Undebunked videos or imagery?

I know there has to be some footage out there that hasn't been debunked on ATS. If you have any, I would like to see it, because I am not finding any good footage or imagery by searching on google. I really hate to ask, but is there any undebunked footage on ATS? Even easier, could someone tell me a new way to find footage besides google and youtube?

Could you help show me something that hasn't been debunked? It can be anything from aliens to ghosts. It could even be a video of God for all I care. It just needs to not be debunked. If there is something out there, that would be great.

That would be next to impossible.

You see, anyone can "debunk" a video or report etc.

Mainstream science will tend to debunk anything that doesn't fit their paradigm, sometimes for no other reason than "it doesn't fit the current paradigm".

Any videos or reports that fall into the category of "fringe" topics come pre-debunked .

Like the law innocent until proven guilty...

such videos are considered fake until proven real. Building a case for something is required...

the whole concept of ufology is a preliminary building of the case for the existance of...something (more than likely trying to direct it as either extraterrestrial crafts visiting earth or something similar).

I think what your asking for are compelling videos that have yet to be explained away easily...top leads...etc.

I still like the "weird" nasa footage that has come out throughout the year. Plenty of ice and paint chips that appeared as something of interest to start with but with a bit of critical viewing was pretty well explained away...but some footage produced continues to be very much open to debate. no smoking gun yet, but certainly something to consider.

surely people will post such enigmas on here.

I don't know about EVERY video being debunked. But you gotta know that as long as we are dealing with digital media the trump card can ALWAYS be played - regardless of the type of films, ghosts, UFOs, or whatever...

Digital artifact, compression error, spurious CCD anomaly, 'stitching' error, video banding, and the ubiquitous, 'lens flare.'

Too many possibilities in the digital world, unless the circumstances are scientifically certified, its unlikely the videos can ever be 'accepted' by the devoted debunker... especially if as a skeptic, their primary objective is not to determine the truth, but instead to provide viable alternative explanations to minutiae.

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G'day Phlynx

Here's one of the very few that keeps me wondering.....

The Nellis Base UFO video:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

By the way.....

I strongly recommend you ask the mods to put your thread in the "Aliens & UFO" forum.....a lot of people in there, will not look here & they'll miss your thread.

I think you'll get a lot of interesting responses.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 6-2-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Forgive me if someone else has mentioned this, (I admit to not reading the whole thread) but as far as I know if you would like thus far unexplained phenomena may I suggest checking out the Hoeven snow circles in Holland.
Crop circles in the snow to show the lack of footprints
No mounds of snow on the sides of the marks so it wasn't shoveled out
No ice to be found at bottom so since this was formed in freezing temperatures it is safe to assume the the snow was not melted. I have yet to hear of anyone debunking this one yet. Excellent photos