ALERT! - World governments admit to having capability of making tsunamis and earthquakes!!!

World governments admit to having capability of making tsunamis and earthquakes!!!

As part of a 1977 Convention in Geneva, the following was agreed to by all signatories, including the United States:

CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES

Signed in Geneva May 18, 1977
Entered into force October 5, 1978
Ratification by U.S. President December 13, 1979
U.S. ratification deposited at New York January 17, 1980

At the bottom of a document that was originally presented by the CCD (Convention to Combat Desertification) of the U.N. General Assembly, there were some "understandings" attached, which according to the bottom footnote, were not included in the final official agreement:

“It is the understanding of the Committee that the following examples are illustrative of phenomena that could be caused by the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II of the Convention: earthquakes, tsunamis; an upset in the ecological balance of a region; changes in weather patterns (clouds, precipitation, cyclones of various types and tornadic storms); changes in climate patterns; changes in ocean currents; changes in the state of the ozone layer; and changes in the state of the ionosphere.

It is further understood that all the phenomena listed above, when produced by military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques, would result, or could reasonably be expected to result, in widespread, long-lasting or severe destruction, damage or injury. Thus, military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II, so as to cause those phenomena as a means of destruction, damage or injury to another State Party, would be prohibited.

It is recognized, moreover, that the list of examples set out above is not exhaustive. Other phenomena which could result from the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II could also be appropriately included. The absence of such phenomena from the list does not in any way imply that the undertaking contained in Article I would not be applicable to those phenomena, provided the criteria set out in that article were met.”

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So, as part of the U.N. goal of fighting against things that produce deserts (desertification), we have an agreement that not only admits to man's ability to change the environment in profound and drastic ways, but clearly prohibits militaries and governments from doing so. Of course, when has something as "useless" as an agreement ever stopped governments from doing what they really want to do?

And who are these people that posted this agreement on their website? None other than the illustrious Federation of American Scientists. If all this talk of man-made tsunamis and earthquakes was actually such "bunk" it is highly unlikely it would have been included in any official U.N. agreement (even as addendum comments), or posted on such a reputable website.

So, whether this recent event was caused by HAARP or some other secret military technology, it certainly is suspicious that Haiti has such a large oil reserve...

Huge oil reserves under Haiti...

Let us never underestimate the lengths that a thirsty oil-consuming giant will go to in order to quench its thirst...


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Please don't misrepresent what they wrote there. They do not say these weapons exist; what they say is that these are the kind of weapons that WOULD be banned under the treaty if ever developed.

This part seems to have escaped you:

"

ollowing examples are illustrative of phenomena that could be caused by the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II of the Convention:

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COULD !

and

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when produced by military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques, would result, or could reasonably be expected to result

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WHEN.... WOULD... COULD.....

deny ignorance.

We came out with the atom bomb in the 1940s?????????? Fast forward almost 70 years. It's absolutely ignorant and completely silly to think that the US government does not have the technology to alter weather patterns and cause earthquakes. This is no surprise.

Also this supports my belief that the cure for cancer was found A LONG time ago. A nontoxic, affordable cure. The reason it hasn't been available is because it would cost the US economy and the world economy HUGE losses. You thought the military industrial complex was bad the pharmaceutical/medical complex is just as bad if not worse. What the medical/pharmaceutical/science complex is trying to do and what they have been working on is "cures" for cancer that can be absorbed by the current industry without causing too much financial and economic losses. i.e. instead of finding a drug or a pathway to cure cancer from nature or vitamins, or something else........they are designing a drug that has to be made in a lab and that correlates with some fancy, ultracomplex biological/physiological pathway in the body.

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reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


Fair point. But consider the fact that this was in 1977 and how far and fast technology has moved since...

I don't think it's impossible.

reply to post by Chonx


Neither do I. But on the other hand, I have never seen compelling evidence for the existence of such technology. Until then, I will call out the misrepresenting of sources in order to support something that is not there.

Impossible it is most certainly not. I live in a world of probabilites, it's up to ATS to convince me.

Those weapons actually do exist.

They were first tested in the 40's. If the Germans had got this working before the end of the war, we would have a different landscape today.

The edit cancer = Dr Royal Rife 1950's.

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reply to post by win 52


Feel free to provide compelling evidence for your wideranging claims or everyone will assume that you're just a kid with an act.

Originally posted by NichirasuKenshin

Please don't misrepresent what they wrote there. They do not say these weapons exist; what they say is that these are the kind of weapons that WOULD be banned under the treaty if ever developed.

This part seems to have escaped you:

"

ollowing examples are illustrative of phenomena that could be caused by the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II of the Convention:

"

COULD !

and

"

when produced by military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques, would result, or could reasonably be expected to result

"

WHEN.... WOULD... COULD.....

deny ignorance.

HAARP, a Military project.....

The US. Military doesn't invest in anything that isn't used for an act of War.

Nice find. It's not part of the Geneva Convention though, it's from ENMOD.

If ever becomes possible to do those things, the agreement prohibits it. It does not say it's possible it says "could be caused", not "can be caused".

reply to post by Phage


Right.... So why not outlaw other stuff that "Could" be used for Warfare.

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin

What do you think, they advertise top secret weapons? Do you think the Japanese citizens got overwhelming evidence of the ABomb before Monday, August 6, 1945?

I was wrong as it was from the 1890's.

Tesla Oscillator

He showed this at the Columbian Exposition.

Site B

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reply to post by Hmmm101

Because this had specifically to do with environmental modification and it's unknown effects.
en.wikipedia.org...

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Maybe you are correct when you say the U.S. military does not invest in anything that is not used for war...I'm not convinced of it but I'll agree with it for now. What I must disagree with is that HAARP is used for changing WX patterns or causing earthquakes. Too much information exist to prove otherwise. HAARP is used to test how radio signals (HF) can be directed into the ionosphere and transmitted thru the ionosphere and around the globe without line of sight problems. Yes that is something the military can use to maintain contact with troops in battle without having to have antennas everywhere. Civilians can also benefit from this technology. Where is the evidence that HAARP is capable of causing earthquakes or changing WX? HAARP is not a secret project nor is it a Top Secret project. You can take a tour of the facility a couple of times a year and see what is going on. HAARP is run by the AF and Navy but it is far from a destructive device. The link is below so that you are able to read about the HAARP program.


www.haarp.alaska.edu...

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reply to post by Hmmm101


HAARP is not a military project. Visit their site one day, it's interesting stuff that has nothing to do with earthquakes.

reply to post by timewalker


No, but lots and lots of people in the US did but did kept their mouths shut, as they had good reasons to do so, an argument that can hardly be made for an alleged large-scale operation conducting ecoterrorism.

Edit: And yet, I don't deny that HAARP has military implications/future applications in the area of communications and SIGINT disruption.


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reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


Just want to make sure you don't miss this.

Nicola Tesla

a PAMIR machine can do earthquake too ???

not so much link about pamir machine
so I choose this one from voltairenet.org,
Haiti and the seismic weapon by Thierry Meyssan

I don't found video in english

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reply to post by win 52



As far as I know no one has ever reproduced the supposed earthquake machines of Tesla, every single attempt I know of was an utter failure.

If you have evidence of such a machine operating and producing repeatable results please inform us, I'd be most interested.

edited for grammar

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Im surprised people are even disputing weather mod tech at this stage tbh.
Vietnam cloud seeding comes to mind, China olympics too.

Cant remember which colonel it was who camre forward talking about such tech, if anyone knows who Im reffering to, would be a great help!