A Call To All Americans

Reply to post by csulli456

Illusions of evil councils at the center of everything are more sensational and it provides a convient scapegoat.....


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reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows


This is true, but when there are some truths incorporated into the deceit it can be very confusing.

Reply to post by csulli456

True. But that is why taking everything with a grain of salt, even yourself, is desirable. I find people like say Alex Jones who feeds off this stuff cloaks his BS in just enough plausibility to ensnare.


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reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows


Another good point.
Where are all the like-minded people?

reply to post by csulli456


To say that we need new leaders is always the easy way out, and is exactly the kind of change that will never happen. Even if we manage to elect in a new Congress and Presidential body, there are still positions that even WE have no control over, but are instead appointed by the president and other officials. Sometimes these people have tenures even longer than the President, for instance, supreme court justices. There is literally no possible way to get rid of a corrupt supreme court unless the judges die.

It doesn't stop there however. CIA, FBI, organizations that are linked to most of the corruption and conspiracy we face, we have no say over those organizations.

Last but not least, you need to take in the human nature of the situation and what it has become. Say we do elect new leaders are by some strange magical predominance, are pure at heart and anti-corruption. You still have to worry about the corporate sway (or control rather) that lies over America. It isn't so much that a Congressman has to accept bribes to change legislation, but if they don't they have to worry about threats and personal blackmail. We have all seen the way the system works today so this is nothing new.


So this idea of the people joining in mass and electing a brand new body that will actually care, is nothing more that part of the illusion of our system. Some people are going to continue to believe until kingdom come that their vote changes a thing when it does not.




Regardless, as I already said, the people are too far gone. The only hope peaceful change has is if the government screws up and reveals themselves, like blatantly. But even so, with a mass wake up of that caliber, depending on the event that does it in, you would be hard pressed to draw the line between peaceful and violent revolution.

Reply to post by gwydionblack

And once again we are back to a self destructive conflict for our enemies to exploit. Do you believe they will just sit back and leave us to ourselves? And what you forget is those people can be fired. Conviently. I stand by my statement there is no massive evil cabal, just greed, apathy and self interest run amok.


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reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows


Self destructive? A lot of people, for some reason, would see a full on Revolution as more destructive than it would actually be. Millions of people against a cabal of 1000 or so are pretty big odds. But if it takes too long to get underway or to get people behind, the government will use its propaganda machine to quickly demonize such a revolt and the military will be hoodwinked into acting against them.

Under normal circumstance, the military would be on our side and there would be lives lost, but no so much as to leave us weakened. You can boast all you want about how China has all these people that could swoop in and take over the US or some BS like that but really think about that. Sure they have a lot of people, but how many of those people are trained? How many of those people have ever fired a gun in their lives? 90% of Chinese have probably never seen a gun in person due to their strict laws.

So say breakdown occurs and China decides to send all 3 million of their trained military to the US, if only for arguments sake. On active duty at any given time, we have 1.5 million troops. Albeit, a lot of those are around the world so I understand with that number a disadvantage is imminent. However, also at any one given time we have 1.5 million reserves, all who have had military training and are ready to fight at a moments notice.

If that is not enough, do not forget that in the public sector, privately owned guns per person outnumber the American population. Do not also forget that a large portion of American's already know how to handle a gun at least to a proficient standard.

To put it simply, even at the downfall of our government or society, there is no single force in the world that is ready to take down the United States of America. Even with our military thinned throughout the world, the Constitution was designed with home defense in mind, and with the knowing that during the Revolution without militias and guerrilla warfare provided by the common citizen, we would not have been successful.




So let us for a moment forget about being taken down by our foreign enemies and instead let us worry about taking out our domestic enemies - our government. Those in power know that the only thing that is going to change their sway is a full on revolution and they are in defense mode right now trying to stop it before it even takes roots. Without it, you will continue living that time tired scheme you have been, only more manipulated than the day before.

What this thread is about is the Obama Administration. Republicans lost the House, lost the Senate, and lost the Presidency. They wish to take back control without going about it in a democratic manner. They wish to have a revolution. They don't have majority support, so this is all they can do. This is not American in any way, shape, or form. Majority rules. Play by the rules or get out of my country. If you want control, get a majority to vote in your leaders. Bush got in through fraud. He destroyed our country. Now you want to put Republicans back in power? Use your brains!

We must eliminate the concept of holding office on the national level as an acceptable career path.

I am quite certain that IF in the fall of this year we are able to hold fair and honest elections that there will be a "Democratic bloodbath". After that, all this talk of revolution will end. The new house will eject the Kenyan from the White House and we will begin to get back to normal.

The major undertaking after that must be to purge the bureaucracy. I have a friend who is a retired federal law enforcement officer. He told me that the career bureaucrats view elected officials up to and including the President as simply a "nuisance", a "fly in the ointment" and that the bureaucracy is totally out of control. The Federal bureaucracy is loaded to the gills with people who are dyed in the wool socialists who have little respect for the personal liberty and freedom guaranteed to us under the Constitution. They do not view themselves as being employees of the taxpaying public, but rather as herders of the sheep.

If we do not disassemble the gargantuan Federal bureaucracy and return the role of the Federal Government to the functions specifically enumerated in the Constitution, we will have wasted this brief window of opportunity to reclaim America. It is what we must do in respect both for our ancestors who fought so hard for our freedoms and for our descendants who will bear the burden of our actions now.

Reply to post by gwydionblack

Ah. Arrogance and stupidity all in one package. How efficient of you. Firstly, name for me if you please one nation in history that was able to defend it's self in any organised fashion in the face of the internal chaos an armed uprising such as you are advocating? Then you can tell me why you leave out the likely possibility they'd have allies, we aren't well loved internationally atm you know. Then you can WITH facts not knee jerk hunches and misinterpreted rhetoric of idiots misspeaking that some evil cabal controls the US. To start.


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reply to post by ivorywire


You think I`m a republican???
Next time maybe you should ask me first, and save yourself the embarrassment of appearing so foolish when assuming.

I`ll take it you haven`t put much thought into this at all.
As I was saying, a divided people are much easier manipulated.
I see no difference between republicans and democrats as a political party.

I have no desire to see republicans replace democrats or democrats with republicans.
I would like to see all career politicians retire.
I would like to see people organizing within their local communities to pick local leaders who can later compete for regional and national positions.

I would Not like to see television and other forms of mass media dictate to us, two candidates that we must choose either of for office.

My friend, don`t get caught up in the hype that is republican vs. democrat as it serves no useful purpose to choose either side.

Career politicians are career politicians.
Think about it.

reply to post by csulli456


Your insightful words resonate deeply with my heart.

IMO, it’s time to begin removing weeds from the garden, and the only effective way to remove a weed, is to eradicate its roots.

I’d like to suggest going after the roots of the Federal Reserve System, as a starting point.

I’d also like to know why the Obama administration is unevenly balanced with so many dual Israeli / American citizens. There’s something fundamentally wrong with that picture. Particularly given the current controversies Americans are facing regarding U.S. foreign and domestic policies.

reply to post by seasoul


I couldn`t agree with you more.


It is very likely that Obama may be just the same as any other politician who lies his way into office.

I really wanna like him, and I think that may be why he was chosen.
People want to like Obama for who he appears to be and everything he says he stands for.

But why all this fuss about his birth certificate?
Why would anyone sign a bill to allow unlimited corporate donations to campaigns?
Why all the czars?
Why the appointment of the Federal Reserve chairman to the US Treasury?
Why all the former lobbyists appointed, in contrast to pre-election promises?