2012-final conclusion revised.

OK i've decided to revise this theory thanks to phage debunking the possibilities of geomagnetic storms and their impact on seismic activity.

So in this topic im going to focus on the fact that

A) The sun only does a flip every 740,000 years

B) During 2001 we ended the previous cycle, but the sun flipped and we started the new cycle.

C) Due to the flip we now have a LARGE hole in the magnetic feild which in previous solar storms we did not. due to the fact that the suns poles are now opposite with the earths which changes the impact on the magnetic feild and solar winds.

D) What impact would it have 'globally'- now most articles mainly point to the USA as its somehow the only country in existance, and the reality is that it is not going to effect the USA but mainly Australia.

E) That we will be exposed to higher levels of radiation which will pose Australia as the greatest risk as it alone already has a large hole in the ozone layer floating above it.

F) the risk that it poses on about 100 low orbiting satelites which have plutonium inside them, and the impact it would have on the earth if they fell out of orbit.

G) the downing of communications, radios, and satelite information

H) the fact that if the power went down we would have a natural disaster from the lack of clean drinking water, food, let alone flushing toilets.

I) the total breakdown of society and anarchy. sad reality if this happens.


now most of the information that I will be talking about I have already posted at the end of the original topic, but as it is 10 pages long and full of senseless and mindless arguing and the fact that seismic activity has been ruled out of the theory I have decided to open this topic up to talk about the impact of solar radiation, and the impact this would have on society in general.

I will also point out the fact that privatised electrical companies who own the power grid are not acting as there are numerous 'red tape issues' not just only where I live (australia) but in the USA and god knows how many other countries.

I will also be revisting the Denver Airport conspiracy and the murals on the walls.

one of which depicts 3 children in Coffins,

a hatian, a peruvian, and a jewish girl.

and the last mural which depicts all the world giving weapons to 1 german boy.
(and the fact the airport looks like a swastika)

and the fact that the USA gave adolf hitler a blank cheque to build nazi germany.

The 1994 bilderberg meeting, where the new world airport comission was founded.

the issues regarding the construction of the airport which finished at the beginning of march.

and the 'time capsule' which is to be opened in 2094.

the guidestones

and the sun dial in the denver airport. (there is not much out there regarding this)

This topic will be covering many things.

but everything will stick to as much fact, dates, and places, and try to rule out as much speculation as possible.

This topic is to look back on history, compare it with the murals, and decode them.


To discover what we have in the future we must first look to the past.




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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Alot of this information will be brought on to this new topic, revised, gone over, and I will be adding new information regarding the Denver airport.

if you are interested so far

the fact is we have never had a solar storm on this scale with the magnetic feild with a massive hole in it.

as the sun only flips every 740,000 years or so.

NOTE: the information so far was titled "2012 Theory of: Solar Storm impacts on Electrical grids."

this has detailed information which I will carry on to this topic tomorrow.

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I am currently working on inventing a new sunblock lotion that will be SPF 1,000,000,000,000,000,000. I feel once I get it finished I should be just fine during the solar storm. It's not waterproof though so I'm hoping it won't rain.

Originally posted by MissSmartypants
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I am currently working on inventing a new sunblock lotion that will be SPF 1,000,000,000,000,000,000. I feel once I get it finished I should be just fine during the solar storm. It's not waterproof though so I'm hoping it won't rain.

yep.

and you dont realise sunscreen contains cancer forming chemicals.

its better to have SPF clothing, not sunscreen.

reply to post by Apocolypto


Oh.
Second line.



Please read Warnings for one-line or short responses

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I will be making sure that anyone who posts off topic, and starts speaking about psychics or drug induced fantasies of reptillian monsters crawling all over a planet orbiting nibiru are reported.

there is no such thing as nibiru.

But are you actually working on a sunblock??

or are you just making a large joke out of the whole idea that if we were blasted with high levels of radiation it might pose a large health risk?

reply to post by Apocolypto


Ah, come on, nothing like a little humor to relieve the stress of impending doom.

So the issue about earth moving throu the galactic equator is all bs or it wont affect us at all?

The magnetic field of the Sun reverses every during every solar maximum. Roughly every eleven years.
journals.cambridge.org...

2001 was during the peak of solar cycle 23. We have just recently entered solar cycle 24 which is predicted to peak in May of 2013.
www.swpc.noaa.gov...

There is no "hole" in the magnetic field. You are probably talking about the discovery of the magnetic reconnection in 2007. This was a temporary phenomenon. It was not caused by the reversal of the Sun's magnetic field, it occurred during a "northward" turn of the solar wind, when it had the same orientation as the Earth's magnetic field.
science.nasa.gov...

The reversal of the Sun's magnetic field every eleven years (roughly) has no direct effect on Earth. It does occur during Solar maximum so it is related to increase solar activity...every eleven years.

There is no reason to expect the upcoming solar maximum (May 2013) to be any more severe than previous solar maximums. It is predicted to have a lower than average sunspot count.
www.swpc.noaa.gov...

There is no reason to expect anything except the usual pestilence, famine, plague, earthquakes, and storms (did I miss anything) which happen every year, in 2012.

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I really don't trust any specific speculation about physical events in 2012. Just like earthquakes, they and their outcomes are nearly impossible to predict.

The only thing that bugs me is the cycle of mass extinctions, for which we are due another one.

I see you haven't mentioned an earthly polar shift, with good reason, because there is absolutely nothing to fear about an earthly polar shift. They have happened countless times, and their is no correlation to species extinctions and polar shifts.

The only thing that would happen would be birds might be a little confused and fly north for the winter

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That's already happening, some Antarctic birds fly north in winter.

reply to post by Apocolypto

OK i've decided to revise this theory thanks to phage debunking the possibilities of geomagnetic storms and their impact on seismic activity.

Hold up. He didn't debunk anything. All he did show were predictions and some graphs.

No one can tell for sure what will, or will not happen, no not even Phage.

Jeez. Grow a pair.

An earthly polar shift is followed by the earth coming to a stop and spinning the other way all in 3 days it is documented in script by survives of that time.

So an earth pole shift is a big deal, bigger that an sun pole shift.

S&F. Thanks for all the info. I'm omw to check the other ATS link you provided. Can't wait until you post more on the Denver airport, guidestones etc.^^

Originally posted by Apocolypto

one of which depicts 3 children in Coffins,

a hatian, a peruvian, and a jewish girl.

and the last mural which depicts all the world giving weapons to 1 german boy.
(and the fact the airport looks like a swastika)

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A few corrections:
the dead red girl in the coffin is Native American 4-corners holding a kachina doll. The dead Jew girl is a goya Christian with a cross with a star of david concentration patch. Also the German boy is not just hammering the swords into plow shares it's a hammer hammering a sword into a sickle...

and too note this Mayan world age begins and ends and is defined with an angry sun... the next world age according to a Mayan I once worked with is the age of the Deer. The hunt is on, and the Maya Nobles did over-consume the jaguar and deer.



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Nonsense. Abject nonsense.

Unless, that is, that you can back your fantastic claims up with some evidence?

Originally posted by jsettica
An earthly polar shift is followed by the earth coming to a stop and spinning the other way all in 3 days it is documented in script by survives of that time.

So an earth pole shift is a big deal, bigger that an sun pole shift.

Um... where is your evidence for this?

Pole shifts are extremely common in geological terms; at least one every dozen thousand years or so. If your claim were true, the earth would be changing its rotational direction often enough that life would be impossible.

The earth stopping and spinning in the other direction in 3 days? Really? How does the magnetic field have anything to do with the rotation of the earth? Do you have any idea the amount of energy it would take to do this? Let alone the catastrophe it would cause? Oceans would flood over the entire world, wiping out everything!

Who are these "survivors" you refer to?

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Phage I can definately say for once, you are wrong on this one.

We as human beings have never witnessed a solar storm with a hole in the magnetic feild.

and yes this does EXIST.

the suns poles flip every 740,000 years, now first off, when the poles are pointed in the same direction as they have been for all of human civilisation
we would never have seen this.

secondly, this IS NOT THE SAME AS THE LAST 100 solar storms or so we have had in the past.

(what phage said)

There is no "hole" in the magnetic field. You are probably talking about the discovery of the magnetic reconnection in 2007. This was a temporary phenomenon. It was not caused by the reversal of the Sun's magnetic field, it occurred during a "northward" turn of the solar wind, when it had the same orientation as the Earth's magnetic field. science.nasa.gov... The reversal of the Sun's magnetic field every eleven years (roughly) has no direct effect on Earth. It does occur during Solar maximum so it is related to increase solar activity...every eleven years.

I cant beleive you just said that Hole in the earths magnetic feild

Solar particles by themselves don't cause severe space weather, but they get energized when the solar magnetic field becomes oppositely-directed to Earth's and reconnects in a different way. The energized particles then cause magnetic storms that can overload power lines with excess current, causing widespread blackouts.

While the THEMIS researchers discovered the size of the leak, they didn't know its location(s). This was discovered by Wenhui Li of the University of New Hampshire, Durham, N.H., and his team. They used a computer simulation to discover where two holes frequently develop in Earth's magnetic field, one at high latitude over the Northern hemisphere, and one at high latitude over the Southern hemisphere. The holes form over the daylit side of Earth, on the side of the magnetic shield facing the sun.

Considering this article is from 2008 phage they must have travelled back in time in order to work with what you say.

"We've found if the door is closed, the sun tears down a wall. The crack is huge – about four times wider than Earth and more then seven Earth diameters long," said Li, whose paper will be published in an upcoming article of the Journal of Geophysical Research.

everyone please disregard NASA phage is telling us all it ended in 2007.


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Now phage its my turn to rip you a new one!


When the suns poles are pointing in the opposite direction this 'tear' in the magnetic feild does not go away for the next 740,000 years until the sun's poles flip again. Or until the earth's poles shift but that is a slow and gradual process and poses no risk.

now if you have a solar storm as large as the one which is being predicted as the sun is in its quietest period for 60 years or so, and we are in the deepest solar minimum we have ever seen on record,

you would think that this might be a tell tale sign.

Now you disregarded the articles from 1918 which I posted,

you also disregarded about a stack of information from NASA.

you might have corrected me on the concept of seismic activity, but im taking the word of some of the worlds leading scientists, NOT YOU.

you are no one in the world of science, neither am I, and I do not have to take what you say as 'fact' as you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to this subject.

I've spotted about 3 flaws in what your arguement is.

your making out that I am ignoring previous solar storms? uhh NO
I recognise that we have them every 11 years its a natural occurance and nothing really significant to have a storm,

BUT

if you had a solar storm with the magnetic feild with a giant tear in front of it 3 times the size of earth...

you have a major problem.

now with the magnetic feild in place already in the past for the incident in Quebec and in 1918 we saw blackouts, electric car engines stopping completely and fried, we saw substations explode, and interfereance with radios.

that was WITH the magnetic feild in place,

please phage think twice before you open your big mouth

THE HOLE IS THERE.

THE SOLAR STORM IS NOT IMAGINARY.

so 1+1= 2

this is NOT a normal occurance, so please DO NOT mislead people on this one.

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