Toyota sabotage?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
I have one of the recalled Toyotas, and my solution was to vacuum the car once in a while, and pull the floormat back to where it is supposed to be, the way we did for 50 years before those fancy little hooks appeared.

My my my, how helpless and litigious we have become! Oh my god, my floormat is pushed and crumpled by my oversized Timberlines stretched around my fat foot and my belly keeps me from bending down and pulling it back, if it pushes the accelerator I may crash!

Anyone injured in one of these accidents is a victim of Natural Selection and hopefully if it doesn't kill them it will at least keep them from reproducing!

Anybody remember cars with solid steering columns, steel bumpers, no airbags, and floormats that didn't automatically pin themselves in place? No? Just me?

There is no way I am wasting hours at my Toyota Dealer so they can rig some improvised device into my car that will hold my floor mat in place when all I have to do is pull my heal back once in a while, or God Forbid, dig through a drawer and find a Safety Pin!

The original action for the floormat issue was to cut the bottom of the pedal and gain more clearance between it and the floormats. The pedal issue itself is the mechanical failure of the pedal mechanism and should be checked even if it requires suffering through an hour in the dealership waiting room...The first step is a quick inspection to see which pedal is in your vehicle, doing this will allow you to at least know if you like the majority are in the clear.

If having a pedal fail and kill you is Darwinism at work then what would you call the person who has the same thing happen when they could have had the problem checked out (for free) but didn't feel the time was worth it?

reply to post by DeepBlueSeas

If having a pedal fail and kill you is Darwinism at work then what would you call the person who has the same thing happen when they could have had the problem checked out (for free) but didn't feel the time was worth it?

Point taken!

It could be a production problem with all this drive by wire crap who knows but when I saw the reports from the cash for clunkers scam GM lost out " 1 Ford Focus No 27-28
2 Toyota Corolla No 25-30
3 Honda Civic Yes 24-42
4 Toyota Prius Yes 46
5 Toyota Camry Yes 23-34
6 Ford Escape Yes 20-32
7 Hyundai Elantra NO 26-28
8 Dodge Caliber No 22-27
9 Honda Fit No 29-31
10 Chevy Cobalt No 25-30"
money.cnn.com...
Could be corporate terrorism just throwing out there

[edit on 4-2-2010 by hillbilly4rent]

Isn't it interesting the amount of money that GM has put into advertising lately.Uncle Sam sure has deep pockets for this. Also why are the "Feds" are looking into the Prius issue, Big daddy GOV is playin hard ball now.

The basic thing for a car the gas pedal and breaks.
Not enough testing or engineering on the hybrids.

Duh, someone over looked the engineers pay raises again ha ha.
Expect some pay raises and retirement benefits that will put
some great engineers on the market.

Happened during the missile crises.
Bad gyros at liftoff.
Engineers struck immediately and came back to work with
increased benefit as a big chunk of making the new gyros
contract.*

Course this was government work and once the paperwork
was solid the government went to another company.

For Toyota there is not that option.
Cause no one wants their drawings of a car that does not work.
Bye bye corporate big shots perhaps.



*This would be cold harted engineering in the Cold War.
Imagine after WWII with free energy Tesla saucer UFO secrets
on board. It gonna be some ride for someone.



[edit on 2/6/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by hillbilly4rent


Been getting 20mpg+ for years with regular car.
Making a bid for new technology means more pay for engineers.
Which they forgot to do.
Also cost cutting on testing and development by management
might have help because more than paying engineers they dislike
engineers spending money on engineering.

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


This will be interesting what the findings will be.
Basic car engineering that every kid on the street fixing his car knows.
The reason.
Give me the money.
The corporation justifiably protects the engineers.
They leave Toyota, no company.
I figured the whole break linkage would be replaced.
No a square of metal shim say the mechanical engineering solution.
How many times have I seen that.
The hybrid solution was new software.
Wow Microsoft has entered the car age or cars are in the Microsoft age.

Toyota lawsuits are coming fast and furious Comments: 20 By CHUCK BENNETT, LIZ SADLER and JEREMY OLSHAN Last Updated: 10:12 AM, February 5, 2010 Posted: 4:17 AM, February 5, 2010 Toyota may have found a way to stop its gas pedals from sticking, but nothing will hit the brakes on the lawsuits stemming from the defect. A Queens dad driving his daughter to college last summer had to crash his Toyota into a tree to get the runaway RAV4 to stop accelerating. He, his wife and daughter suffered numerous injuries. Last week, an upstate mom's Toyota Camry careened into the back of another vehicle just days after the embattled car company announced the recall of her model. Have a Toyota horror story? E-mail it to [email protected]. TOYOTA PRESIDENT DEEPLY SORRY FOR SAFETY ISSUES The two are among the many lawsuits filed citing the cars' faulty design. "I was not going fast -- about 65 mph -- but suddenly I feel the car go fast and fast," Kong Leong, 63, told The Post, recalling his terrifying loss of control on the New York Thruway en route from Elmhurst, Queens to Buffalo. "I wanted to slow down the car but the brake was not working," said Leong, whose daughter filed suit in Queens Supreme Court. "If I stayed on the highway, maybe a lot of people would die." He swerved to the left, hit a tree, and the car caught fire. Last Friday, Sheryl Smith said her 2009 Camry accelerated uncontrollably as she drove home with her 12-year-old son in upstate Ellenville. "It just started racing, I pumped the brake and it would not decelerate and I kept pumping the brake and it would not decelerate," she said. "This lasted for two or three minutes. I had no control. It was like a runaway train." She says she had no choice but to slam into the car in front of her. Smith is joining a class-action lawsuit filed yesterday in Brooklyn federal court alleging gross negligence by Toyota. "Toyota is strictly liable for this defect in the accelerator," said lawyer Melanie Muhlstock, of Parker Waichman Alonso.

The news stand printed page shows Leong's crashed RAV4 at the site
and himself in a separate photo.
TV interviews are varied as many say the motor ran off without notice.
I imagine its something like that speed control automatic pickup
after breaking when those controls started going into cars in the 90s.

online.wsj.com...


Didnt know if this was posted yet or not,
But hers a link to a recent Honda recall as well.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by psyko45]

The company will replace the driver's side air bag inflator in the cars because they can deploy with too much pressure, causing the inflator to rupture and injure or kill the driver.

Yeah that's a bad one.
You don't want to be in a accident with a Honda anyway
So you got to be a good driver in an Accordion oops Accord.

Heard of the BMW SUV air bag needing a deployment adjustment.
Must have been a one time thing ay.