Being a man means you are a thief

Do you know what it means to be a man? You're not suppose to be a man to anyone else but your women mates. It's disrepectful otherwise. Hear me out. First:

"Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

^You have to be mature to make that decision, do you see?

To be a man means to come before others in a put them down kind of way. "John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them." Being a man to others not your women mates is disrespect. Besides, who all wouldn't want to be as mature, fun to be kids instead of man? When was the last time you got put down? When someone puts you down in order to come before you it means you were stolen from or robbed from in that fashion.

Man is immature and a thief. That's why I'm a kid that is of an adult age. I'm cool with it. Besides, you never seen me put anyone on ATS down by way of words. Why? Because I'm no thief.

What say you? Have you put anyone down on ATS by way of words before? If so, then you're a thief Jesus was talking about. Why put yourself before others not your mates? Is it the ego in you to put someone down always? If so, then you're a man. I'm glad I'm no man.

However, if you will be a man regardless, then tell me what makes you out as a man besides being a male of course? I mean, you know what I mean here.


[edit on 13-2-2010 by Tormentations]

I have a different definition of what "being a man" means...

*Shrugs*

I like mine better...






[edit on 13-2-2010 by LadySkadi]

reply to post by LadySkadi


Well then.

Wont you care to express your definition?

Your definition of a thief is as alien to me as my definition of a thief is as alien to you.

It is ok to argue against another argument and if the argument devolves then it does not mean that there is the thievery going on but rather a loss of control?

As it happens and to answer your question I have never put anyone down in this forum and would not wish to do so not because I might be rightly slapped behind the knees by a moderator but because I am against inflicting negative energies onto another for little reason.

Stared and flagged though because what you wrote was fascinating in any case and more enjoyable than what you have posted prior (imho).



[edit on 13-2-2010 by SmokeJaguar67]

What the heck are you talking about with the not putting anyone down baloney?! You were just recently making fun of my name in a 5 year old sort of way when I was trying to save you from your delusion of the "world-wide pausing, and everyone had been sent to hell" madness that you were claiming!! Just because it took you a few minutes longer to urinate you were convinced of this occurrence. Now this nonsense. You are becoming quite mad you do know this? Please put that pathetic bible down.

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Thought that was cleared up because your screen name seemed to be a way to be putting ppl down by you.

I didnt put you down, I was stopping you from putting me down based on your screen name. But I thought you said it was a joke behind the pick of name you have there?

Defending oneself and putting someone down are two different things.

You've been following me around. Why may I ask?

[edit on 13-2-2010 by Tormentations]

Your thoughts and assumptions are deeply disturbing, and your reply makes no sense. No further will I reply to such an alarming mentality. Hopefully you pose no harm to those around you, as I fear their safety.

I can always count on ATS starting off a serious conversation then having it turn into a for sure F fest.
ATS- YourInternationalNewsAndInformationSource-WithSomeDrama.

OnTopic-
Well if I am supposed to act like a kid again, than I will probably steal a lot more than I do now. As a kid, I stole a lot, cause I was a punk. Now, I reflect before doing something stupid, then if I still feel like doing it, I will do so at my own risk, but Id rather not. I dont want digits cut off.
Plus, what person on this planet has never thought about taking something that is not theirs? Some act on it, some dont. As a kid, you just do it and if you get caught, oh well, you get your ass beat. Acting immature all of the time is only because most dont want to pay attention to the real hard times that they are facing(IMO).

-Maybe I went off topic a lil, but thats how I feel bout it.

reply to post by pplrnuts


No doubt im gonna be a man for the posters benifit and say that this situation and thread are the product of to much seclusion. There is no reason to be preaching the bible here in a nuetral forum its one thing to discuss it. If you need a freind granted im not always polite u2u me and we will talk bs till the cows come home but this is really borderline unstable and should be addressed as such.
Be Well ATSERS
and beleive in your selves not a three thousand year old fantasy.
Its like star wars being worshipped in a thousand years as a religion do.
or george lucas replacing john the baptist you see my humor i hope any who
peace freind

reply to post by Tormentations


you are confusing truth with lies because you mean the bible benefits in pretending that it is the source powers of this time

any word is true only at one sense, words together dont make one

a thief dont justify a child

thief in truth is meaning the pretense of being living conscious by standing on existance knowledge as matters of lives facts,

women can be thiefs too as conscious pretenses based on what they can stand on as existing living conditions realities to use

the concept of thief is to say, that you are stealing the lives of existance conditions that are meant of truth abstractions life

children in truth, is the honest geniun positive drive to be real living, so it is not about killing the adult that lie in meaning his life, but it is about the love the child is geniunly to anything objectively positively smart or living

another fundamental point i mean here, is to proove how men as a condition are in truth what you think women are, and women as condition are in truth what you think men are

just to proove to you how in truth there is nothing and noone else living but you as a conscious independant of your whole reality and condition seeing from the way you react and move outside alone as a real living self and inside of your conscious as yourself source alone abstract reality one

but objectively how it means that only truth life is existing

now conscious rised from the perspective of absolute objective life in freedom space and of being free position out of it

the issue was to define what conscious is then, is it necessary a true absolute living entity like absolute life freedom is a certainty being the truth

or is it free of that truth abstract realisation about absolute life freedom, so the conscious can define itself alone according to its interests in free living as long as it chooses to stay out of objective absolute life freedom reality

the difference is huge but mostly one difference, if the conscious is necessarly true abstraction living one, it means that conscious must always mean evolving in absolute abstractions realisations steps of itself as its only way constances until it reachs its absolute abstraction life reality creations constant present

and if the conscious can stay free out of absolute freedom life reality, it could then act according to any interests of using objective realities free life to please itself in staying inert in that free space as conscious of truth without being true living, so necessarly untrue living since you cant stay out without moving then you are a living but not true living and you may in a sense justify the opportunity to be an evil living then since being true living is not an obligation

women condition say the choice of always moving as true living, to evolve according to best reality perfections possible lives from what truly the conscious would perceive itself positive real with, that is why they are meant to be the positive element to truth

men condition say the choice to stay at the back taking advantage of existance freedom as conscious one out of all realities life truth means, and look for the strength of your freedom out without ever moving to any truth evolution sense, that is why it is said that men condition could at the maximum love someone positive as meaning to get from a sense of free living themselves out of all as not evil one, but never to love any general sense of reality life

and if you look closely to that drawing of conditions means in truth, it says how men are the women that stay at home cooking alone without willing to hear any sound of out betterment, and women are the men that get out and take all the risks for future being the truth always life only present

surely in animals conditions it was fiftyfifty so truth was in both means, but in humans since there is conscious with brain faculties giving rise to the awarenss of being possible reality living, they cheated up so everyone could still act as he is without knowing how it looks like in truth life

the sense is surely to say how truth life is all and noone matters

the conscious choice of its freedom out of truth life, is like admitting that it must not be evil and be living true to a certain extend according to absolute reality objective life, from any move in using absolute reality, then it must act as true living absolutely

and the conscious choice of its moves in truth life, is like admitting that it cant evolve alone in truth as it wants, and must wait to act only according to what absolute reality is alive of in truth

that is how actually i am the man and you are the chickens that stay home happy with your cheap decorations that dont mean anything and never matters

wtf?

amazing interpretation of the Bible I applaud your creativity and ingenuity. Nice to see a new anlysis now and then. Its the sign of a good work of fiction that so many people get something different from it.

Still though its been so long since a new testament came out and the worlds been waiting a while to see the most popular book sequel get a conclusion. Then we can call it the Testaments Trilogy and see a whole new wave of analysis on the completed works.

The Bible sets the bar for the fantasy genre no doubts their.

Kudos OP on your interpretation.

Cheers

reply to post by Tormentations


You're quoting scripture and attaching statements to it that don't logically follow. For example, consider this statement of yours:

To be a man means to come before others in a put them down kind of way.

Which you immediately followed by a biblical quote:

"John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them."

And then the following:

Being a man to others not your women mates is disrespect.

Do you see how these statements have no connection to each other? You're making blind assertions and then quoting random pieces of scripture in between. Even your own statements without the biblical quotes don't make much sense together. Look at your two statements above put next to each other:

To be a man means to come before others in a put them down kind of way.

Being a man to others not your women mates is disrespect.

...so are you implying that is respectful to "put down" your women?

Your entire premise is simply a string of random statements and blind assertions interspersed with random biblical quotes. I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but I don't think you are either.

It sounds to me that your view on what a "Man" is is one who goes about being rude and disrespectful to everyone and putting them down. BY putting other people down he is stealing from the put downs he should be giving to his female partner. So to be "child like" You must be nice to everyone but the woman in your your life. Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is true well...
All I can say is that I along with many others, I am sure, have quite a different opinion on what being a "man" really means.

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It's no disrespect to put down your mate in the act of mating.

Sure certain know what I mean. This is why man is a thief to others not his mate.

A woman likes her mate to be the man if you know what I mean.

A man’s definition of being a man is a simple yet lofty one despite its simplicity.

To be a man requires only one thing. You must always, without fail do precisely what you say you will.

Commit to and lay claim to doing things you can’t or won’t or failed at for some reason, and you are not a man.

Do and achieve always the bare minimum of what you verbalize to others you will do and do that with one hundred percent consistency and you are a man.

Now as far as your claim from scripture regarding putting another down or being critical of another as allegedly described by Jesus Christ, Christ himself was doing that precise same thing himself through that edict that he was chastising others for.

Yet Christ purportedly did this and meant this as a moral authority of a sort, a supreme moral authority so the premise is that in Christ’s case this was alright.

However having said that if one looks below my ATS handle below Protoplasmic Traveler is the Latin title ‘auctorictas principis’ that title is granted to Rome’s supreme moral authority.

As Rome’s supreme moral authority I do have a right as well as obligation to speak to morality. At times that is a morality that some people do not share. Often that is because moral authorities like Christ to have a very high threshold of morality they extol others to govern themselves by.

When one is confronted by morals and dogmas that they are failing either through contrived intent, lack of focus, or incompetence it may cause them pause to reflect and even a painful introspection and reflection when considering those possible and potential shortcomings and the consequences of them.

If this is part of an evolutionary process that can ultimately enhance the quality of a person’s life and the lives of those they interact with and are codependent or reliant upon them than this is entirely a good thing.

We all learn from the help of others, through their words, written and spoken and through their actions witnessed and recorded.

There is a huge difference between imparting and conveying wisdom and morality through words and actions that are constructively critical as opposed to simply making one’s self feel superior by attempting to succeed at making someone else first feel inferior simply for egos sake.

That growth and self improvement often requires various forms of anguish in and of itself is not a bad thing if it leads to a positive outcome.

As human beings all tasked with freewill and its exercise ultimately it is up to each one of us to individually decide just how much effort, when, where and how we will put into and focus on our own self improvement morally.

Gain usually involves some pain, and the reality is we all coexist as one, one people, on one planet and we are only ever as strong as the weakest amongst us.

We do all have a responsibility towards achieving the most out of our own lives and helping others do the same.

That’s not always pleasant, but neither are the not so stellar results of willfully shirking this facet of life simply based on an interpretation of what someone may or may have not said, that may or may not have been a higher being morally 2,000 years ago.

Feeling wonderful about things and having created and accomplished wonderful things are two very different things friend.

Fret not if these words cause you some angst or pause, it is perfectly alright, morality is after all the essence of what can make coexistence either very rewarding or very debilitating.

Yeaaaaaaa.......

This site is really going down hill lately huh?

Too bad...

Originally posted by Tormentations
reply to post by calstorm

 

It's no disrespect to put down your mate in the act of mating.

Sure certain know what I mean. This is why man is a thief to others not his mate.

A woman likes her mate to be the man if you know what I mean.

Put down? Yea ok.... As a woman that would get you a grab, twist and yank in highly sensitive area if you catch my drift. Bet you don't get laid very often.
I bet you think women like to get beat on too.

reply to post by calstorm



No, I mean the kind of put down that is no disrespect to the woman.

Cleared it up.

Please explain
Second line

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He's just talking about sex, Cal...









[edit on 13-2-2010 by LadySkadi]