Absolute proof: A Pentagon picture montage from start to finish

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Do you need someone to spell it out for you that you're wasting your life and your parents are ashamed of the way you turned out?

That is your response? That is really the best reply you have? Your parents must be very proud.

C'mon, GET A LIFE, people. The big bad gubbermint is not out to get you, but I have to say that if anyone needs to be subjugated and driven underground it's definitely these halfwit 911 "truthers"...

(Audience applauds loud and long)

— Doc Velocity




[edit on 2/8/2010 by Doc Velocity]

Interesting that you are STILL HERE telling me to get a life. Let's take a look at your post history for a moment...

...Hmmm it seems that if I were looking for a new life, you would be the last person to know where to find one.

Any valid response about your bogus list? No.
Any on topic response at all? No.
Are you here all the time? Yep.

If you had said nothing, I might have doubted myself. This response does wonders to show how upset people like you get when facts SLAM YOU IN THE FACE. Carry on.

Here are the ORIGINAL PENTAGON CCTV images taken on Sept 11th 2001
These images have not been modified in any way and are good for comparison to recent releases.
I still want to know what the two objects are in the sky on the top right that appear to fly towards the camera.













[edit on 8-2-2010 by AlienCrysis]

Originally posted by Alfie1

Originally posted by prof-rabbit

Originally posted by Alfie1
Here you go :-

news.bbc.co.uk...

Where is the plane ?

See the 6 pics here.
news.bbc.co.uk...

more wreckage here
www.presstv.ir...

Here

www.tehrantimes.com...

And here

www.newsgd.com...

Here

www.newsgd.com...

Here

www.apakistannews.com...

And the tail here.

social.moldova.org...


As a Ps. would someone like to tell me how to embed pics as others do please?

[edit on 8/2/2010 by prof-rabbit]

Those bits were so obviously placed there by the Iranian Government I can't imagine why you fell for it.

How do I know those few bits of junk are from a Tupolev ? What about the serial numbers ?

mods, Sorry for the short post.

You could post a taped interview of George Bush saying he did it, on this site and the same people (the double thinkers) will still disagree with you. I used to get really pissed off when others used to stick up for their governments, now I know its just fear they are living in. To agree with you would be accepting that the world they thought they knew is nothing but an illusion.

In all honesty, you have to be pretty darn scared of the world you live in to believe that 911 was carried out by a few of radical extemists.

Excellent thread very informative indeed, however, I stick with what I say, you will never convince the naysayers to accept the truth.

Originally posted by AlienCrysis
Here are the ORIGINAL PENTAGON CCTV images taken on Sept 11th 2001
These images have not been modified in any way and are good for comparison to recent releases.
I still want to know what the two objects are in the sky on the top right that appear to fly towards the camera.

I don't know, but if one of the objects was the one shown in the OP, it wouldn't surprise me:

Originally posted by Thermo Klein
PICTURE 7
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2b36a881b2a7.jpg[/atsimg]
A single piece of unburnt airplane material lying on the grass.

Looks like the direction may be about right anyway, possibly the distance but that's hard to judge with such a low frame rate. That would also explain why it's not burned.

[edit on 8-2-2010 by Arbitrageur]

reply to post by Arbitrageur

That argument actually hurts your case because they look about as credible as the tabloids that say Elvis is still alive and married a female bigfoot.

Like your OS.

I suppose you want to hear it straight from the FBI mouth, but even if you did you would just ignore it, nothing will be credible to you.

However, you bought the biggest fairytale of all, and it has ”no credible evidences” and it is all hearsay, the biggest lie of the century is the OS.

Originally posted by spikey

Care to explain then, how an aeroplane that disintegrate/vaporizes on impact, but still manages to make neat, circular holes in several of these fortified walls, finally exiting the last wall, again, leaving a neat, round hole?

Perhaps i'm missing something fundamental here, but i don't know of any physics (the physics that you and others are relying on to explain events) that can both vaporise on contact, but still make a series of circular holes, that we are meant to believe were created by the fuselage of an aeroplane.

Think about it. You can't have it both ways.

And none of those people want to explain why 5 tons of engine did not make a hole in the wall yet the aluminum body made a neat round one?

And there is one of the problems, you can debate the flight numbers, explosions, DNA or body parts till the cows come home, but if the plane's aluminum shell can make a hole then 5 tons of engine will do the same.

Missing: Two holes in the Pentagon wall, ergo something else happened to the wall.

Originally posted by impressme
the biggest lie of the century is the OS.

Wrong again - it is one of the "truther" lies - like nuclear weapons or a beam weapon or explosives were used to bring down the WTC, no 757 hit the Pentagon, Flight 93 did not crash, pod carrying aircraft, holographic aircraft, missile firing aircraft etc etc. they are all much bigger lies than anything else!

reply to post by dereks


No, your OS has been proven to be the biggest lie of the century.
It has been proven to be a fairytale just like “Jack and the Beanstalk.”

reply to post by Pilgrum


Well ok, there is conflicting reports regarding a 'possible' airspeed of the aircraft that was reported to have hit the Pentagon.

The 'official' speed according to the ACSE report, was a little over 400MPH, but let's examine your faster speed theory for a moment.

Assuming one agrees that an aeroplane did indeed hit the wall and nothing else, such as a missile or planted debris and explosives, your assertion that aeroplane was actually going faster, does nothing to help the OS.

In fact, it actually detracts from it.

Faster speed = Greater kinetic energy on impact, right?

Greater kinetic energy on impact = greater disintegration / vaporization, right?

HOW does an aeroplane, greatly vaporized on impact then go on to create neat round holes in five or six reinforced concrete walls?

It is a physical impossibility. A vaporised aeroplane cannot retain it's fuselages' circular shape and integrity enough to plough through reinforced concrete..not in this dimension anyway.

i am confused by a few things,
those being if a plane did not crash into the pentagon, where the hell did it go?
and if the government was to release phoney footage, would they not at least doctor it a little better?
lastly, why....

Hi, nice post, but old news for me.

I live in Brazil, and just about everyone of my friends are aware of the 9/11 inside job, becouse i've show them the documentaries and photos of that tragic day, becouse it justifies now the wars on Afeghanistan and Iraq by the US gov. And they (my friends) are talking to their other friends, and just passing the info on.

What i cant still figure it out, is how the american people are still "buying" this terrorist history!
How they (the american people) LET those same people drive them to War!
Its just Unbelievable.

And now, even when they are close from Martial Law...nothing!
Do they deserve the fate that is draw upon them (the americans)?

reply to post by franspeakfree


I agree with you that it is a mixture of absolute incredulity and a healthy dose of fear.

The disbelief that ANY government would do this, murdering it's own people, then using the destruction, confusion and outrage to justify a) Stealing a huge fortune in gold bullion. b) Eradicating evidence of criminality (records destroyed) c) HIGHLY profitable war and reconstruction contracts. d) Puppet governments in place in the near-East e) Afghani oil/gas pipelines can be built (highly profitable) and so on.

Look to history. This type of thing has been done many times, the world over. The UK and the US (both major players in this farce) Have both experimented on it's own people, without their knowledge, leading to many deaths of those same unwary and unfortunate people.

The information is out there to be found quite easily.

That takes care of the incredulity aspect, for if they've done it before, they can and would certainly do it again.

These 'people' who make these decisions to murder and destroy their 'own', do so while rationalising and justifying the treason as a 'necessary evil', or for 'the greater good'.

Which of course is complete garbage. Murdering innocents to facilitate an agenda never has any good attached to it.

The profit angle is self explanatory...money corrupts.

reply to post by lifeinthematrix


forgive me, americans out there, but the majority of you're nation is ignorant, otherwise there would not be the trillion dollar defecit, and bush would not have gone in for a SECOND term. slurs aside however, it is ignorance that allows people to buy into the terrorist crap, not just americans either, the UK jumped on the band wagon upon the illegal invasion of Iraq, admitedly against huge public protest. the powers at be will continue to be and the masses, no matter how much it upsets them, will follow the leader

Originally posted by spikey
confusion and outrage to justify a) Stealing a huge fortune in gold bullion.

Except the gold and silver etc under building 4 was recovered....www.rediff.com...

"All of the silver, gold, platinum, and palladium stored in its vaults at 4 World Trade Center have been successfully relocated by an Exchange-approved carrier to a newly Exchange-licensed Brink's Inc depository in Brooklyn"

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by Pilgrum

 

Faster speed = Greater kinetic energy on impact, right?

Greater kinetic energy on impact = greater disintegration / vaporization, right?

Right on both points

The greater the kinetic energy needing to be dissipated to ultimately stop the projectile (90 odd tonnes of aircraft), the more complete the destruction of both the building and the plane will be. There's a lot more involved if you want to work out exactly how much damage like area of contact, peak impulse pressure, UTS of the walls etc but that would be purely an academic exercise as we can see how the walls and aircraft performed in that event - it was very messy.

Originally posted by Kajajuam
i am confused by a few things,
those being if a plane did not crash into the pentagon, where the hell did it go?
and if the government was to release phoney footage, would they not at least doctor it a little better?
lastly, why....

That is a circular argument, first there is a need to accept the evidence that a 757 did not hit the Pentagon and also that an equally large aircraft did not disappear under ground in Shanksville.

I suppose none of the "truthers" ever thought to create an animated GIF of the clearest security camera frames...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5779ff460002.gif[/atsimg]

Well, would ya lookit that? Looks like a big silver plane coming in at ground level and hitting the Pentagon. You can even see its 45-foot-tall tail... Hm.

— Doc Velocity




[edit on 2/8/2010 by Doc Velocity]

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
I suppose none of the "truthers" ever thought to create an animated GIF of the clearest security camera frames...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5779ff460002.gif[/atsimg]

Well, would ya lookit that? Looks like a big silver plane coming in at ground level and hitting the Pentagon. You can even see its 45-foot-tall tail... Hm.

— Doc Velocity
[edit on 2/8/2010 by Doc Velocity]

You will see what you want to see, personally I see a few frames of an explosion but no plane.

But you still do not answer the question, where are the holes in the wall for the engines?

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
I suppose none of the "truthers" ever thought to create an animated GIF of the clearest security camera frames...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5779ff460002.gif[/atsimg]

Well, would ya lookit that? Looks like a big silver plane coming in at ground level and hitting the Pentagon. You can even see its 45-foot-tall tail... Hm.

— Doc Velocity




[edit on 2/8/2010 by Doc Velocity]

what's the chances of someone adding an image of a plane, in scale ( very important) so we could see how big the plane looked compared to the building to one of the images / animated images.

I'm thinking how the hell would you not see a plane hit the building if there was one.

I'd have a go myself but it's not within my capabilities