PROOF that Building 7 was demolished with explosives!!!

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

- Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda under Adolf Hiler - 1933-45

reply to post by downisreallyup


Ah yes of course, they are referring to the uses of nano-thermite in the sense of rocket fuel as well as explosives. But umm again, you guys fail to answer one thing: WHERE IS THE KABOOM? There's suppose to be an Earth-shattering KABOOM. When something explodes, (like rocket fuel) it makes a hell of an explosion.

So now you are saying that this super-thermite does not melt, but explodes. Ok, wheres the kaboom? Wait, next you are going to say it melted the steel. But I thought the superthermite explodes? Are you guys going to jump inbetween these two different things until everyone gets tired and you can proclaim victory?

With regard to early reporting of the collapse of WTC 7 by the BBC, I am at a loss as to how this keeps coming up. Now, it could be that, on a very confusing day, the BBC got a premature report from Reuters that the building had gone down. It's collapse had been expected for hours and the firefighters pulled out.

It wasint just the BBC, and what are you talking about here? Why would anyone get a premature report of something that hasint happened, and on what scientific basis wouls reuters have based their assesment of the buildings stability?

Or, the perps, with their lives on the line, decided to give a foreign news outlet a script as to how it was going to go down. If you believe the latter, you will literally believe anything. Even if you can abandon all critical thought and suppose that happened; just a moments thought will tell you that was quite impossible. Everything that day initially depended on when the 4 flights got off the ground. No-one could say anything would happen at a precise time after that.

Its a lot more frikin believable than your thoughts anyways!

Top Emergency co-ordinator inside WTC 7 not only hears explosions, but feels them and get knocked on his arse.

Listen to the interview.





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Know this people, this is the truth of the matter, for some time there has ben a concerted effort by the government to maintain the official story.
They have people employed to push the story, belittle your quest for the truth, deny you your victories against them by bellitling the truth as you discover it.
The building seven video is definitely a pre planned demolition this video prooves it without any room for more discussion.
The only people trying now to make you doubt yourselves are those with the intentions of obfuscating the truth, an agenda counter to the truth.
i say this with all my heart, those people are not interested in the truth or being objective, please go through this thread and place all those people who are denying the obvious not through ignorance but because they are told to, on ignore.
with these people out of your hair you deny them the platform they need to maintain the divide and the Wafficial lies.
get rid of them no longer give them the time of day, they would only try to tell you your watch is wrong and they can tell by the sun its ten seconds slow.
IGNORE THEM please.

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Originally posted by conspiracy88
reply to post by GenRadek

 

What I find funny about your whole "there was no sound!" rebuttal is this: why the heck would the government (who already knew they were gonna be breaking every law of physics possible on that day) make it even more obvious by letting everyone hear the demolition go off. In this day in age, I can say with almost 100% certainty that someone out there in this great big world of ours has figured a way to do demolitions silently. Actually, wait there is a way! It's not that hard big man, just search google for silent demolitions. Going by my search, there are a number of commercial companies that already perform these operations. Seriously! What is wrong with you people! None of the 9/11 story makes any sense so why are you still defending it! This is exactly why we will always be controlled by tptb because people like you defend them when they could care less about you. Ignorance is bliss, it's been said a billion times but never gets old. Whatever. I guess we'll meet at the final battle on opposite sides. I welcome it. I'll enjoy ridding our world of ignorance. Enjoy fighting for those who want to destroy you

You are correct, there are silenced demolitions. In fact doing some research, I found that these are predominantly NON-EXPLOSIVE demolitions, by which they use hydraulic shears, or bulldozers, cables, grappeling jaws, and silenced rock breakers, to name a few of the most common "silenced" demolitions. Nope, nothing about silencing explosions though. I did come across a test of noise abatement with explosives in reference to a demolition of an Army Ammunition plant, but those were tests done in pits and holes, not on steel beams inside of crowded skyscrapers.

and now the $60,000 question: Did you see any cables attached to WTC7?

We also have Silverstein say in an interview that they decided to PULL IT.
When questioned afterwards what he meant by that it was said what he MEANT was; to pull the firemen out of the building. (the fire dept was out of that building hours prior to its collapse)



The firemen WERE out of the building hours before.
www.youtube.com...

We also have a Lieutenant say on air that the WTC 7 either has to fall on its own or BE TAKEN DOWN.
www.youtube.com...



What more do people want to hear? And the fact the OS doesn't even mention WTC7 almost speaks volumes!

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Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by downisreallyup

 

There was NO sound of demo charges going off. I dont care how many times you say, see the smoke? See the way it fell? Its a demo! No its not. There wre NO detonations heard prior to any movement.

WRONG. there was a witness, who is now dead, but there is plenty of interviews with this man. He was in World Trade 7, 23rd floor. and he heard explosions.
Now tell me he is wrong, cos he was there, you werent. This guy heard the explosions going off, he was pretty much in the explosions.

www.youtube.com...

I don't think OP, that the word "proof" means what you think it does.

On another note, I still haven't heard a single reasonable explanation about WHY they would complicate this entire operation even further, but demolishing yet another building. If the WTC and Pentagon being attacked and destroyed wasn't enough to carry the supposed agenda of an excuse to make war, I doubt one more side building would have done squat.

Originally posted by Rigel Kent
reply to post by GenRadek

 

You need to learn some basic physics my friend.
Assuming that the speed of gravity in new york is the same as everywhere else on the planet, where on earth do you get 3.9 seconds from?

WTC collapsed in freefall mode in a little over 7 seconds, its on video

You repeatedly quote NIST yet they have been proven to have fabricated evidence to fit their theories.

Stop trying to belittle Richard Gage, he is an accomplished architecht, You are not, how do I know that? I just know.

PEACE,
RK

I wonder if anyone who criticizes the NIST and everything, ever bothers to read the reports first. Like actually going to the site and downloading the report and reading it line by line, and not going to infowars or rense, or any conspiracy site.
I was referring to how NIST analyzed the video that was suggesting "free-fall" and their conclusions. I apologize if I wasnt clear enough earlier.

www.nist.gov...

In a video, it appears that WTC 7 is descending in free fall, something that would not occur in the structural collapse that you describe. How can you ignore basic laws of physics?
In the draft WTC 7 report (released Aug. 21, 2008; available at wtc.nist.gov...), NIST stated that the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions. During the public comment period on the draft report, NIST was asked to confirm this time difference and define the reasons for it in greater detail.

To further clarify the descent of the north face, NIST recorded the downward displacement of a point near the center of the roofline from first movement until the north face was no longer visible in the video. Numerical analyses were conducted to calculate the velocity and acceleration of the roofline point from the time-dependent displacement data. The instant at which vertical motion of the roofline first occurred was determined by tracking the numerical value of the brightness of a pixel (a single element in the video image) at the roofline. This pixel became brighter as the roofline began to descend because the color of the pixel started to change from that of the building façade to the lighter color of the sky.

The approach taken by NIST is summarized in Section 3.6 of the final summary report, NCSTAR 1A (released Nov. 20, 2008; available at wtc.nist.gov...) and detailed in Section 12.5.3 of NIST NCSTAR 1-9 (available at wtc.nist.gov...).

The analyses of the video (both the estimation of the instant the roofline began to descend and the calculated velocity and acceleration of a point on the roofline) revealed three distinct stages characterizing the 5.4 seconds of collapse:

Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall).
Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)
Stage 3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): decreased acceleration, again less than that of gravity
This analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below.

Originally posted by fleabit
I don't think OP, that the word "proof" means what you think it does.

On another note, I still haven't heard a single reasonable explanation about WHY they would complicate this entire operation even further, but demolishing yet another building. If the WTC and Pentagon being attacked and destroyed wasn't enough to carry the supposed agenda of an excuse to make war, I doubt one more side building would have done squat.

Now of course, this is only conjecture but it's been suggested that flight 93 (the plane that was shoot down in PA) was supposed to hit WTC 7 but.....for reasons that will never be known, they decided to shoot it down instead so.....WTC 7 now had to be destroyed. It foiled the original plan.

There's too many coincidences that can't be ignored. The fact that WTC I & II had 'power downs' weeks prior to this event is precedented in itself.
What were they doing? It's never been explained.

I personally believe WTC 7 (seeing WHO that building housed) was originally built with self-detonating ability to destroy itself in case of invasion or what have you. Just a theory but......

Believe nothing you heard afterwards. Most of the truth was being said that day, on the air if......you take a listen.

Originally posted by TwoPhish
We also have Silverstein say in an interview that they decided to PULL IT.
When questioned afterwards what he meant by that it was said what he MEANT was; to pull the firemen out of the building. (the fire dept was out of that building hours prior to its collapse)



The firemen WERE out of the building hours before.
www.youtube.com...

We also have a Lieutenant say on air that the WTC 7 either has to fall on its own or BE TAKEN DOWN.
www.youtube.com...



What more do people want to hear? And the fact the OS doesn't even mention WTC7 almost speaks volumes!

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yeah and we also have firefighters who knew that WTC7 was severely damaged and was going to fall over by itself too:



Here is LS's FULL quote:

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Now let's play the reading comprehension game! After reading the quote above, and having the commander call LS saying the fires are out of control, there is no way to save it, and Larry mentions how there has been such a bad loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is "pull it", what is he referencing to? A) Pulling the firefighter operations in and around the WTC7 to keep them from unecessary danger; or B) blowing up WTC7 somehow or "pulling it" down with cables?

Second question in the game, Who made the decision to pull? Was it: A) Larry S? B) They, as in the fire dept's commander and his officers on scene?

Third: Is the fire deptment in the controlled demolition business of high rises? A) Yes, B) No, C) Do not know.

reply to post by fleabit


The OP gave the reason why building 7 was destroyed in his original post ! Did you not read it all ? The whole operation was co-ordinated from this building aswell as housing some extremely sensitive documents pertaining to certain cases going through the judicial system concerning the Enron investigation amongst others ! Alot of prominent people would have been implicated and so it benefitted them aswell as serving as an excuse for war ! A war on TERROR, a war that can never be won ! It's genius really !

Originally posted by GenRadek
, and Larry mentions how there has been such a bad loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is "pull it", what is he referencing to? A) Pulling the firefighter operations in and around the WTC7 to keep them from unecessary danger; or B) blowing up WTC7 somehow or "pulling it" down with cables?

Fun Game , My Turn

WHat did ole Larry mean when he said to "Pull IT".

A) Pull out the Firemen , who had already abandoned the build THREE (3)

hours earlier.

B) Pull the building down (Pull = Term used to demolish a building)

911 emergancy services. . . Coincidence? Out of all the dates in the year this adds even more speculation aswell as the video. It does definitely look like a demolition job and i thought that steel would need more heat than a mere fire to fail; that of controlled explosives hmm?

Originally posted by GenRadek


Now let's play the reading comprehension game! After reading the quote above, and having the commander call LS saying the fires are out of control, there is no way to save it, and Larry mentions how there has been such a bad loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is "pull it", what is he referencing to? A) Pulling the firefighter operations in and around the WTC7 to keep them from unecessary danger; or B) blowing up WTC7 somehow or "pulling it" down with cables?

Second question in the game, Who made the decision to pull? Was it: A) Larry S? B) They, as in the fire dept's commander and his officers on scene?

Third: Is the fire deptment in the controlled demolition business of high rises? A) Yes, B) No, C) Do not know.

If people would put every other single thing pertaining to WTC7 aside which is speculation (although anyone with an ounce of common sense feels otherwise) and address what Larry Silverstein SAID...(admitted, slipped out....whatever) I think the truth will be realized.

I am starting to think, that the PTB wants (and planned) this country to be divided and still arguing about an event that took place nine years ago which, changed our world! Because if we all knew the truth, this country would be so pissed off, collectively, that we could actually overthrow this government.

It's a screwed up conundrum no matter how you slice it. It just amazes me that some people are so dedicated to this government and hoodwinked that they can't see the truth even when it's presented right in front of them.

Great video! And it seems very difficult for anyone to see it otherwise.

I'm sure most of you have already seen the video below, but that's what made me believe right away that the WTC7 collapse was planned, as BBC reported its collapse 20 mins before it really occurred.

When the WTC7 finally did collapse, the BBC reported it again, but it was such shocking news, you would never have guessed that BBC reported the same building collapse before it actually happened.

the 9-11 Debunking website shows photos of WTC7 lying in the street below, which means it didn't collapse in it own footprint. I don't think the government is stupid enough to make it fall exactly in its own footprint. That would be too obvious.

Controlled demolitions can also be controlled in a way that no one will realise the truth until years later when the majority thinks it's foolish to still question the 9-11 attacks :-)

Enjoy the video (again, if you've already seen it):



Do you see the WTC7 building behind the reporters head still standing as she speaks? It's sheer comedy, if not disturbing.


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I created a gif of this in B/W, it really shows up in it. Copy away folks. I used it as an Avatar for awhile.

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Originally posted by ProRipp
reply to post by fleabit

 

The OP gave the reason why building 7 was destroyed in his original post ! Did you not read it all ? The whole operation was co-ordinated from this building aswell as housing some extremely sensitive documents pertaining to certain cases going through the judicial system concerning the Enron investigation amongst others ! Alot of prominent people would have been implicated and so it benefitted them aswell as serving as an excuse for war ! A war on TERROR, a war that can never be won ! It's genius really !

Right, so with a building housing " sensitive documents " it was decided to blow it up. This might distribute documents and parts thereof over a wide area of the city but none of the perps had heard of a shredder.

Originally posted by MightyAl
Great video! And it seems very difficult for anyone to see it otherwise.

I'm sure most of you have already seen the video below, but that's what made me believe right away that the WTC7 collapse was planned, as BBC reported its collapse 20 mins before it really occurred.

When the WTC7 finally did collapse, the BBC reported it again, but it was such shocking news, you would never have guessed that BBC reported the same building collapse before it actually happened.

the 9-11 Debunking website shows photos of WTC7 lying in the street below, which means it didn't collapse in it own footprint. I don't think the government is stupid enough to make it fall exactly in its own footprint. That would be too obvious.

Controlled demolitions can also be controlled in a way that no one will realise the truth until years later when the majority thinks it's foolish to still question the 9-11 attacks :-)

Enjoy the video (again, if you've already seen it):

Do you see the WTC7 building behind the reporters head still standing as she speaks? It's sheer comedy, if not disturbing.


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Was Jane Stanely ever interviewed afterwards and asked about this amazing premonition she/BBC had?
I know I read somewhere that they TRIED to say there was a feed-delay and we were really watching 'live' footage 25 minutes later but that never explained the background housing WTC 7 although I think I recall 'them' saying that was 'stock' footage used as a background.

Just amazing what politicians and news media are allowed to get away with and with no consequences!