Rachel Maddow Shows Up Republican Hypocrisy For What It Is

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
Well, if that isn't one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

"Damn the country, Obama must fail"

This is butthurt to a whole new level. What is wrong with the Republicans?
The country is in need and all they can do is say no. Obama isn't a bad president, he's stuck with a timid majority and ideals of bipartisanship in the midst of an opposition driven by hate. I'd love to see anyone defend these hypocritical republicans, they probably will use ad hominems against Maddow and the MSM.

As was stated in the previous post to yours, IT'S BOTH PARTIES that pull this crap. What's sad is that you and many other liberal/democrats don't want to admit that your side does the same.

I should point out that I have moved away from the republican party myself because of this hypocrisy. But the sad truth of the matter is that both sides do it. And both sides have been shown to blatantly do it. Time to pull some heads out of the sand I think.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

No Gibbs should not have made fun of palin but with all her nattering about Obama's teleprompter (like he is the only one who has ever used one) the fact that she got caught referring to her hand notes was almost as if she was asking for it...

If she keeps it up brunettes will become the new blondes

I agree with you about how long this crap been going on...just about 20 years but this is the worst...so the ones who say it always happens are wrong...it hasn't always happened...

Plus while the Democrats have played their share...it has never been like this... this is the absolute worst I have ever seen it. AND it is the GOP who is doing it...just like it was the GOP who shut down the government under Clinton.

Claiming that they all do it is just a distraction...an evasion of the facts.

[edit on 2/11/2010 by iMacFanatic]

Originally posted by iMacFanatic
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

No Gibbs should not have made fun of palin but with all her nattering about Obama's teleprompter (like he is the only one who has ever used one) the fact that she got caught referring to her hand notes was almost as if she was asking for it...

If she keeps it up brunettes will become the new blondes

no kidding. The only reason i "like" her is because she gets under "their" skin. I don't agree with much of her apparent platform/policy.

I agree with you about how long this crap been going on...just about 20 years but this is the worst...so the ones who say it always happens are wrong...it hasn't always happened...

Political witch hunts, and hard assed politics is the norm. The publicizing of it via 24 hours news, and now the barrage of the internet, are making it something we are more aware of.

I would almost say that never in your life have you heard as many opinions daily than you hear today...but that is wrong. it is more accurate to say, "Never in your life have you heard the same opinions repeated so incessantly than today".

I bet if you turned off the news, and the blogs, and just watched 1 hour a day like your parents did, you would start to think that "politics as usual" was actually politics as usual.

Plus while the Democrats have played their share...it has never been like this... this is the absolute worst I have ever seen it. AND it is the GOP who is doing it...just like it was the GOP who shut down the government under Clinton.

It is no worse now than it was when "Sore/Loserman" were marching to the SCOTUS to get the election overturned (after several recounts).

To be honest, this is where the current awfulness started. It launched that whole "BDS" thing that has Obama still being able to blame Bush for our nations problems.

Look at it like this: If Obama can't get laws passed when he has a Supermajority in one house, and a majority in the other (along with so many liberally angled GOP's that they can sway), then possibly it is not obstructionism insomuch as it is that people are voting their consccience, or the conscience of thier constituents, who we all know wants to overturn congress this year. It is political survival.

The nation doesn't want the health care plan that is being presented. They know this. They aren't stupid. They see the poll numbers, and know their days are numbered unless they pull off a miracle.

The Brown win is a portent of rough times for the Dems. If you look at the polls, you can see that the nation is moving hard to the right. This is in response to the massive move to the left in 2008 (we can't seem to find equilibrium, can we?). If you look at the news...far right Fox news is beating the holy hell out of all other news channels. Badly. So badly i would be embarassed to work for MSNBC or CNN (i have watched both, and it is like "Amateur Hour" over there. Even the "old timers" have started to be laughable). Would you not expect that, if our officials do it the way they are supposed to, that they would be voting along a more conservative line? the nation is moving to the right. If any elected official doesn't vote the will of their constituents, then they are derelict in their duty. I would fully expect law making to be more right slanted, too. Thus, this "obstruction" seems to be a possible relation to that. If not, then it matters little. The end result appears to be along the lines of the will of the people, anyway.

Claiming that they all do it is just a distraction...an evasion of the facts.

[edit on 2/11/2010 by iMacFanatic]

evasion of what facts?

I am not a gray beard or anything. But, being 38 i have seen a few things in my life. I agree that politics seem nastier over the last 15 years. This seems to be more related to the news cycle, and illusory.

Regardless, i recall some really bad national hate for Bush. Bad enough that he is still blamed for things that go wrong even today (while Biden takes credit for Iraq).

No, I am not a Bush fan. But i think Obama is much worse.

Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by hackster

 

Sorry, it's not politics, it's treason.

To deliberately weaken one's own country is an act of treason.

The Republicans in Congress are traitors, pure and simple, selling out the country, hell, selling the country to the highest bidders, a piece at a time.

They should be stripped of their citizenship, declared personae non grata and dropped off in the least amicable hellhole available.

[edit on 11-2-2010 by apacheman]

this is what political parties will get you. it is why i am against political parties, and would love to see them abolished legally.

Loyalty to country should always come first, not loyalty to party. Anytime you have to take on a party platform, you are putting your loyalty to the party above your loyalty to the country.

Originally posted by dariousg

As was stated in the previous post to yours, IT'S BOTH PARTIES that pull this crap. What's sad is that you and many other liberal/democrats don't want to admit that your side does the same.

I should point out that I have moved away from the republican party myself because of this hypocrisy. But the sad truth of the matter is that both sides do it. And both sides have been shown to blatantly do it. Time to pull some heads out of the sand I think.

The hard part is getting people to turn off the news, and instead read the news. It is easier to remove the personal opinions in this way. You miss all the subtle communicative nuances.

If people will stop thinking along the concept of political party and party affiliation, our nation would make a huge step. But first we have to limit campaign funding so all people can participate, and we need to make it possible for smart, well established citizens (not lawyers) to be presented as a viable candidate (not with an "I" after their name, which brings giggle factor).

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

For all that are interested, I am a member of GOOOH.org. Look into it. Get Out Of Our House is not something i support totally, but i support the concept of "return government to The People."

OH thanks for posting this,

I like the way Sarah gets under their skin,

both Dems and Reps,





S's and F's on all you post,

Would I vote for her?

I don't know, part of me doesn't want to watch the abuse they will put her and her family through.

reply to post by Sean48


what i find most entertaining about this is that when you show these undeniable, unrefutable facts to "conservative" minded people (IE Palin, Limbaugh supporters)

They scream back at you, throw their arms up, and run out of the room like some 5 year old on a sugar induced temper tantrum from hell.

It just goes to prove to you that some people are just flat out too stupid to wipe their own rear ends.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Loyalty to country should always come first, not loyalty to party.

That sentiment appears to be precisely what is lacking right now. The advantage to a few splinter parties is that the Bigs have to indulge in a degree of appeasement in order to govern...which is why the best government used to be minority government. Until our Liberals caught a case of the chickenschitz from your Democratics...or vice versa. A star to the Texan, anyway.

Originally posted by pacific_waters
His "health care" policy sucks

It may, but what are alternatives? I agree that no public option thing does such, but we have GOP to thank for that and not Obama.

his take over of 2/3s of the domestic auto industry is straight up socialism.

I don't see how GM is no socialist. Have you been to a socialist automobile enterprise? I have.

This industry is a spine of American economy. If he let it fail, we'd be worse off. People who ran it into the ground were not some kind of pink commies, but capitalist pigs of first order. So it takes a lot of chutzpah to blame Barack for that.

Originally posted by Snarf

It just goes to prove to you that some people are just flat out too stupid to wipe their own rear ends.

and yet, we keep electing them. the stupid has been institutionalized in our two party system. So much so, that the average person cannot fathom it being any other way.

Buddhasystem, one thing that we can blame Obama for is the complete lack of transperancy in the way the TARP program was executed. So much so, that is seems that Geithner was allowed to grease the palms of just about every buddy he has AND the major donors in the economic sector. That'll work out well now that they can, in return, keep giving millions to have him re-elected.

They are all crooked. Defend him for what he hasn't done all you want....but there is no defense for the majority of it.

Otherwise, nice post. GM did have to be saved. They make a decent product, and the government has a lot of investment in the warranties.

In the future, however, i may look at Ford. They turned down themoney and stood on their own two legs. That says something to me.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


to me, in that instance, the real problem is, how do you mean "liberal" or "conservative"?

Me? I am a fiscal conservative, but am socially liberal. I don't want public health care (at least, not until the government can prove they can run it by fixing Medicare first), but want to see the abortion thing remain at a "status quo". I am not big on increasing prison capacity, and don't like wars, but think that when we go to war we should use massively overwhelming force.

I don't have a political affiliation. To be "liberal", means that you are both socially and fiscally liberal. I am not. I think we need to tighten the belts, and return freedom and liberty to the people.

I guess you could say i am libertarian...but believe that corporate America should have regulation and see the need for laws to guarantee such.

But, regardless, the average person is similar to me. they are an amalgamation of thoughts and beliefs. No one fits into a political party. If they do, i question their free will. So why do we have them? Why do people identify with them?

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

Buddhasystem, one thing that we can blame Obama for is the complete lack of transperancy in the way the TARP program was executed. So much so, that is seems that Geithner was allowed to grease the palms of just about every buddy he has AND the major donors in the economic sector. That'll work out well now that they can, in return, keep giving millions to have him re-elected.

Sorry, can't blame Obama for TARP. That was the last guy. The bailouts to the banks isn't much of an issue at all either, the majority of the banks have paid back all of the funds lent to them. Should Obama be lauded for the TARP repayments? No. That was the last guy as well. (well, technically congress who made it so that it wasn't a giveaway but a loan.)

See this right here is the problem with partisan politics. Right, Left, whatever. Both sides mangle and distort the truth to the point that even intelligent people like yourself have a hard time sorting out what the reality is. It's not your fault, the system is mucked up so badly that it's hard to discern fact from rumor from truth to lie.

reply to post by whatukno

the system is mucked up so badly that it's hard to discern fact from rumor from truth to lie.

Unless you own something called the internet, and know how to type in youtube or google and can research it for yourself

Who passed tarp?
Let me google that for you

Did Bush leave Obama a big deficit?
Let me google that for you


Now, whatuknow, please realize im not aiming my sarcasm at you

I'm merely saying that intelligent people know how to find the information they need to discern fact from fiction...no matter how mixed up things may become.

They don't read it on a foxnews.com or msnbc.com website & immediately take it for truth/lie

reply to post by Snarf


I didn't say impossible, I said hard. You can see how someone might get confused with all the political blathering and verbal diarrhea going on in the MSM. People sometimes will parrot their favorite talk show or anchor as if it were their own idea. It's not their fault, it's human nature.