia and NZ are sneaking closer to Uroupe and America to take over the world, That's America's job.... and they're Failing

mate, really re read what you write before posting and ask yourself "Do I make sense?"

This question/Statement of yours is really rooted, no wonder peple refer to us ATS people as 'crack pots'...

Fair Dinkum

Originally posted by drunkennoodle
I first read this thread what feels like eons ago, but now that I finally registered, I can respond and say that I was totally surprised to find out NZ is in the "wrong" place. It was always NW of Australia in my mind. I am sure it was just one of those things I didn't know I didn't know and was just never taught it properly or learned it for myself, but count me as another one who thinks it's in the wrong place.

I'm from Oz and I cannot for the life of me BELIEVE what people are writing here.

NZ has NEVER been NW of Oz and never will be. Last time I came back from the States, I found Oz right "smackbang" where I left it.

It's a good thing the pilots were Aussies, as with, if the pilots had the same "geographical education" of those here who think Oz/NZ has shifted, I'd never have gotten home.

............and NZ has stayed put. Everytime they start rowing our way......we push them back.