Either this is the biggest military exercise ever, or something is up.

I find it difficult to believe that all the major naval forces in the world would be dispatched to sea over a terrorist threat. International relationships are not at a lo to validate war.
And our Moderators have denied ignorance and debunked the Aussie Bastard theory, perhaps they should inform the governments of the world.
Or maybe the fishing is just very good out there

TUT

Originally posted by boaznj
Perhaps they are looking for that submarine. (I thought all they would need is a an Orion P3c submarine hunting aircraft.)

Well, we could also use S-3B Vikings, but one will never be enough, not even one P-3C Orion, unless we knew the general area where the sub was.

Any of you wondering if the TPTB think old Kim Jong-il is going to pull out the nukes and start making South Korean Kimchee or Japanese Glow in the Dark Suishi?

"Seven aircraft carriers � more than half the nation's flattops � along with several dozen escort ships and about 40,000 sailors will be at sea starting this week for the first demonstration of the Navy's emergency deployment plan.

Known as Summer Pulse 04, the exercise includes two carrier strike groups with San Diego ties: the Stennis flotilla, which deployed from North Island Naval Air Station last week on a regular deployment, and the Navy's newest carrier, the Ronald Reagan, which is heading for its new home port in San Diego...."


Huge Navy deployment to test emergency plan
www.globalsecurity.org...

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[edit on 6-6-2004 by Regenmacher]

This whole "the sky is falling" thing is getting old.

Exactly. And why do you think that is? The best way to debunk a story is to make it lose crediblility. The best way to make a story lose credibility is to have it over played by 'the labeld'. Who are the 'labeled'? The labeled are those that we analyzers usualy call "dinsinformationists', the ones who scream and holler about the sky falling and the Zeta Reticuli and never get anything right. Then once they have been debunked or their false statements and predictions fail them , they will come up with even more insanity to the point where no one listens any more. Like the boy who cried wolf. Why do you think they pounded that one into our heads when we were wee little children?

Once we indentify these 'labeled' ones perhaps we can come up with some sort of systematic removal. I don't like to name names , but I would say most of the disinformation crew are the ones screaming 'disinfo' themselves. Mark Hazelwood for example is one of these characters who is getting harder and harder to believe. His comments used to hold water. Now most of his commentary is about the disinfo crew sabotaging him and hijacking his identity and hacking into his accounts. These things may very well be true. But if they are true, do any of you want to be involved with him? All it really does is make him look like either one of the 'disino crew' himself, or that he has just gotten to the stage of paranoia that he has lost his marbles. Or at least appears that way.

You could say the same about Nacy Leider and many others out there. This is what is so important about this group ,is that we need to be open to anything and know who to filter out. The methods used here seem to be working well so far and should be kept up. Most sites of this nature I would have left by now, but here I am into my second week of membership. You all seem to be on to something.

So let's not alienate the ones who are screaming that the sky is falling. Let's analyze them and their data. Because who knows, they may be right.

I have noticed that the ones who are so popularly being ripped apart for their beliefs are the same ones screaming sabotage. They are most likely the ones behind the cloak that they themselves are talking about just to make the entire subject look crazy. They are also the ones with closed sites that offer no corresspondance or inquiry. They are also the ones with a book or video for sale.

We are here together in debate or in research. We should never call any hypethetical event or idea wrong. I quote the greatest of them all:

" When we fail to anticipate the unforseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinate possibilities, we leave ourselves vulnerable to that which can not be programmed, catagorized or easily referenced."



Nutzo

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So let's not alienate the ones who are screaming that the sky is falling. Let's analyze them and their data. Because who knows, they may be right.

No, I think you have it wrong. The people claiming that the sky is falling should do some research first, before they post. Just because somone says little gray aliens anal probed them or lizard men are controlling world banks through the Illuminati, does not mean we have to analyze what they are saying and check it out. They should produce some proof other than saying, "It's all about the impending impact.." or some such rambling. The internet is a forum for everyone, including those on a lot on serious medication. Most here are interested in what many people think is improbable but, that doesn't mean we are all stupid.

Deny ignorance is the motto isn't it?

Variable

that doesn't mean we are all stupid.

Deny ignorance is the motto isn't it?

Variable

I never said anyone was stupid. I said analyze them and their data. If they have no data, then they are probably just making things up. Ausie Bloke however did have substantial data and got the attention of numerous groups on the web. My point is that there are many doomsday theories out there that do have a legitimate leg to stand on. Most however do not. It appears to me that the only way you will accept any type of doomsday event is if you go outside and see Jesus himself floating on a cloud. To some of us, it is no more than sharing ideas, to some it is an obsession. It wouldn;t matter one way or the other who had proof and who didn't. What could we actually do if were to happen? So what you are saying is basicly that if you are going to stage a hoax, then make it as elaborate as possible. I agree with that. A good hoax is an elaborate one. But I was not talking about hoaxers. I was talking about peoples beliefs.


Nutzo

Well June 8th is almost gone and no impact yet... So innerwave and you other people who fell for this horse hockey need to fess up to being duped.


Variable

Well France for one certainly hasn't sent their capital ship to deep waters.

France�s Giant Carrier Visits Portsmouth
To Mark 100-Year Friendship



Over 1,600 French sailors will hit the streets of Portsmouth during June 7-10 when the 40,000-ton aircraft carrier FS Charles de Gaulle anchors in the Solent on a visit to mark the centenary of the special Anglo-French alliance and friendship known as the Entente Cordiale.

The Charles de Gaulle is France�s premier warship and her visit emphasises the importance with which the 100-year friendship between the two nations and the two navies is viewed by both countries.

www.royal-navy.mod.uk...


zero lift

I think there is something that's about to happen.....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It is odd so many things are occuring around the same time.

If I'm not mistaken I think the US, UK and Canada will be doing major joint Naval exercises together, I'm pretty sure I read that some where. Another possiablity would be with looming Al Queda threats and the upcoming elections youd want to have CBG's in place for rapid strikes until you could get the Army to where ever you need it.

This might be one of the reasons the Navy's fleets are out in force on the high seas.
Maybe Al-Queda has been hijacking a few freighters or plans to.

Terror threat swells at sea
'Piracy' attacks in maritime jihad increasing in numbers, violence

"Minister for Security Tony Tan said attacks on ships by sea pirates in Southeast Asia are resembling military operations � growing bolder, more violent and fuelling fears of an attack that would cripple world trade."

worldnetdaily.com...

news.com.au...

Just a thought but maybe the countries of the world are getting ready to provide protection for their athletes in august.I don't know if there has been any direct threats from the wimps who hide in caves and behind woman and children against the olympics,if there are I haven't seen any or heard any yet.Would be one heck of a target don't you think?

I have been following this one close. It is the 20th and nothing has happened yet.

Where is the "proof" that 10 carriers are at sea?

Where is the "proff" that the FED is pumping up the money supply?

I have read that 7 carriers will be deployed which seems a bit high but not a global event.


Here is my logic, if "something" big was up, not only would the carriers be heading to sea, but the Airbases would have unprecedented traffic, especially the MAC bases i.e. SAFB in Illinois (has new name I think). There would be more leaking out...........

"Either this is the biggest military exercise ever, or something is up."



President Bush: The axis of evil: Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

I would guess within 24 months after new recruits are at peak proficiency in both Special Ops and Seals we will simultaneously, to the horror of caccaphonic liberals, hit North Korea with an ultimatum and without hesitation take out Iran's nuclear wild child. Libya and Iraq have been toppled or in the process of toppling. And, Yes we will go it alone again. Tony Blair may not even come along on this one.

The cause and effect ? The US will kick ass as long as a republican is president. That will keep martyrs of all ages in front of their television watching QVC and buying television sets and MP3 players.

In the long term, America has enough lunacy built into its election system to elect a democrat occassionally. That's the green light for the mayhem. Potential martyrs can count on Kerry or whoever is the elected democrat, to wring their hands and call Goofy Anon. Issuing resolutions or an arrest warrant when boys behave badly will not cut it. Only when terrorists are conviced they will live under the threat of annhiilation do they suddenly feel that martyrdom is such a silly idea.


"A time to be born, a time to die. A time to for peace, a time for war."